JSA / JSB Waiting times Survey

Recon

You won't get anything for the time you'll be back in college but I think you'll get paid from the time you applied up to the time you go back to college.

zero19

I thought if you're going to college you're not eligible for JSA?

Recon

zero19 wrote: »

I thought if you're going to college you're not eligible for JSA?

you're not, but if you were working, then lost your job you can claim the dole. If you go back to college you have to sign off.

CR 7

Recon wrote: »

You won't get anything for the time you'll be back in college

Yeah, I knew that, but I'll be signing off probably before even getting any payment, that won't affect anything, will it?

Recon

Park Ji Sung wrote: »

Yeah, I knew that, but I'll be signing off probably before even getting any payment, that won't affect anything, will it?

I'm pretty sure it won't. If they find you're should be entitled to payment you'll get it up to the start date of your college.

lilminx

I am blessed.

Got a place on a course with very short notice and could only get time off last week to go to SWO to move from Illness Benefit to JS (course entitles me to keep JS)

So last week got the form and was told to go back in with it filled out last thursday but I couldn't until today. Was told today it would be 10 to 12 weeks before it was sorted, but after a long and quite logical discussion was able to get everything sorted then and there should hear from them next Monday re: payment date!

also factor in that i'm starting a new job in a month anyway, it was only to cover 6 weeks of payment so I think they just felt it better to get it all sorted at once besides getting confused when I'm back off JS.

Anyways.. happy days for me.

This was in Mallow btw

oneillMan999

Wexford town area

Applied last december

still havent seen a deciding officer!!

thats over 8 months now..

can anyone beat that!!
:mad::mad::mad:

Rojo25

Dublin 7, applied JA 3 months ago and still waiting

A V A

oneillMan999 wrote: »

Wexford town area

Applied last december

still havent seen a deciding officer!!

thats over 8 months now..

can anyone beat that!!
:mad::mad::mad:

dude i hope you get it soon hang in there , i know you need money now but when you get it back dated . . . good times

Edgedinblue

still waiting on JSA. applied in may, had means test on 18th june. went to CWO 2 weeks ago so hopefully the SW will get their butts in gear now that they can see i need money!!

tommy21

tommy21 wrote: »

Applied for JSA after using up my JSB on Wednesday 16th June - saw an inspector but presume I could be waiting as long as the rest of ye for a deciding officer? JayTi - what happens if you go back to work before a decision is made? Do you still get payment for the months you have been waiting (assuming it is granted)?

Got home from work (casual job seekers allowance is what i was waiting on) to find simply a cheque backdated to the 16th June! So from application to payment took about 11 weeks. Can't believe it and best thing is I can come off it very soon anyway as my hours will be increasing again in a number of weeks!



Cork office, Hanover St. by the way

jujuB

oneillMan999 wrote: »

Wexford town area

Applied last december

still havent seen a deciding officer!!

thats over 8 months now..

can anyone beat that!!
:mad::mad::mad:

I was waiting 6 months (Co Wexford Area) I was so stuck and so much in trouble with bills etc, It is absolute joke how long it took. The only thing is you will absolutely be back paid for the last 8 months. Try hang in there, easier said than done but it will all be okay when it FINALLY comes through. I thankfully have casual work at the moment (one day a week for the time being) but as I had to switch from Jobseekers Allowance to Jobseekers Benefit, I havent seen a payment in 3 weeks. Just because I might have one day a weeks work (€50) they seem to think I can survive on that for the last 3 weeks!! Total joke!! :mad:

oneillMan999

jujuB wrote: »

I was waiting 6 months (Co Wexford Area) I was so stuck and so much in trouble with bills etc, It is absolute joke how long it took. The only thing is you will absolutely be back paid for the last 8 months. Try hang in there, easier said than done but it will all be okay when it FINALLY comes through. I thankfully have casual work at the moment (one day a week for the time being) but as I had to switch from Jobseekers Allowance to Jobseekers Benefit, I havent seen a payment in 3 weeks. Just because I might have one day a weeks work (€50) they seem to think I can survive on that for the last 3 weeks!! Total joke!! :mad:

yea i know ill get back paid an all, but by the time i finally see a means test officer and everything is sorted, it could be close to Xmas before i get paid, which will be a ONE year wait!! what a joke! :mad:

Anyway, im goin in next week and demanding to see someone about this and get it sorted ASAP!
Luckily, im not overly stuck for the money ( i play poker for a living now which pays the bills ) but its the principle of the thing, theres people out there living from day to day while these morons sit on their a$$es scratching their heads!
Wanna help solve the unemployment crisis Mr. government?....HIRE SOME MORE SOCIAL WORKERS! :rolleyes:

popzmaster

I waited seven weeks for benefit that was in bray not means tested or anything, which isnt as bad as some stories ive heard

When i was switching to JA though the staff in the SWO lost my bank statements and i had to wait 3 weeks for payment when its usually seamless...

