Rossport protestors get nasty.....

I can understand the Shell to Sea group's concerns but acts like what happened recently don't help their cause. It makes them look like criminals and I can't feel sorry for them as a result.

Guy:Incognito

IWWNCU wrote: »

The two most well known Irish hydrocarbon deposits, the Corrib field and the Dunquin prospect, are collectively worth at least €4 euros. They contain around 3 cubic feet of gas and 4 barrels of oil. The gas in the Corrib belongs to Shell, Statoil and Marathon while the Dunquin prospect is totally controlled by Exxon Mobil and Providence. Ordinary Irish workers will end up buying back our oil and gas while the companies will be charged pitiful tax rates against which they can write off all exploration and construction costs.

See what I did with your info there? Thats about as credible as what you said because I am backing it up with the same amount of proof.

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

You need to do your research, The state will get 25% corporation tax on the prospect(double the standard corporation tax) and will also get VAT at the point of sale, on a sale price set by the CER.
Also any new discoveries tied back to the platform on the new licences attract 40% corporation tax.
Part of the reason for the above agreement being put in place was the lack of activity prior to the abolishment of the royalty system, due mainly to the low success rate of previous drills and the difficulty of getting accurate seismic information because of the density of chalk in the Rockall,slyne and porcupine basins leading to low or almost no activity in the late 80's early 90's.
Also people compare corrib to the north sea and coastel Norway, they are remarably different for many reasons which I wont go into here,save to say it costs between eu50m and 100m per drill in the atlantic margin(which corrib is)and 10m to 12.5m for most of the North sea/coastel Norway, or celtic sea(Ref Providence drills in Hook Head and dunmore last september)The main reasons being depth and distance, and also the inhospitible nature of the north atlantic(ask any trawlerman or Navy sailor whose done FP).

If you do have a discovery well, you then nead to do several drills to fow test,pressure test and delineate the prospect(that means figure out where the Oil/Gas/Condensate is in the area around your first drill).

A lot of the arguments thrown up by crusties and hippies have no basis in reality or understanding of the difficulty of extracting oil or gas around Irelands coast, realistically you would need a prospect the size of Al Ghawar(a Saudi discovery,the biggest oilfield in the world) to make it economically viable up until oil went over $20 dollars a barrell and that only happened after 1999.

Request to have this stricken from the record on the grounds that using an informed arguement may derail the moaners.

Cul a cnoic

leitrim lad wrote: »

well belive it or not there is an estimated 5 trillion euro worth of gas/oil located in the area between the mayo coast and scotland, and they reckon 1/3 of it is inland in the lough allen basin

so lets see the idiocy that will protest against that and come out alive,

dont ask me for links unless your prepared to show me how to put up links and pictures as i dont know how to,

bellmullet is only a trickle compared to whats in the pipe line

Got any land there Leitrim Lad ?? you might be worth a fortune yet.....

Think Phil Fitz will have to do a little rewriting..

Last night I had a pleasant dream I woke up with a smile
I dreamt that I was back again in dear old Erin’s Isle
I thought I saw Lough Allen’s banks in the valleys’ down below
it was my lovely Leitrim where the oil and gas will flow

Heraldoffreeent

The Corrib Field is estimated to contain between 800 billion cubic feet and one trillion cubic feet of gas
The monetary value of one trillion cubic feet would be $6.95 billion.
The estimated costs of developement are Eu500m ($650 million)
The "profit" on this in theory is $6.3 billion after the development costs(but not including production costs) so the Govt take is $1.575 billion from Corporation tax, and $1.563 billion in VAT.(these are todays prices, the corrib field is projected to last for 15 years, so the figures are likely to go up with the gas prices)
The porcupine basin has two possibly large prospects, Dunquin and Drumbeg which between them are thought to have 25 times the Corrib field However this has to be proved up, if it was though, the state take from it would be approx 75billion dollars.
You also need to take into account the Employment impact and the security of supply, plus the fact that if Corrib and any of the porcupine developements were successful, it would entice more exploration in the atlantic margin.
What we are faced with at the moment is an ever increasing dependence on Russian Gas, where Gazprom are attempting to buy up most of the Eurasian gas supply and we are the last link in the chain.
We need to get the gas out, and it is important that we get a stake in it,but the idea that we should develop this ourselves doesn't stand up because we don't have the expertise.
Imagine the outrage if we ploughed the two times the equivelant of the evoting machines into the sea and drilled a duster? besides where would the money come from in todays climate?
The Chavez argument doesn't stand up in Ireland, we dont really have an oil or gas businesss to nationalise, what chavez did was natinalise the in place assets and the rigs,pipelines refineries etc, we don have these, all we have is a hunch that there might be something out there, look at Providences drills last sept, the HH head prospect was a certainty according to popular belief, the two drills were dusters!!.

