Shame on Tesco - Removing Irish Brands from its Stores

paddy smith

with tesco one of irelands biggest employer i wouldnt agree with some of the posts calling for a bycot .

ardmacha

with tesco one of irelands biggest employer i wouldnt agree with some of the posts calling for a bycot

If people shop in one place rather than another the total employment in retail remains the same. That said there Tesco seem to be reducing prices which is not a reason to boycott them.

paddy smith

ardmacha wrote: »

If people shop in one place rather than another the total employment in retail remains the same. That said there Tesco seem to be reducing prices which is not a reason to boycott them.

tesco are one of the better ones who treat their staff and costomers very well,
i will always support them.

taram

finisklin wrote: »

One thing saying it and another preaching it.....it will be a blood bath when it happens.....they will probably pick key value items like milk and bread and slash them in direct comparision with Lidl and Aldi....thats when it will get bitter and twisted.

When they started that big 'omg we're the biggest discounter' they used larder items like jam and biscuits, but the lidl jam was 2 cent dearer but was 65% fruit, the Tesco one was 40%, lidl ice-cream was pricer but was proper ice-cream, tesco's was whey and vegetable fat etc, it wasn't really like for like at all so pointless really but tesco pointed it out in every media source for about 2 weeks. :mad:

Jip

Paddy, just wait for the posts now accusing you of being a Tesco employee ! Apparently you can't say anything good about a company unless you've been posting here years.

ardmacha

tesco are one of the better ones who treat their staff and costomers very well,

As a customer I do not think that Tesco treat their customers well. I can think of only one or two instances where I was treated as a valued customer, and many many cases where I treated with contempt and as an inconvenience to staff.

Our man in Havana

ardmacha wrote: »

As a customer I do not think that Tesco treat their customers well. I can think of only one or two instances where I was treated as a valued customer, and many many cases where I treated with contempt and as an inconvenience to staff.

I would agree there 100%.

I do not like being forced to use self service tills when you have a lot of shopping. Just because staff are too lazy to open another till.

I rarely shop there anymore unless it is an item that cannot be obtained anywhere else easily. I do also agree that Tesco is one of the dearer retailers in the country and even in NI there are very expensive when compared to Asda etc.

getz

Bond-007 wrote: »

I would agree there 100%.

I do not like being forced to use self service tills when you have a lot of shopping. Just because staff are too lazy to open another till.

I rarely shop there anymore unless it is an item that cannot be obtained anywhere else easily. I do also agree that Tesco is one of the dearer retailers in the country and even in NI there are very expensive when compared to Asda etc.

the idea of using self sevice till is so the company can cut back on staff its not that the staff are lazy-you are correct that asda are cheeper,my son who is a manager with tesco, shops in morrisons[his wife is a manager with morrisons so she gets a discount] or asda [my wife works for asda ]

paddy smith

Jip wrote: »

Paddy, just wait for the posts now accusing you of being a Tesco employee ! Apparently you can't say anything good about a company unless you've been posting here years.

im not a tesco employee But i do have 2 neice working there and they are very well looked after.

Bob Z

darc wrote: »

I still disagree with the OP. Tesco are removing a range of brands from the shelves and replacing with lower price goods.

They are not specifically removing Irish brands but there will probably be Irish brands amonst all the brands being removed.

It is also currently only specific to border counties & one cork store mainly to compete with NI & also to test the reaction where NI is of no consequence.

Basically they are saying they are losing loads of business to NI due to price differences and due to big price differences people have loast brand loyalty, therefore they will give southern shoppers that same choice as NI at the same prices and see if it goes down well.

The OP is suggesting that just Irish brands are being withdrawn when it is more a general reconfiguration of the store & if certain Irish /International brands cannot compete on price then they're out.

Yes they havent removed irish goods but they are leaving it up to the customer to choose. They are very shrewd. Once the irish goods arent been bought anymore they will then say that the customer is choosing the intenational brands.

I cant blame tesco. Prices in Ireland are far too high. This could be awake up call to the goverment and/or the retail industry

1huge1

Bob Z wrote: »

Yes they havent removed irish goods but they are leaving it up to the customer to choose. They are very shrewd. Once the irish goods arent been bought anymore they will then say that the customer is choosing the intenational brands.

