Summer transfer talk and rumours

invincibleirish

I'm sure Barca could shoehorn Fabregas in alright if they wanted to, after all football is all about evolution and it would be a nice rebuke to Perez & Madrid hogging all the recent headlines.

mike65

Looks like Barca are also in for Villa! They are talking with Valencia and that the decision will be the players to make.

Headshot

mike65 wrote: »

Looks like Barca are also in for Villa! They are talking with Valencia and that the decision will be the players to make.

link ?

mike65

Sorry it was mentioned on RTE after the game.

edit http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=international_feed/09/06/14/SOCCER_Spa-Barcelona_Villa.html

curry-muff

Headshot wrote: »

link ?

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5379316,00.html

Thats where i saw it anyway

Headshot

so it might mean eto'o is going

interesting from a utd point of view

curry-muff

Yeah etoo is a player i wouldnt mind seeing at united, but barca have also claimed that they dont want to get rid of etoo, surely he is too good to sit on a clubs bench though, bearing in mind tevez has been on our bench all season

therecklessone

Eto'o in the PL would scare the fúck out of me, he would score goals for fun.

Mr Alan

i have serious doubts if eto'o would cut it in the PL to be honest.

therecklessone

Mr Alan wrote: »

i have serious doubts if eto'o would cut it in the PL to be honest.

You're claimed.

PHB

Am I wrong in saying that after Madrid buy up everyone there seems to be a lack of targets out there?

After Ribery, Silva, Villa as main targets, who seem to be taken up by Madrid and Barca, it seems that there's no genuine talent out there available for reasonable prices. Whats the story with Roma, are they not losing players due to missing out on CL?

therecklessone

PHB wrote: »

Am I wrong in saying that after Madrid buy up everyone there seems to be a lack of targets out there?

At the rate they're buying players there'll be a shortage of team buses in Spain in anyways.

Headshot

Mr Alan wrote: »

i have serious doubts if eto'o would cut it in the PL to be honest.

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PHB wrote: »

Whats the story with Roma, are they not losing players due to missing out on CL?

heard they could be loosing a few players ,a few stories about de Rossi etc

Mr Alan

well, he misses a lot of chances. He'd come across less of these chances in the PL than he does in La Liga and he also seems to struggle when he comes up against better more physical defences. I'm not sure like, maybe i'm wrong, just why i was a little worried when we were linked wit him the other day and in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if he did run amock, but i think he'd have to up his game.

curry-muff

To be fair he came up against the most physical defence in the premiership in the champions league final and it didnt stop him putting the ball into our net :(

Headshot

tevez representatives will start talks with manchester utd,city,liverpool and chelsea tomorrow


source ssn

I reckon city are the favourites,chelsea might be the dark horse

Mr Alan

reckon United will sign him myself. Would love it if we did, but don't think we will.

curry-muff

I either want him to stay or go to city, if he goes to pool ill cry :pac::pac:

joe123

To be honest I didnt want Tevez at the start of the summer but now hes looking like our best bet of a really big signing. Could see the money from city and Chelsea swaying him though. Or just staying with United.

We have mascherano though...old buddy,old pal! so who knows!

EDIT: Just seen Barca are in talks with Villa now....I thought hed signed for Madrid??

curry-muff

joe123 wrote: »

To be honest I didnt want Tevez at the start of the summer but now hes looking like our best bet of a really big signing. Could see the money from city and Chelsea swaying him though. Or just staying with United.

We have mascherano though...old buddy,old pal! so who knows!

EDIT: Just seen Barca are in talks with Villa now....I thought hed signed for Madrid??

Apparently Valencia have left it up to villa himself to decide where he goes:

http://football365.com/story/0,17033,8652_5379316,00.html

Smegball

Mr Alan wrote: »

well, he misses a lot of chances. He'd come across less of these chances in the PL than he does in La Liga and he also seems to struggle when he comes up against better more physical defences. I'm not sure like, maybe i'm wrong, just why i was a little worried when we were linked wit him the other day and in the past. I wouldn't be surprised if he did run amock, but i think he'd have to up his game.

I think Etoo's sheer pace alone would scare the ****e out of most PL defences.

leninbenjamin

Smegball wrote: »

I think Etoo's sheer pace alone would scare the ****e out of most PL defences.

not really. plenty of fast players in the prem.

I'd agree with the argument that he could struggle. He won't have Xavi or Iniesta for the near constant supply of through-balls, or Messi to create space for him. Not to mention the chances he will get will be much scrappier. It'll be a culture shock to him.

mike65

Tevez "finished with Utd" Citeh to fill his boots

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/14/carlos-tevez-manchester-united-sir-alex-ferguson

Chelsea duo to Inter

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/15/carvalho-deco-mourinho-chelsea-inter-transfer

Wolves land Serbian inhternational Nenad Milijas

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/15/wolves-nenad-milijas-transfer-serbia

SlickRic

deco and carvalho to inter?