TheRealPONeil

Read and weep
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2007/mar/05/oilandpetrol.news

TheRealPONeil

big b wrote: »

Maybe I'd say "ah well, maybe the price will go up by the time we're finished, so more money for us"

maybe I'd say "Guarda, please do your job & stop the illegal part of these activities"

maybe I'd say "this is a bit of a pain, but hardly unique in our line of business"

What I don't think I'd say, as head of an international multi-billion business is "let's hire a few goons to trash the place, hopefully it'll make the protesters look bad"

C'mon Hagar, it's really not a feasible theory, is it?

read more and weep
http://www.essentialaction.org/shell/issues.html

OLP

http://www.corribsos.com/

ABSOLUTE LIE: That 15 masked men entered the Shell compound at Glengad with tools and chains and vandalised the area

FACT: Locals opposing Shell's controversial Corrib project removed fencing from Glengad compound at approx. 11:30pm

FACT: Gardaí left the area at around 9pm according to locals

FACT: Willie Corduff had been under a truck at the Glengad site for 16 hours, when at approximately 3:00am IRMS security wearing balaclavas moved in to forcibly remove him.

FACT: A local resident saw masked security men push Willie Corduff to the ground, kick him and hit him with large batons. They knelt on his head and twisted his arms behind his back as they beat him. His brother-in-law attempted to come to Willie's aid but was himself beaten.

FACT: After this attack, Willie Corduff was hospitalised by ambulance. He remains in hospital.

FACT: The only violence that happened in Glengad last night was carried out by Shell security

FACT: A carefully orchestrated media offensive began on Thursday 23rd April 09 to try and discredit the many local opponents to Shell's controversial project by accusing them of vandalism and violence

TheRealPONeil

leitrim lad wrote: »

at around 4.50 matt cooper had the superintendent of mayo himself on the mobile comunicator and he stated,

it was early days yet ,they didnt know who broke into the compound

,but it was 15 masked men armed with chains and steel bars,

who were also military trained, and had expierence with heavy machinery ,

according to the super he also said they damaged the peoples and the companies right to work on the site with this ambush,

and then another fella came on after the super and said that the gardai were not worried about the man who was on his death bed in castlebar hospital, they hadnt even taken a statment from him and didnt want to either,

but the man on the death bed in hospital was able to give this other fella a full ackted run down on how he was beat and he used the hospital bed as a mock shell lorry

"Both Shell and the government admit that Shell contributes to the funding of the military in the Delta region. Under the auspices of "protecting" Shell from peaceful demonstrators in the village of Umeuchem (10 miles from Ogoni), the police killed 80 people, destroyed houses and vital crops in 199017. Shell conceded it twice paid the military for going to specific villages. Although it disputes that the purpose of these excursions was to quiet dissent, each of the military missions paid for by Shell resulted in Ogoni fatalities18. The two incidents are a 1993 peaceful demonstration against the destruction of farmland to build pipelines and, later that year, a demonstration in the village of Korokoro19. Shell has also admitted purchasing weapons for the police force who guard its facilities, and there is growing suspicion that Shell funds a much greater portion of the military than previously admitted. In 1994, the military sent permanent security forces into Ogoniland, occupying the once peaceful land. This Rivers State Internal Security Task Force is suspected in the murders of 2000 people20. In a classified memo, its leader described his plans for "psychological tactics of displacement/wasting" and stated that "Shell operations are still impossible unless ruthless military operations are undertaken."21 Since the Task Force occupied Ogoniland in 1994, the Ogoni have lived under constant surveillance and threats of violence. The Nigerian military stepped up its presence in Ogoniland in January of 1997 and again in 1998 before the annual Ogoni Day celebrations"

http://www.essentialaction.org/shell/issues.html

Riamfada

OLP wrote: »

[url]
FACT: Willie Corduff had been under a truck at the Glengad site for 16 hours, when at approximately 3:00am IRMS security wearing balaclavas moved in to forcibly remove him.[/url]