I cant blame tesco. Prices in Ireland are far too high. This could be awake up call to the goverment and/or the retail industry

Exactly, in a indirect way they are doing the country a favour, this will lead to the irish producer to reduce prices and regain some of our lost competitiveness.

foggy_lad

Bob Z wrote: »

Yes they havent removed irish goods but they are leaving it up to the customer to choose. They are very shrewd. Once the irish goods arent been bought anymore they will then say that the customer is choosing the intenational brands.

I cant blame tesco. Prices in Ireland are far too high. This could be awake up call to the goverment and/or the retail industry

please correct me if im way off here but from what i took from their recent announcements about their border store they will be purchasing the exact same irish goods in the main, but instead of buying them from their normal irish wholesalers they will be buying them a lot cheaper from uk and europen wholesalers

K-9

Bob Z wrote: »

Yes they havent removed irish goods but they are leaving it up to the customer to choose. They are very shrewd. Once the irish goods arent been bought anymore they will then say that the customer is choosing the intenational brands.

I cant blame tesco. Prices in Ireland are far too high. This could be awake up call to the goverment and/or the retail industry

Which is why they are only doing it in border stores first. If it isn't successful you can be sure it will not be rolled out nationwide.

If people are that fond of Irish products they'll shop elsewhere or contine to buy the "Irish" goods and leave the others on the shelves. That, or shop up North to suport an United Ireland!

Our man in Havana

That, or shop up North to suport an United Ireland!

Ha ha. Support the United Kingdom more like.

calex71

Was in the new Drogheda store yesterday.

To say it was wedged would be an understatement. There where some real bargains to be had, nearly had a heart attack when i saw what i was paying for a particular brand of tooth paste here in Dublin and what it was priced at there in Drogheda... over €2 in the difference, razor blades €6 cheaper.

The kicker though is that what i would class as essentials - meat, fruit veg and dairy had little of no reduction with the exception of tesco milk, and is the same rubbish quality it always is in tesco.

Booze was cheaper in part too, 6x500ml cans of budweiser where 7.50 :eek: pitty i dont drink that wee wee

Jip

calex71 wrote: »

with the exception of tesco milk, and is the same rubbish quality it always is in tesco.

Eh, you do know Tesco milk comes from Glanbia and is the same stuff as some of their branded produce ?

calex71

Jip wrote: »

Eh, you do know Tesco milk comes from Glanbia and is the same stuff as some of their branded produce ?

I didnt mean to infer that the tesco milk was bad quality, i mean the meat and veg was.

Im blue in the face trying to explain to house mates the mike comes from same place lol amazing how a different label will effect peoples attitude to a product aint it.

Jip

Ah I see. Not really a fruit and veg man but can't comment on that. I think the meat from over the counter is fine though and some of the prepacked stuff is quite good too. I usually go through every pack though looking for the best looking one and insuring it's Irish, I tend to stick to beef though so can't comment on pork or anything else. Superquinns stuff is quite good though but does come at a premium but sure that's to be expected.

Our man in Havana

Jip wrote: »

Eh, you do know Tesco milk comes from Glanbia and is the same stuff as some of their branded produce ?

Still tastes horrible and I would never touch Glanbia products with a 50ft pole.

brian ireland

scruff murphy wrote: »

Today 21:44With all this talk of Tesco etc, did you all realise that you can still maintain the table you have become accustomed to very easily by shopping around. Heres an instance;
say your kids are used to shopbought filled rolls every day for lunch, but the purse strings are tight, go to Lidl, where, for 74c, you can buy a partbaked 4 pack of rolls, and a delecious packaged ham called Dulano for around 3euro, and its a generous amount of ham, I might add. Get up 10 mins earlier every morning, bung the rolls in the oven for 8 mins, and your kids have gorgeous fresh rolls with ham for a fraction ofthe cost and calories. Just thought Id share that with some of the nasties who sent me private messages telling me I was a moan!

:D:D:D:D:D

how did you do that box thing?

talkingclock

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sorry for getting OT!

brian ireland

talkingclock wrote: »

this?



sorry for getting OT!