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5381455,00.html

crouch to Man City according to Manchester Evening News.

i also don't get all these rumours of Richard Dunne to Sunderland. why would he? unless he's bee stripped of the captaincy and has been told he's leaving?

Xavi6

SlickRic wrote: »

i also don't get all these rumours of Richard Dunne to Sunderland. why would he? unless he's bee stripped of the captaincy and has been told he's leaving?

Unconfirmed (i.e. probably bollox) rumours that Dunne will be allowed to leave as Barry has been promised the captaincy.

ctrl-alt-delete

Xavi6 wrote: »

Unconfirmed (i.e. probably bollox) rumours that Dunne will be allowed to leave as Barry has been promised the captaincy.

I know you were not his biggest fan at times, and rightly so last season, but do you want to see him go?

It depends on who they get to replace ,him obviously, or do you think he still has a place in the team, as captain?

Anymore rumours about Santa Cruz? i think Blackburn might have missed the boat in terms of a big pay day for him last January, considering he still isn't fit and he has no form. It still should be about 15 million if he does move on.

As a Blackburn fan id like to see him leave, if it meant we had to hang on to Derbyshire because of it. Rumours are that his move to Olympiakos is on hold until Santa Cruz' future is ironed out.

MementoMori

Report on who's for sale from Real and what they cost

Robben €36.55m
Wesley Sneijder €27m
Huntelaar €20m
Diarra €20m
Van Nistelrooy €18m
Drenthe €14m
van der Vaart €13m
Heinze €11.78m
Saviola Free

Potentially VDV looks like the greatest bargain there, if he is sold for what about what he cost. Will be interesting to see how much Real do get for those they manage to sell. Can see them taking a hefty loss on Van Nistrelrooy, Heinze and Drenthe, especially if they are looking for wages similar to what they are reported to be on below.

Arjen Robben and Ruud van Nistelrooy made available by Real Madrid
• Spanish club has to sell to keep buying galácticos
• Renewed bid for Valencia's David Villa likely
Sid Lowe in Madrid
The Guardian, Tuesday 16 June 2009

Real Madrid have contacted several *Premier League clubs with a list of nine players they are keen to offload as they desperately seek to recover some of the £150m they spent on Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka. Arjen Robben and Ruud van Nistelrooy are among those for sale.

A fax has been sent from the Bernabéu that includes the names of the club's Dutch players, as well as the former Manchester United full-back Gabriel Heinze. Robben and Van Nistelrooy are joined by their compatriots Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, Wesley Sneijder, Rafael van der Vaart and Royston Drenthe. The defensive midfielder Mahamadou Diarra and the striker Javier Saviola have also been made available.

Madrid concluded two huge transfers in four days for Kaka and Ronaldo but their new president, Florentino Pérez, is determined to continue spending. He wants to make a renewed bid for David Villa after negotiations broke down at the last minute with Valencia, whose president, Manuel Llorente, is furious at Madrid's approach. Valencia want €45m (£38m) for the striker but Madrid have so far refused to meet the valuation.

That late twist appeared to offer Chelsea and United a glimmer of hope in their *pursuit of the Spain international although a Barcelona director has admitted they, too, are in talks with Villa.

Pérez has announced that he had to "do in one year what we would normally do in three" and he is determined to sign a left-back, central defender and central midfielder. Madrid also want to sign a striker and will turn their attention to Diego Forlán should they fail to sign Villa. Although Madrid have appeared to boast limitless resources over the past week, the Spanish club are aware that they have to sell in order to continue buying.

Madrid have set themselves a target of €100m of incoming transfer fees to help fund a total outlay that could reach €300m. That would represent a significant loss on players who cost them more than €160m but the figure still appears optimistic.

The shift in the euro means that a €10m player will now cost an English club about £8.5m, when a little over a year ago the figure was closer to £6m. The vast majority of the players have also seen their value drop at Madrid. Van Nistelrooy is one of the few to have enhanced his reputation but he has been injured for eight months and will be 33 in two weeks' time. He and Huntelaar are among Tottenham's targets.

Although Robben has expressed his desire to stay at the Bernabéu, Madrid are especially determined to sell him because they consider him one of the few players who can command a huge fee, alongside Sneijder, who signed for €25.5m from Ajax in 2007. Robben is not helped by his status as a marquee signing and electoral promise of the former president Ramón Calderón – the only promise he delivered on. Privately, however, Madrid doubt their chances of recovering the €36m he cost from Chelsea.

Madrid remain determined to sell players, even if they do not recuperate their original fees, and would also consider loans. Together, Sneijder, Drenthe, Robben and Van Nistelrooy account for almost €10m a year in wages, while Diarra is on €2.8m, Saviola €2.5m and Heinze €2m.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/16/real-madrid-player-clearout

PHB

You could do worse than take a chance on Robben.

mike65

Pool have been linked with Saviola a bit.