Im just wondering, are Shell security locals. I assume they are, hence the baliclavis

OLP while I support anyone's right to protest, one thing I have noticed from being in the area and witnessing left wing protests is that they are amazing at taking images and information and presenting them out of context. Looks like they were out manipulated by Shell this time


... and their ex navy seal head of security whom I assuming can only be Steven Segal. Introduce a kidnapped child and some international terrorists into North Mayo and you have the makings of an amazing sraight to DVD film

Jack Sheehan

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

The Corrib Field is estimated to contain between 800 billion cubic feet and one trillion cubic feet of gas
The monetary value of one trillion cubic feet would be $6.95 billion.
The estimated costs of developement are Eu500m ($650 million)
The "profit" on this in theory is $6.3 billion after the development costs(but not including production costs) so the Govt take is $1.575 billion from Corporation tax, and $1.563 billion in VAT.(these are todays prices, the corrib field is projected to last for 15 years, so the figures are likely to go up with the gas prices)
The porcupine basin has two possibly large prospects, Dunquin and Drumbeg which between them are thought to have 25 times the Corrib field However this has to be proved up, if it was though, the state take from it would be approx 75billion dollars.
You also need to take into account the Employment impact and the security of supply, plus the fact that if Corrib and any of the porcupine developements were successful, it would entice more exploration in the atlantic margin.
What we are faced with at the moment is an ever increasing dependence on Russian Gas, where Gazprom are attempting to buy up most of the Eurasian gas supply and we are the last link in the chain.
We need to get the gas out, and it is important that we get a stake in it,but the idea that we should develop this ourselves doesn't stand up because we don't have the expertise.
Imagine the outrage if we ploughed the two times the equivelant of the evoting machines into the sea and drilled a duster? besides where would the money come from in todays climate?
The Chavez argument doesn't stand up in Ireland, we dont really have an oil or gas businesss to nationalise, what chavez did was natinalise the in place assets and the rigs,pipelines refineries etc, we don have these, all we have is a hunch that there might be something out there, look at Providences drills last sept, the HH head prospect was a certainty according to popular belief, the two drills were dusters!!.

Thanks for a sensible reply.

IWWNCU

Heraldoffreeent wrote: »

You need to do your research, The state will get 25% corporation tax on the prospect(double the standard corporation tax) and will also get VAT at the point of sale, on a sale price set by the CER.

Absolute and complete rubbish, is there any end to the amount of rubbish been spun here ?. What we are witnessing here is irishman tripping over themselves trying to defend something which would be considered a national betrayal in any other country.

Riamfada

Nationalism is the root of alot of evil.

Jack Sheehan

IWWNCU wrote: »

Absolute and complete rubbish, is there any end to the amount of rubbish been spun here ?. What we are witnessing here is irishman tripping over themselves trying to defend something which would be considered a national betrayal in any other country.

Who are we betraying the country to? How is it a betrayal? Clarification would be nice.

gman2k

Isn't it true the the Norwegian taxpayer gets more revenue from the sale of our gas than the Irish taxpayer? (due to Statoils ownership)
Thanks Bertie, thanks Ray. Great work there, ye boys really got a good deal there for us.
I wonder how many prefabs Norwegians send their kids to for schooling?

And Willie Corduff is a crusty? This is a man who went to jail to protect his rights - in many countries he would be recognised for his actions - oh yeah, He was awarded the Goldman Environmental Prize in 2007, and has met with Nancy Pelosi (Speaker of the US Congress)
Maura Harrington was jailed by a judge - whose husband was (until a few days ago a junior minister)- and who refused to let video evidence be shown of gardai assaulting protestors.
Check out this video for example Has this garda been disciplined over this? I don't think so.

bushy...

gman2k wrote: »

Check out this video for example Has this garda been disciplined over this? I don't think so.

He should get be getting a gold if they introduce the Crusty Throw to the olympics.

Seriously , he looks to be heading for the truck ... moving heavy vehicle + muppet protester = messy death eg. Ms. Corry + Caterpillars finest

Where's the Youtube clip where Maura attempts to drive her van/car at a few gardai while your at it ?

gman2k

bushy... wrote: »

He should get be getting a gold if they introduce the Crusty Throw to the olympics.

Seriously , he looks to be heading for the truck ... moving heavy vehicle + muppet protester = messy death eg. Ms. Corry + Caterpillars finest

Where's the Youtube clip where Maura attempts to drive her van/car at a few gardai while your at it ?