Its kinda funky

escobar

The fact is that Tesco already charge more than both Superquinn and Dunnes on all branded goods. This is an indisputable fact .
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...breaking45.htm[/I]

I already did dispute it.


Touche...I bow to your superior intellect;)

escobar

Jip wrote: »

Someones back peddaling. If you said the grass was green I would definately have to check.

I'm afraid you are not repeating yourself and was you have posted saying it a repeat is not in fact something you already said, to use your phrase you thought was a killer blow, that's is an indusputable fact.

Try spot the difference





Now you whinge and whinge and say you're stuck with the dearest supermarket in Ireland. How the hell are you, are you packed into the back of a blacked out van everytime someone spots you leave the house with shopping bags and shipped off to Tescos ? Despite some people thinking this may be true you aren't, just go elsewhere. If you still don't after all your posts on this thread, you're a fool.



They plan to depending on how the border area goes, when is another thing.



Because they hadn't restructured their supply chain at that time. People were willing to but items at the prices they were at at the time, same in every other store in the country. Along came the recession and a good exchange rate on sterling so people headed north so the company had to do something about it. Why would any company out to make a profit for it's shareholders not maximise that ?

The question you should be asking is now why aren't the rest of the supermarkets following suit ?

Do people simply not read news articles or listen to radio interviews ?




Oh, so you're the one with the details of the Irish profits ? I thought someone must have them considering the amount of people telling us to look at their Irish profits considering Tesco don't release them, nor Dunnes nor Lidl nor Aldi etc etc




Mmm, the food still has to get to the distribution centre and from there to the stores and the company still had to be run by somebody, what do you think, they're going to close head office and run it from the UK ? Think before you post.

Aaah Jip I assume this is the thread you were referring to.


Not backpedaling at all, it is indusputable, the link has always been there.

. ''Tesco was the most expensive and the groceries had a price tag of €296.08.''

''When it comes to own brand goods, the gap between Dunnes and Tesco and Aldi and Lidl has narrowed significantly, the survey has found''

I've always put the link to prove my comments and tesco was the dearest with Dunnes the cheapest and LPidl/Aldi cheapest for branded goods.

To answer your question, Unfortunately I have decided to vote with my feet and not go to Tesco, the reason is explained in the other thread.....


What about my other catchphrase ''every little helps''Tesco's profit margin, you're welcome to use that too.


p.s - details of the Irish profits are out now and tesco make 50% more profit here than elsewhere by overcharging, yet the only way they could bring down prices was to source from abroad....mmmmm

Jip

Mmmmm, yet again you seemed to have lost your original statement that Tesco were more expensive on all branded products. The links you put in contradicted your statement as I originally pointed out. You're like a broken record at this stage, repeating over and over but occasionally skipping adding or missing something that played first time around.


And explain how Tesco make 50% more profit here than anywhere else ? Or is this just another embelished statement by yourself ? You're confusing a profit with profit margin which is a big difference.

For the record, it is rumoured that their profit margin was 9.3 percent last year with a profit of €248 million. Do you think that no other Tesco region in the world made more that €165 million ?

Dunnes profit margin is also rumoured to be around 9 percent, therefore by your logic they're also over charging ? Do you also have a problem with this ? Can I assume that you'll equally vote with your feet by also refusing to shop there ?

wmpdd3

escobar wrote: »

Aaah Jip I assume this is the thread you were referring to.


Not backpedaling at all, it is indusputable, the link has always been there.

. ''Tesco was the most expensive and the groceries had a price tag of €296.08.''

''When it comes to own brand goods, the gap between Dunnes and Tesco and Aldi and Lidl has narrowed significantly, the survey has found''

I've always put the link to prove my comments and tesco was the dearest with Dunnes the cheapest and LPidl/Aldi cheapest for branded goods.

To answer your question, Unfortunately I have decided to vote with my feet and not go to Tesco, the reason is explained in the other thread.....


What about my other catchphrase ''every little helps''Tesco's profit margin, you're welcome to use that too.


p.s - details of the Irish profits are out now and tesco make 50% more profit here than elsewhere by overcharging, yet the only way they could bring down prices was to source from abroad....mmmmm

Well when Tesco do bring prices down and other store have to follow to survive, let's see how they do it.

rubadub

escobar wrote: »

Not backpedaling at all, it is indusputable, the link has always been there.

