Unofficial Bus Strike...

dub_commuter

Sensible_User wrote: »

Yes, but all you guys calling for a private service, YOU WILL BE SORRY. You will get a awful service like those in Scotland with their awful rail service, awful bus service.

PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS RUN BY DUBLIN BUS FOR THE PEOPLE.
PRVIATE TRANSPORT FOR SHAREHOLDERS.

Hate to break it to you, but having been to Scotland recently what you say couldn't be further from the truth.

MOH

jaybird wrote: »

As for some of the other complaints. If you talk to the driver while the bus is moving, and he talks back, even to tell you he can't talk to you, he can be disciplined. There are plain clothes inspectors roaming the buses to watch them, as well as a camera pointed at the driver. In order to speak to you, he has to pull over in a safe place, but then you would complain that he is stopping and you'll be late.

Doesn't seem stop stop drivers yapping away to their mates on occasion. Including the guy I had a while ago who was deep in conversation from the time I got on the bus until I got off, so much so that he failed to hear the bell, and couldn't see me (or those behind me) standing in the gangway because the view in his mirror was blocked by his chum. Had to yell at him as we passed the stop without slowing down and he pulled in about 20 yards past the stop.

Oh and in case anyone is interested in the actual issue at all, the drivers offered to go back to work this afternoon, with spare (junior) drivers doing the new bill while its agrees, and management turned them down. I'm sure you can make that the drivers fault as well though.

So after 3 days of causing the public grief the drivers expect to be able to dictate terms before going back to work? :rolleyes:

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panda100 wrote: »

Just got a text from one of the drivers involved in the strike and apparently its now over.

And not before time

panda100 wrote: »

Coverage in the Evening Herald today of the striking drivers is absolute absurd, sensationalist nonsense.

Did you expect anything else from that gutter rag?

angel01

Dublin Bus have issued another update:

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/

shltter

Sensible_User wrote: »

HERE ARE THE FACTS OF THE MATTER

This disruption is due to unofficial Industrial action by drivers at Harristown depot following the introduction of service changes which were agreed and accepted following a Labour Court Recommendation.

Wrong it is due to a change of bill without completing agreed procedures

Sensible_User wrote: »

Unfortunately due to the fact that one driver who is out to promote a socialist party agenda went on strike we now have the whole city being effected by ILLEGAL wildcat strikes.

Wrong he just happened to be the first driver up on the 128 no one else went in after him so no one else is suspended.

Sensible_User wrote: »

Dublin Bus Drivers agreed to this method and agreements and anybody who disputes this should review the document on the LRC site which says any disputes should be dealt with later.

No actually the Labour court said that not the LRC and the company issued a clarification to that stating they would follow normal procedures upto and including schedules tribunals.

Sensible_User wrote: »

Dublin Bus is a world class transport company and the management of the company have led a highly worldwide appreciated group of companies to providiung a proper public service ahead of raking in massive profits such as the companies in the UK.

Dublin Bus does give good service but it could be improved

Sensible_User wrote: »

The roster changes that are causing all this fuss were fully agreed at the Labour Court earlier this month. Under normal circumstances, that should have been the end of the matter. Drivers have hidden agendas related to the socialist party and the BWAG.

Wrong no roster changes were discussed at the Labour court.

But this is the spin from the leadership of the NBRU and Siptu who are out of touch with the membership. Blame BWAG and its the SWP not the SP but again its wrong.

Sensible_User wrote: »

BWAG have gone back to the bad old trade union rulebook of the 1970s -- throw the toys out of your pram when you don't get what you want and let the people who pay your wages suffer while someone else sorts it out.

Dublin Bus are willing to discuss the new rosters again as soon as the employees involved return to work. Under the circumstances, that seems like a very generous offer.

It's one that BWAG should accept right away -- and stop making the hard-pressed commuters of this city paying for these renegade drivers' little hissy fit

Harristown provides the most unreliable services in the city and should aspire to Donnybrook for excellent customer service on the 46a, whilst poor still exists on the 40 and Finglas routes from the Finglas garage, for instance, those people from Tyrellstown, part of North Finglas, are having a lot of wastage on their routes, as put in the recent efficency report.