Why call people crusties? Is there not some other more abusive term you could call people whom are protesting against something they disagree with?:mad:
Do you think that anyone who protests is a crusty? If so, all the rights and privileges and freedoms that you now enjoy were hard earned by similar 'crusty' protesters.
Protestors all over the world have been called worse, and have paid even bigger prices...
Why don't you familiarize yourself with what's really happening out there, as opposed to listening to one sided media reports and resorting to calling people childish names? Then again, this is AH...

galwayrush

bushy... wrote: »

Where's the Youtube clip where Maura attempts to drive her van/car at a few gardai while your at it ?

She should have been a F1 driver.:D

wylo

I just read this whole thread and now I really really want to watch There Will Be Blood

bushy...

galwayrush wrote: »

She should have been a F1 driver.:D

Dunno would that have worked out , she'd probably have pulled in to form a "stop the oil slick" protest at Monaco 96




(not into/dont know much about F1 btw)

leitrim lad

gman2k wrote: »

Why call people crusties? Is there not some other more abusive term you could call people whom are protesting against something they disagree with?:mad:
Do you think that anyone who protests is a crusty? If so, all the rights and privileges and freedoms that you now enjoy were hard earned by similar 'crusty' protesters.
Protestors all over the world have been called worse, and have paid even bigger prices...
Why don't you familiarize yourself with what's really happening out there, as opposed to listening to one sided media reports and resorting to calling people childish names? Then again, this is AH...

yes but what your forgeting is that protestors else where actually had something to protest about, not just looking for publicity

galwayrush

leitrim lad wrote: »

yes but what your forgeting is that protestors else where actually had something to protest about, not just looking for publicity

Yep, they will have to change their name from:
Shell to Sea to The i am totally against whatever they do there and anyone who disagrees with us is a fashist shell loving pig.

gerrycollins

can I go back to a question that I asked earlier but has convientely been ignored.

What are current protesters(if any on site) protesting about?

It wasn't me!

I can't help but feel this thread is missing something...

Oh, yeah, this!

leitrim lad

gerrycollins wrote: »

can I go back to a question that I asked earlier but has convientely been ignored.

What are current protesters(if any on site) protesting about?

well ar this stage gerry ,they dont know

but they expect us to know even tough they dont

so that about sums up the whole protest

gerrycollins

leitrim lad wrote: »

well ar this stage gerry ,they dont know

but they expect us to know even tough they dont

so that about sums up the whole protest

i was hoping for an S2S or anti Shell to answer because that is the opnion I have myself.

galwayrush

gerrycollins wrote: »

can I go back to a question that I asked earlier but has convientely been ignored.

What are current protesters(if any on site) protesting about?

Depends on the week, apparently at the moment it's police brutality and the Irish Government not receiving 100% of the money for the gas.:rolleyes:

gerrycollins

galwayrush wrote: »

Depends on the week, apparently at the moment it's police brutality and the Irish Government not receiving 100% of the money for the gas.:rolleyes:

ha ha I know

i refer mostly to the physical protest if any currently going on?

There's too many idiots in ireland who attach themselves to an issue for the sake of making something of their lives.. go find something else to care about.

if it were owned by an irish businessman, ye'd be bítching like ye do about the property develepors. if it were owned by the government, ye'd be bítching that the government was stealing our money.

i don't give a shíte who owns the oil. it doesn't affect me and if the protesters lives weren't so pathetic, it wouldn't affect them either.

vandalising as a form of protest? fuking uneducated hippy ****.

chosen1

OLP wrote: »

http://www.corribsos.com/

ABSOLUTE LIE: That 15 masked men entered the Shell compound at Glengad with tools and chains and vandalised the area

FACT: Locals opposing Shell's controversial Corrib project removed fencing from Glengad compound at approx. 11:30pm

FACT: Gardaí left the area at around 9pm according to locals

FACT: Willie Corduff had been under a truck at the Glengad site for 16 hours, when at approximately 3:00am IRMS security wearing balaclavas moved in to forcibly remove him.

FACT: A local resident saw masked security men push Willie Corduff to the ground, kick him and hit him with large batons. They knelt on his head and twisted his arms behind his back as they beat him. His brother-in-law attempted to come to Willie's aid but was himself beaten.

FACT: After this attack, Willie Corduff was hospitalised by ambulance. He remains in hospital.