. ''Tesco was the most expensive and the groceries had a price tag of €296.08.''

Once again....
the most important bit is not that price tag, it is this

the difference between the cheapest and dearest basket was €3.60 or 1.2 per cent

It is indisputable that the difference is NEGLIGIBLE. When doing stats and experiments in college anything with such a low difference would be thrown out as inconclusive, since the difference is minute. If they did the survey the next week it could have easily swayed the other way.

The REAL story is not that tesco are very expensive like you are trying to infer, the real story is there is very little difference between the supermarkets.

K-9

rubadub wrote: »

Once again....
the most important bit is not that price tag, it is this


It is indisputable that the difference is NEGLIGIBLE. When doing stats and experiments in college anything with such a low difference would be thrown out as inconclusive, since the difference is minute. If they did the survey the next week it could have easily swayed the other way.

The REAL story is not that tesco are very expensive like you are trying to infer, the real story is there is very little difference between the supermarkets.

Was in Tesco yesterday and noticed some big price drops, eg.€4.85 for a 200 gramme jar of Nescafe, about a 20% drop. Sausages and bacon was the sections I noticed not much Irish produce, no Clonakilty sausages :eek: plus I didn't notice Lyons or Barrys tea at a quick glance. Seemed to have loads of different brands of tea. I think many Irish people are brand loyal/snobs so it will be interesting to see do people buy the new brands or stick to the known brands.

GerardKeating

K-9 wrote: »

Was in Tesco yesterday and noticed some big price drops, eg.€4.85 for a 200 gramme jar of Nescafe, about a 20% drop. Sausages and bacon was the sections I noticed not much Irish produce, no Clonakilty sausages :eek: plus I didn't notice Lyons or Barrys tea at a quick glance. Seemed to have loads of different brands of tea. I think many Irish people are brand loyal/snobs so it will be interesting to see do people buy the new brands or stick to the known brands.

This famed irish "Brand Loyalist" does not stop droves of people traveling "Up North" to ASDA/Sainsbury and the like where most likley they will not find these brands.

And Dunnes in Galway have all these "funny" english tea brands, and no-one complains of it, but when Tesco stock them....

mcwhirter

GerardKeating wrote: »

This famed irish "Brand Loyalist" does not stop droves of people traveling "Up North" to ASDA/Sainsbury and the like where most likley they will not find these brands.

And Dunnes in Galway have all these "funny" english tead brands, and no-one complains of it, but when Tesco stock them....

Dunnes 'because we are irish' :eek:

lzbones

I have noticed there are discount warehouses popping up. (example cheepcheep.ie). I think the recession is a good thing for Ireland, it will shake up the market and create new opportunities.

Hagar

This thread has just opened on another Forum.

Tesco have replaced Irish Potatoes with British Potatoes. What next?

RTE News tonight.

dh0661

Hagar wrote: »

Tesco have replaced Irish Potatoes with British Potatoes. What next?

Whatever about Barry's tea or Galtee rashers and other Irish brands. We Irish love our floury spuds.

AFAIK the Irish and Scottish are the only countries in the world that like their potatoes to be "floury".

IMO their fruit & veg. is over priced cr-p anyway and the rest of their fresh foods are not any better.

rubadub

Hagar wrote: »

Tesco have replaced Irish Potatoes with British Potatoes. What next?

Probably what ever else we cannot competetively produce here. My own pineapple farm never took off, tesco refused to pay the €15 per pineapple I had to charge them to cover the costs of my operation. Now them buy them from Brazil, bloody racist Irish hating bastards. If they gave people the choice I am sure the patriots would have bought my pineapples, they are really stupid not to stock them.

ejmaztec

It seems Tesco doesn't like Rolls Royce driving drunks either, prejudiced bastards!:mad:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6330687.ece


Man drives Rolls-Royce through Tesco window after being refused alcohol



A man drove a Rolls-Royce through the window of a Tesco supermarket yesterday after staff at the store refused to sell him alcohol.

Six woman were injured as the glass windows shattered and shelves came crashing down. Two check-out counters were demolished.