ShooterSF

One of the stranger one's but Chelsea have nearly completed the signing of Daniel Sturridge from Man City (Daily Express)

leninbenjamin

ShooterSF wrote: »

One of the stranger one's but Chelsea have nearly completed the signing of Daniel Sturridge from Man City (Daily Express)

would this not be motivated by the home grown quota thingy?

Dozen Wicked Words

PHB wrote: »

You could do worse than take a chance on Robben.

If you have plenty of space in the treatment room and don't mind paying a player huge wages for 15 - 20 games a season (during which he will have at least one niggle per game). And be prepared to get about two thirds through the season before he starts thinking he should be playing at a "bigger club".

Pro. F

PHB wrote: »

You could do worse than take a chance on Robben.

He is class when he's fit. If the price wasn't huge i suppose.
Also there seems to be very few top class wingers around who are willing to play in england, he might be alright with that.
His attitude seems to be a problem, i wonder how bad it actually is?

How has M. Diarra got on this season anybody?

Pro. F

ShooterSF wrote: »

One of the stranger one's but Chelsea have nearly completed the signing of Daniel Sturridge from Man City (Daily Express)

That lad seems to be more concerned with wages than game time imo. He would do better to get himself playing regularly at a smaller club.

Spud83

Pro. F wrote: »

How has M. Diarra got on this season anybody?

I believe he was injured for the second half of the season. That is why the bought the other Diarra in Jan.

SlickRic

sagna interested in madrid for 20m.

it's the sun now so...

Xavi6

ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »

I know you were not his biggest fan at times, and rightly so last season, but do you want to see him go?

Not unless we get someone who is significantly better, i.e. not at the expense of the likes of Kolo Toure. He still has plenty to offer to club at 29/30 years of age once he has some sort of consistency about him.

It depends on who they get to replace ,him obviously, or do you think he still has a place in the team, as captain?

The captaincy complicates things. If he wasn't the skipper he could fight for his place like everyone but cause of it he pretty much has to play every game. Not sure if we can afford that in order to progress.

Anymore rumours about Santa Cruz? i think Blackburn might have missed the boat in terms of a big pay day for him last January, considering he still isn't fit and he has no form. It still should be about 15 million if he does move on.

As a Blackburn fan id like to see him leave, if it meant we had to hang on to Derbyshire because of it. Rumours are that his move to Olympiakos is on hold until Santa Cruz' future is ironed out.

Plenty of RSC rumours doing the rounds but it's hard to know what's going on really. A lot of City fans don't want him but personally I'd be happy once he passes a very thorough medical. He would add a new dimension to our goal-shy attack.

ShooterSF wrote: »

One of the stranger one's but Chelsea have nearly completed the signing of Daniel Sturridge from Man City (Daily Express)

Pfft, I posted that about 2 weeks ago! :pac:

UnitedIrishman

PHB wrote: »

You could do worse than take a chance on Robben.

I'd happily take Robben and Sneijder on the cheap. Badly need a midfield playmaker at United and a winger (albeit an injury prone one).

Xavi6

Rumours that Nikola Zigic will sign for us on a one year loan deal. Not happy about that considering he has a shite touch for a big man.

Headshot

breaking news everton bid 5m for sheffield utd full back kyle naughton

Eire-Dearg

Sticking there hand in to see if they pull out another Jagielka or Lescott.

JPA

Stephen Kelly has joined Fulham from Birmingham City.
Nice low key one.

JPA

JPA wrote: »

Stephen Kelly has joined Fulham from Birmingham City.
Nice low key one.

Surprised he got a move to another prem team

Mr.Nice Guy

I read that Kelly wanted assurances from Stoke that he'd get first team opportunities and when he didn't get them he decided to leave. I think he'll find it even tougher to get into Fulham's first team though. I hope the move works out well for him.

~Rebel~

LittleNipper wrote: »

Surprised he got a move to another prem team

he was pretty decent in the prem with Brum last time i guess though, only outfield player to play every minute of every game for any prem team.

orourkeda

Stephen Kelly is a good player. I hope he does well.

mink_man

orourkeda wrote: »

Stephen Kelly is a good player. I hope he does well.

ya, decent player. i'd play him week in-week out in most teams in the PL apart from the top 6!

JPA

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I read that Kelly wanted assurances from Stoke that he'd get first team opportunities and when he didn't get them he decided to leave. I think he'll find it even tougher to get into Fulham's first team though. I hope the move works out well for him.

Well he's got another solid unspectacular RB in Aaron Hughes in front of him now. He probably just wanted out of the cesspit.

eoin99

JPA wrote: »

Well he's got another solid unspectacular RB in Aaron Hughes in front of him now. He probably just wanted out of the cesspit.

Don't forget John Paintsil too:p

SlickRic

well done stephen kelly.

it can only be good for the irish team as long as he's playing week in week out, which isn't guaranteed of course..