FACT: The only violence that happened in Glengad last night was carried out by Shell security

FACT: A carefully orchestrated media offensive began on Thursday 23rd April 09 to try and discredit the many local opponents to Shell's controversial project by accusing them of vandalism and violence

Some of those FACTs looking fairly sketchy now. Todays Sunday Independent says that the Gardai aren't looking for anyone in relation to Willie Corduffs "assault". Seems he was taken to had paramedics called out to him from Castlebar but when they examined him he had no signs of injury. Strange for a man who said he was beaten to within an inch of his life. Also CCTV footage of the area showed nothing of this assault.

Then again as you say, Shell could have sneakilly healed him of all his injuries and photoshopped the CCTV to make it look like nothing happened.

IWWNCU

chosen1 wrote: »

Some of those FACTs looking fairly sketchy now. Todays Sunday Independent says that the Gardai aren't looking for anyone in relation to Willie Corduffs "assault". Seems he was taken to had paramedics called out to him from Castlebar but when they examined him he had no signs of injury. Strange for a man who said he was beaten to within an inch of his life. Also CCTV footage of the area showed nothing of this assault.

Then again as you say, Shell could have sneakilly healed him of all his injuries and photoshopped the CCTV to make it look like nothing happened.

That's reassuring.... and if he had received some serious injuries we could fully expect the Sunday Indo to print full coulour photos of these injuries with the appropriate scripted outrage - RIGHT ?

galwayrush

Seriously, anyone who spends 16 hours lying under someone's truck needs special help.:rolleyes:

IWWNCU

galwayrush wrote: »

Seriously, anyone who spends 16 hours lying under someone's truck needs special help.:rolleyes:

I'm sure he'd fully agree with you Galwayrush

galwayrush

IWWNCU wrote: »

I'm sure he'd fully agree with you Galwayrush

That is the very important first step.:D

bushy...

galwayrush wrote: »

Seriously, anyone who spends 16 hours lying under someone's truck needs special help.:rolleyes:

" Any chance you'd put the greasegun to the UJs while you're under it"

chosen1

IWWNCU wrote: »

That's reassuring.... and if he had received some serious injuries we could fully expect the Sunday Indo to print full coulour photos of these injuries with the appropriate scripted outrage - RIGHT ?

The point is he DID NOT sustain these injuries.

Heraldoffreeent

IWWNCU wrote: »

Absolute and complete rubbish, is there any end to the amount of rubbish been spun here ?. What we are witnessing here is irishman tripping over themselves trying to defend something which would be considered a national betrayal in any other country.

Prove me wrong then.......

b28

this sounds like a visit to the 1950s

bushy...

Since they could have killed someone with the excavator they took from the site , technology like this is needed :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylwJCyLxBYw&NR=1

b28

who cares, small minded people like this should be ignored and rejected from an advancing society!

S.I.R

Fozzie Bear wrote: »

soap dodgers

im stealing that,

in protest over...


a truck...


HIDE !


*smack*

*bang*

*boom*

the_syco

chosen1 wrote: »

Seems he was taken to had paramedics called out to him from Castlebar but when they examined him he had no signs of injury.

[conspiracy]Super stealth ninja's bet him up using tactics that leave noooo mark, yet nearly kill him [/conspiracy]

IWWNCU wrote: »

Absolute and complete rubbish, is there any end to the amount of rubbish been spun here ?. What we are witnessing here is irishman tripping over themselves trying to defend something which would be considered a national betrayal in any other country.

A betrayal for what? That we didn't have the expertise to drill for oil in the 80's? That we didn't randomly drill for oil costing millions of dollars at a time when thousands were unemployed?

Eric Cartman

I, Eric Cartman

Officially Declare Shell2Sea As A Domestic Terrorist Organisation. This organisation has been known to use guerrilla retardation tactics in the attempt to stop a large amount of jobs being created and lower gas prices all because of their pure ignorance. It is my personal belief that if all these vandals were to be murdered the average IQ of the west of Ireland would increase by atleast 50 points instantly. Any Sympathisers of Shell2Sea should be legally classed as mentally retarded and put in homes for the clinically insane. I urge all boardsies and members of the public to ignore the barbaric inhumane behavior of possibly the greatest assembly of retards since peta.