A V A

they did that to me aswell , they lost all the forms they photo copied of my mothers statements becuase im now living back with her , they lost the forms when i had the interview in january and just decided to ring me in april to say they dont have all the forms ( my mams forms i gave which they copied ) it tooks them that long to that . . .really fcuking annoyed me , i dont know how they lost them or didnt have them when your one sopied every one !!! and then got my payment in july ??? stupid all together

fryup

so i take it from reading this thread that they (SW) are delaying on purpose so as to save money?

or piss people off in the hope that they'd emigrate or in a migrants case > go back home??

is that the vibe??

notsobusy

I have been waiting since Oct last year. Have been getting payments from the CWO since April. This morning I found that the SWO had closed my claim because I wasn't available for interview when the inspector came out. My mum, my brother and my sister were also at home at the time given and no one ever came to the door looking for me.

I appealed the decision 6 weeks ago and have heard nothing. So went back into SWO and they have opened a new claim for me. I can do nothing about the back pay for the original claim until the appeal has been heard. Shower of b***ards.

Podman

notsobusy wrote: »

I have been waiting since Oct last year. Have been getting payments from the CWO since April. This morning I found that the SWO had closed my claim because I wasn't available for interview when the inspector came out. My mum, my brother and my sister were also at home at the time given and no one ever came to the door looking for me.

I appealed the decision 6 weeks ago and have heard nothing. So went back into SWO and they have opened a new claim for me. I can do nothing about the back pay for the original claim until the appeal has been heard. Shower of b***ards.

That happened to me in Finglas, it turned out that the inspector called to the wrong house. (Story)

the GALL

I applied for the dole after finishing a VTOS course and was told that because the course was for 2 years I would have to apply for the assistance. So I filled out all the forms, in the hope that I would be intitled to something (married man with 2 kids and a wife who travels over a 1000 miles a week to and from work, this situation is doing nothing for my head) so I had applied for a community welfare scheme, basically you get the dole and they pay you the same for 19.5hrs work a week. after gettin the form to fill out there was a bit for the dole office to fill in. I brought it to them, the girl had a quick look at it and without talkin to anyone she told me I was not entitled to any money.
Two days later I had a letter from the deciding officer confirming what the clerk had already told me. How is a dole office clerk able to make a decision and judgement that quick, when all these people are waiting months? when It's in the dole office favour the decision is made at the drop of a hat, whats that all about??
I F**kin hate this country, and all the bull**** that goes with it.

Bluetonic

the GALL wrote: »

I applied for the dole after finishing a VTOS course and was told that because the course was for 2 years I would have to apply for the assistance. So I filled out all the forms, in the hope that I would be intitled to something (married man with 2 kids and a wife who travels over a 1000 miles a week to and from work, this situation is doing nothing for my head) so I had applied for a community welfare scheme, basically you get the dole and they pay you the same for 19.5hrs work a week. after gettin the form to fill out there was a bit for the dole office to fill in. I brought it to them, the girl had a quick look at it and without talkin to anyone she told me I was not entitled to any money.
Two days later I had a letter from the deciding officer confirming what the clerk had already told me. How is a dole office clerk able to make a decision and judgement that quick, when all these people are waiting months? when It's in the dole office favour the decision is made at the drop of a hat, whats that all about??
I F**kin hate this country, and all the bull**** that goes with it.

What does your wife earn? I suspect this is how the clerk was able to tell you were entitled to nothing. Simple enough process really.

the GALL

What does your wife earn? I suspect this is how the clerk was able to tell you were entitled to nothing. Simple enough process really.

Thats nobodys business....the point im makeing is the girl in the dole office was able to pick up my papers inform me there and then what I wasn't entitled to and have correspondance sent down which arrived aftertwo days day informing me in writing what she had already said. Yet there people waiting months to get an interview and when they do the interviewee calls to the wrong house. All a load of Bull....and remember folks if it wasn't for people like us on the dole the people in the dole office would be on the other side of the counter

MarkR

Jobseekers Benefit - Six weeks and counting in Clare. They reckon that the wait it about 8 weeks.

Recon

the GALL wrote: »

What does your wife earn? I suspect this is how the clerk was able to tell you were entitled to nothing. Simple enough process really.