Witnesses said that the man had come into the store in Andover, Hampshire, at around 4.30pm to buy alcohol but had been turned away because he was already drunk.

Minutes later, he drove at the store front in his luxury silver saloon. Although he failed to break through on his first attempt, he reversed, revved and came back for a second try.

One Tesco worker described yesterday how the man had reversed a long way back to get a “good, clear run”. She said that she thought a bomb had gone off. “People were running for their lives, scattering in all directions,” she said. “Everyone was screaming. Check-out girls were shocked and crying. It was terrible.”

Patrick Ford, 49, a store customer, said that it was “like a tidal wave of shelving” coming towards him. “I heard a huge crash and shattering glass and the shelving started collapsing around me,” he added.

It is believed that the man, thought to run a chauffeur company, remained sitting in his car until police and paramedics arrived.

Last night, a 50-year-old man had been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and drink-driving.

Jip

Hagar wrote: »

Tesco have replaced Irish Potatoes with British Potatoes. What next?

They haven't actually replaced Irish with British potatoes have they, have they jsut not given more shelf space to British ones ? As I said in one of those other threads I always look for the Irish ones and often have to go through British and Israeli I think they are potatoes in my local Superquinn.

dobberdob

I do all my shopping in SUPERQUINN. Recently I saw a NCA National Consumer Agency survey and a large trolley of shopping (almost €300) in Superquinn is actually the same price as Dunnes Stores and cheaper than Tesco and you can get the nicest meat and bread there too. Log onto nca.ie if you don't believe me.

tbh

dobberdob wrote: »

I do all my shopping in SUPERQUINN. Recently I saw a NCA National Consumer Agency survey and a large trolley of shopping (almost €300) in Superquinn is actually the same price as Dunnes Stores and cheaper than Tesco and you can get the nicest meat and bread there too. Log onto nca.ie if you don't believe me.

Hi dobberdob, I've some genuine questions


*do you guys get paid per post, or are you paid a flat rate?

*How do you "prove" to superquinn that you are actively shilling them - do you provide links to your posts?

*How many brands would you have on the go at any one time?

*finally, have you ever set foot in a superquinn store (or been in Ireland) in your life?

tbh

tbh wrote: »

Hi dobberdob, I've some genuine questions


*do you guys get paid per post, or are you paid a flat rate?

*How do you "prove" to superquinn that you are actively shilling them - do you provide links to your posts?

*How many brands would you have on the go at any one time?

*finally, have you ever set foot in a superquinn store in your life?

oh yeah, one other thing, are you employed by an agency, or do superquinn employ you directly?

mike65

I was in SQ for the first time in months last week - after months in Lidl it was like Vegas but the prices were like Paris.

Our man in Havana

mike65 wrote: »

I was in SQ for the first time in months last week - after months in Lidl it was like Vegas but the prices were like Paris.

That is a fairly apt description Mike.

rubadub

dobberdob wrote: »

Log onto nca.ie if you don't believe me.

I checked it out and it was just as I expected SERIOUSLY FLAWED.

Some other poster repeatedly kept going on about this survey and how tescos were shown to be the dearest on branded goods, while I pointed out the 1.2% difference was really proving there is no real difference, 1.2% being a negligible amount in statistical terms.

You can see the results here
http://www.nca.ie/eng/Research_Zone/Reports/Price-survey-Feb-2009.html

I mentioned before that tesco have got lots of "own brands", e.g they have about 7-8 types of fresh cheese & tomato pizzas last time I was in. While many other stores have only one "own brand" for many products.

I expect they did the same with dunnes too, who also have a few ranges.

Dunnes & tescos beans are listed as 42cent, but I know they both have tins around 22-25c. Lidl are 25c and aldi are 34c so both appear cheaper but are really not.

Tesco bleach 1.19 for 750ml, but I have tesco value bleach which was something like 39c or 49c for a litre. WTF people buy tesco "mid range" brand bleach or sugar over the "value range" one always puzzles me.

Almost every thing listed have cheaper "value" brands available in dunnes & tescos.