Sincerley Yours
Somebody with atleast a quarter of a brain (which is a quarter more than Shell2Sea will ever have)

Eric Cartman

Reason #987462223232 that the shell2sea protestors are time wasting w@nkers :

From their site , their supporters (All opposing w@nkers with no valid opinion):

# Sinn Fein
# The Green Party
# The Socialist Party
# The Socialist Workers Party
# Leo Moran (The Sawdoctors)
# Eamon Dunphy

That combined with the fact that there is nobody on their supporters list with any kind of credible background in engineering, science or the enviroment.

We elected our politicians to do a job and whether you voted for them or not the enviroment minister is probably the most qualified person listed on their website and happens to be IN FAVOUR of the pipeline

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/republicans-to-blame-for-shell-plant-breakin-1720297.html

Republicans to blame for Shell plant break-in

IRA dissidents using gas pipeline protest as a recruiting ground

Dissident republicans linked to the groups which carried out the murders of two soldiers and a policeman in the North last month were responsible for the break-in and criminal damage of the Shell gas plant in Mayo last week.

The group of around 18 men wearing black balaclavas threatened and struck one of the two security guards on duty with an iron bar before causing damage costing thousands of euro in what Garda sources described as a "military-style" operation.

They used bolt cutters to break into the compound before commandeering a mechanical digger and destroying fencing and the entrance gates. A delivery lorry was also heavily vandalised at the scene.

When additional security staff arrived they group withdrew at around 12.30am. A cache of improvised weapons; metal bars, a sledgehammer and wooden fence posts with nails, were recovered later.

Gardai disputed the claims by a local protest leader, Willie Corduff, that he was injured in a separate incident after he had been hiding under the trailer of a lorry at the plant.

Gardai said Mr Corduff had complained of head and chest pains necessitating an ambulance and two paramedics to travel out from Castlebar. They examined and found no injuries, according to gardai.

....

Ronan Wilson

This is all so ridiculous. Willie Corduff was not beaten by security. Shell to Sea are great marketers, but there is film to show their lies. Go to YouTube and search for Willie Corduff. See his 'beating' in 3 parts.

I know, if I spoke to a guard the way Willie is... I'd expect a beating, but he didn't get one at all. The other way round if you ask me. And this on top of that looney shouting she wished more guards were run into a wall. And the other guy calling the guard with the English accent a Black and Tan. There are savages in Rossport, but there's no evidence they work for Shell.

Oh, and another thing. The people of Rossport broke into the compound and destroyed it, not Shell themselves. How anyone can believe that amazes me. It's a wonder no one was killed, driving diggers at fences in the dark. And if someone is killed, it will be Shell's fault will it?

Seriously. Don't take my word for it guys. Look at the film yourself on YouTube. Search for Willie Corduff... and witness the strangest beating ever filmed. And if you're against Shell and Corrib... fine. But it should not mean you support these looneys. You'd be mad to, and someone will get killed if they're encouraged.

Jip

And what really puts the nail in the coffin of his claims he got a beaten is Indymedia, they're reporting there's no basis for his claims or any visible marks. He then claims there's no marks because the people who attacked him knew where to hit him so that no marks are left. Did ye ever hear the likes.

road_high

There was a story on RTE news there on this. Something about Shell moving part of a pipeline. One of the Shell to Sea loopers was going on about how a pipeline could still explode and "give a fair rap" or something to that effect :rolleyes:.

At least there was a guy from a group called "Pro-Mayo Gas" (or something) pointing out that 1,000 jobs are being provided currently by the project. If was a local I would be delighted as there would be good jobs available in this beautiful but desolete part of the country.

Sleipnir

mfitzy wrote: »

There was a story on RTE news there on this. Something about Shell moving part of a pipeline. One of the Shell to Sea loopers was going on about how a pipeline could still explode and "give a fair rap" or something to that effect :rolleyes:.

This is the sort of gas pipe explosion they'd like to avoid

http://www.cpmv.org/image/gas1_full.jpg

Ciaran500

Sleipnir wrote: »

This is the sort of gas pipe explosion they'd like to avoid

http://www.cpmv.org/image/gas1_full.jpg

And how close is this gas line to houses?

Sleipnir

Ciaran500 wrote: »

And how close is this gas line to houses?

I'm not defending Shell To Sea, I'm just responding to mFitzy's post about a "fair rap:rolleyes:" i.e.
I was showing that one of these explosions would indeed be a "fair rap"

I wouldn't care if the houses of some of these "protestors" were actually in the pipe.