Thats nobodys business....the point im makeing is the girl in the dole office was able to pick up my papers inform me there and then what I wasn't entitled to and have correspondance sent down which arrived aftertwo days day informing me in writing what she had already said. Yet there people waiting months to get an interview and when they do the interviewee calls to the wrong house. All a load of Bull....and remember folks if it wasn't for people like us on the dole the people in the dole office would be on the other side of the counter

The whole point of that is your wife's income. If it's above a certain amount you mightn't be entitled to anything. The same way that a mature student that moved home is ineligible to get a grand if their parents income is above the limit.

fryup

So can anyone from the social welfare give a reason for these delays??

is it just designed to piss people off.

mclaughlng

Bluetonic wrote: »

What does your wife earn? I suspect this is how the clerk was able to tell you were entitled to nothing. Simple enough process really.

Im in the same boat, had my means test last week after waiting 9 weeks, was told it would be tight because of what the wife earns, but they are asking to see bank statements from us both, and the wifes pay slips, is this normal practice ? ive never been on the dole before so its all new to me.
In Donegal.

Boxoffrogs

oneillMan999 wrote: »

Wexford town area

Applied last december

still havent seen a deciding officer!!

thats over 8 months now..

can anyone beat that!!
:mad::mad::mad:

Yeah, Dublin, Clondalkin, a Jobseekers Benefit claim that goes back to April 2008, still with the Deciding Officer, it seems when you move back here from another country they have no clue what to do....

cee_jay

fryup wrote: »

So can anyone from the social welfare give a reason for these delays??

is it just designed to piss people off.

No its a lack of staff in the middle of a recession, a lot more people claiming but no extra staff to do the work.

That's your second time asking more or less the same question trying to rile people up. This is not a forum for criticising Government Departments and keep on topic.

fryup

fryup wrote: »

So can anyone from the social welfare give a reason for these delays??

is it just designed to piss people off.

cAr0l wrote: »

No its a lack of staff in the middle of a recession, a lot more people claiming but no extra staff to do the work.

That's your second time asking more or less the same question trying to rile people up. This is not a forum for criticising Government Departments and keep on topic.

it wasn't answered the first time hence posting twice

"rile people up" give me a break:rolleyes:

Bluetonic

the GALL wrote: »

What does your wife earn? I suspect this is how the clerk was able to tell you were entitled to nothing. Simple enough process really.

Thats nobodys business....the point im makeing is the girl in the dole office was able to pick up my papers inform me there and then what I wasn't entitled to and have correspondance sent down which arrived aftertwo days day informing me in writing what she had already said. Yet there people waiting months to get an interview and when they do the interviewee calls to the wrong house. All a load of Bull....and remember folks if it wasn't for people like us on the dole the people in the dole office would be on the other side of the counter

Your wife earnings is the business of the social welfare. As I said already the chances are she earns too much for you too get an allowance and this was how the helpful clerk was able to disregard your claim at the counter.

If this is the case fair play to the clerk for the efficient processing, it can't be easy having to deal with people who are too lazy or perhaps incoherent to understand the claims process and then blame everyone else.

Edgedinblue

4 months later, i'm still waiting on JSA. asked last week in the reception part of the SW apparently my claim was approved in july, but got sent back to the deciding officer again. noone could tell me why just that it was "pending". what a pile of Cnunts! thank god for CWO!! speaking of which can anyone tell me why i'm getting 182.30 off the CWO? it was my bday last week and i was getting 100 off the cwo before that. i thought id only be getting 150?

donmeister

Applied for JSA 3 weeks ago, had the means test last Friday, and my 'signing on' date is on the 28th, next Tuesday, im confused, will this mean I will receive payment before then?

Clementine

I was really impressed by how quick my experience signing on was this time round.

Last year I signed on for 4 weeks- had JA interview/means test in early October 2009- and then luckily got a job. I didn't receive any payment until Jan 2010.

Contract ended unfortunately and was expecting a huge delay again even though this time I would qualify for JB (at last!), and it was approved on the day, I was told there would be money in the post office for me the same day next week. And there was!

That's SWO Bishop Square, Dublin 2. Very impressed- and relieved!

IMC042

I've been waiting now for 14 weeks. Did the means test 5 weeks ago and still heard nothing.

I signed off on Thursday because I have decided to go back to college. Will I still be assessed and receive all the back dated money even though I went back to college ??

raveni

IMC042 wrote: »

I've been waiting now for 14 weeks. Did the means test 5 weeks ago and still heard nothing.

I signed off on Thursday because I have decided to go back to college. Will I still be assessed and receive all the back dated money even though I went back to college ??

Yes, if they find that you were eligble for the JSA while signing on, you should get backpayments once the claim has been processed.

diddledum

diddledum wrote: »

Yeah, Dublin, Clondalkin, a Jobseekers Benefit claim that goes back to April 2008, still with the Deciding Officer, it seems when you move back here from another country they have no clue what to do....