White Pan Sliced
Brown Pan Sliced
Bundys Seeded 6pk
Cream Crackers
Mineral Water Still
Orange Juice (from concentrate)
Orange Juice 100% Fresh squeezed
Baby Wipes
Fresh Milk
Low Fat Milk
Margherita/ Cheese & Tomato Pizza
Peas Garden
Cat Food - Tin
Cornflakes
Wheat Biscuits/Bisks
Baked Beans
Bolognese Sauce
Spaghetti
Fine Cut Orange Marmalade
Jam Strawberry/Raspberry/Blkcurrant
Self Raising Flour
Bleach

Also as I also suspected they IGNORED offers, dunno about anybody else but I seek out offers. One one page Dunnes were "cheapest" at a basket of branded stuff at €83.25, while tesco were €83.92
BUT they adjusted the figures!!! Really the tesco basket contained a bottle of wine at €8.74 but they listed the "normal" price of €12.49. Dunnes also had an offer on toilet roll, €2.25 instead of €3.93.

So in fact the tesco basket REALLY costed €80.17 and the dunnes one was €81.57

Still feck all difference but if ignoring offers (which is stupid) they should also ignore reductions. Everybody knows it is often common practise to increase prices before a reduction so they appear to be even cheaper.

Our man in Havana

Tesco bleach 1.19 for 750ml, but I have tesco value bleach which was something like 39c or 49c for a litre. WTF people buy tesco "mid range" brand bleach or sugar over the "value range" one always puzzles me.

I think people have a psychological block on buying the value range thinking they are not as good as the dearer products. With things like sugar and bleach there is no difference.

K-9

Bond-007 wrote: »

I think people have a psychological block on buying the value range thinking they are not as good as the dearer products. With things like sugar and bleach there is no difference.

Sugar and some other things I'd agree on but some of the cheap bleaches are very watery! A Domestos etc. will last longer. Similar to Fairy Liquid to own brand liquid.

snubbleste

Following on from the OP 2 months ago, I have noticed far more UK brands and Tesco range stuff on the shelves with reduced space for irish brands. Examples include packaged cold meats and tea

However prices have come down on products as a result of the 'border stores' now stretching down to galway

rubadub

K-9 wrote: »

Sugar and some other things I'd agree on but some of the cheap bleaches are very watery! A Domestos etc. will last longer.

Tesco value bleach is "thin", i.e. pure liquid with no perfumes. This is what I actually want for sterilization and it is difficult to even find thin branded bleaches. Tesco also do a thick bleach, they often have several "own brands" of particular products.

K-9 wrote: »

Similar to Fairy Liquid to own brand liquid.

The cheapo tesco washing up liquid is dirt cheap and comes in a really big bottle. I expect there is far more washes per euro in it, the problem with fairy is many people still treat it like all the others and stick the same squirt in regardless. Many have dishwashers and only wash the odd pot or pan or glass in the sink and use WAY more than necessary.

snubbleste wrote: »

Following on from the OP 2 months ago, I have noticed far more UK brands and Tesco range stuff on the shelves with reduced space for irish brands. Examples include packaged cold meats and tea

Have any other companies gone bust though? Walshes foods (spiceburgers and microwave burgers etc) are now gone, they used to have a huge presence in my local tesco. I was surprised they went bust as they always seemed to sell well.

TequilaMockingBird

In Sligo, Odlum's flour has been ousted to make space for English flour. :eek:

It's a sad day.

ejmaztec

TequilaMockingBird wrote: »

In Sligo, Odlum's flour has been ousted to make space for English flour. :eek:

It's a sad day.

You could always complain to Tesco that you can't buy Odlums.

Moosh10

I've just stopped shopping there. Sure you can't find anything. Helmans mayonnaise anyone. No not in Tesco. Sure you'd be lucky to find a can of Batchelors Beans.
The OP was right. lots of Irish companies will be really hurt by this Tesco move.

rameire

Moosh10 wrote: »

I've just stopped shopping there. Sure you can't find anything. Helmans mayonnaise anyone. No not in Tesco. Sure you'd be lucky to find a can of Batchelors Beans.
The OP was right. lots of Irish companies will be really hurt by this Tesco move.

so the batchelors beans and helmans mayonnaise i have, and bought in tesco, magically wasnt there, and isnt in my house.
i see, i must be going mad.