I find this hard to believe. There must be really exceptional circumstances if it this is true.

Is this really true?? You said you moved back from another country, is it waiting HRC or what? If it is, its hardly waiting since 2.5 years.

Boxoffrogs

Deleted User wrote: »

I find this hard to believe. There must be really exceptional circumstances if it this is true.

Is this really true?? You said you moved back from another country, is it waiting HRC or what? If it is, its hardly waiting since 2.5 years.

This is 100% true, although I do understand why you find it hard to believe. I have been through the mill with the Social Welfare. When they did finally get around to getting in touch with the UK about my contributions (about 6 months ago now), they actually had the cheek to tell me that it could take the UK several months to respond. On hearing this, I rang the office in Newcastle (Benton) who told me it would only take a matter of days to turn around this form.

I have made yet another complaint, can't count the amount of letters I have sent and visits I have made. I always get the same excuses. In my last complaint, I requested a copy of my file which I am almost certain has gone missing.

I will post on here once it's all resolved but I'm honestly not holding out much hope that it will be any day soon.

AnnyHallsal

Ah now, that's absolutely ridiculous.

doniemac

waiting since 16th June. they have had all the documentation since the end of June. My office is Navan Road, Dublin. You can make a complaint on the social welfare website. I'm told since that it will take 15 days (then it was 15 working days) to deal with the complaint.

update: and 10 minutes after I wrote the above, I get a call saying that they'll backdate me straight into the bank account. They're obviously looking up this thread

Edgedinblue

18 weeks and still counting. All i'm getting is "your claim is pending" ughhhhhhhhh!

IMC042

Been waiting 16 weeks now, rang them today and the woman who answered me said she was going to do all she could to get it processed ASAP! She sounded like she meant it, i hope she did!

donmeister

Went in today to see whats the story with my claim, the social worker told me dismissively it would be another 2 months at least, they are so back-dated they are only sorting out June applicants now. FML.

zzantara

Kilbarrack Office:
Finished JSB first weeek August, had an interview with an inspector to go over my application for JSA at the end of August, got approval early October,not bad seeing that they are under pressure ??

wolfnight

I applied on Aug 10th.

Forms all submitted, checked and verified Aug 13th.

I received a letter regarding habitually resident in the state and a request for more info on 16th of September.


Submitted on 17th.

Recived 21st

Habitual status verbally confermation on the 29th, I asked what happens now, told back to the line and they were currently Working on early July applications.

Today (6th of October) I went into the welfare and was told at reception that the claim was in need of a means test interview (I will pass it, I have no money at all to my name, living on someones sofa and was denied from CWO due to living on the sofa) but not told when it would be and not recived any letter from them.


8 Weeks wait so far.

Dun Leary office.

Laducar

made claim for jsb last friday 1st october , first payment due 8th october.

sligo office

mike5

I apply since 18th may 10 jsa no decision yet i complaint,
got email that they are
waiting on habitual residency.
NAVAN office

MasterKZG

JSB approved 2 days being unemployed

12 months later
JSA approval after 6 days of applying.:):):)

Thank god for the hard working officers in our local office

Boxoffrogs

diddledum wrote: »

This is 100% true, although I do understand why you find it hard to believe. I have been through the mill with the Social Welfare. When they did finally get around to getting in touch with the UK about my contributions (about 6 months ago now), they actually had the cheek to tell me that it could take the UK several months to respond. On hearing this, I rang the office in Newcastle (Benton) who told me it would only take a matter of days to turn around this form.

I have made yet another complaint, can't count the amount of letters I have sent and visits I have made. I always get the same excuses. In my last complaint, I requested a copy of my file which I am almost certain has gone missing.

I will post on here once it's all resolved but I'm honestly not holding out much hope that it will be any day soon.

Actually, I really didn't have too much longer to wait, got a call today to say it has been sorted and I will have a cheque in the next couple of weeks (fairly substantial sum involved and arriving just when I need it).

Maybe they are reading this thread:p

IMC042

Called them last week and was promised my application would be sorted out ASAP. Rang today and the woman said passively "Na, nothing done with it".

People are annoying!!

Darlughda

I have little sympathy for people on Jobseekers' benefit if they have tucks of cash in savings.

If you really analysed how much of your taxes go on unemployed people you might be surprised at how little goes on supporting unemployed people.

However, for people who are trying to support themselves on €196 a week, not just temporarily, but permanently, have any of you any idea how hard that is?

Yet for people with billions of thousands in the bank, they can claim Jobssekers benefit for 9 months. How fair is that?

Bluetonic

Darlughda wrote: »

How fair is that?

It's an insurance fund you pay into, you do realise that?