Drivers are willing to work the old roster for 3 days till new roster is agreed or passes a schedules tribunal seems a very generous offer

This is the spin that the Leadership of the NBRU were touting yesterday that this is all the BWAG and the SWP and that the people in Harristown will agree to nothing. Simple fact is that promises were made and broken and you cannot blame that on the BWAG and just because the BWAG point something out does not by definiton make it wrong.
As I have said before a stopped clock is right twice a day.

Beruthiel

Sensible_User wrote: »

Dublin Bus is a world class transport company.

LOL

You've never left Ireland then?
You've never been to France, Germany, Holland, Japan, the list is endless...

Dublin bus is why I bought a car. I'm not joking.

Thanks to Dublin Bus, Mortons private bus company were closed down. (Celbridge service)
You could tell the time by those drivers. On the dot. Everytime.

dub_commuter

As a general question, it's my understanding the NBRU is all but finished as a union at the way they handled this according to what many have been saying?

KerranJast

angel01 wrote: »

Dublin Bus have issued another update:

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/

Great news. Sack the instigators and lets move on.

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Beruthiel wrote: »

LOL

You've never left Ireland then?
You've never been to France, Germany, Holland, Japan, the list is endless...

Dublin bus is why I bought a car. I'm not joking.

Thanks to Dublin Bus, Mortons private bus company were closed down. (Celbridge service)
You could tell the time by those drivers. On the dot. Everytime.

Check out the shill upthread, and the posts quoting him....

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Dublin Bus is pleased to advise customers that services have resumed from Harristown depot.

While drivers have returned to work, a reduced service will be operating this evening on the services listed below and a full service is expected to resume tomorrow morning. All other Dublin Bus services are operating normally. Further updates will be made available on this site as services resume.

Dublin Bus wishes to apologise to customers for disruption to services during this unofficial action.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/

mathie

Beruthiel wrote: »

LOL

You've never left Ireland then?
You've never been to France, Germany, Holland, Japan, the list is endless...

Dublin bus is why I bought a car. I'm not joking.

Thanks to Dublin Bus, Mortons private bus company were closed down. (Celbridge service)
You could tell the time by those drivers. On the dot. Everytime.

+1

When I lived in Germany for a year it never ceased to amaze me that whilst waiting at the terminus on a bus that all 8 buses would turn their engines on at 15 seconds to the hour and roll out at the exact second.

Jip

dub_commuter wrote: »

Well having used the 40D quite reguarly up to 6 months ago

I have the number of Harristown Garage on my phone because of that route. I've been left waiting for non show buses, missed uses by several minutes due to them leaving early and also have been left waiting for buses that just aren't in any hurry to leave Parnell Square.

Jip

Sensible_User wrote: »

The 40D is from Finglas to City Centre, there for Tyrellstown is Finglas, do keep up dears. I hardly think that the Dublin Website is wrong.

And another idiot. Look at a map my dear.

angel01

Jip wrote: »

I have the number of Harristown Garage on my phone because of that route. I've been left waiting for non show buses, missed buses by several buses due to them leaving early and also have been left waiting for buses that just aren't in any hurry to leave Parnell Square.

I must say that is one route that I have found has always been very reliable in comparison to other routes, It is a long journey and at times it may be running late due to traffic. I can depend on it in comparison to countless other routes that either don't bother showing up or just drive past you because they don't feel like stopping!

dub_commuter

I still use this particular route, just not as regular, and I can count on my hand the number of times it has been late or not turned up in hundreds of using it and two of those were because of matches at Croke Park.

By the way, just for your information the 40D does not call at Parnell Square, it does from Parnell Street.

givyjoe81

shltter wrote: »

Was there windows broken

Anyone can ring Gerry Ryan or anyone else and claim to be whoever they want

Ha, sure they can, so do they do so with bus sound effects to back up their story?! Get a grip, did you even hear the news clip?

I could clealy hear the drivers hazards on as he was talking to Gerry Ryan, i could clearly pick this up as it was easily audible.. plus i should be able to recognise such a sound having worked for a private bus operator, who by the way understand the meaning of the words 'customer service'.

Typical discredit anyone or anything which that discredits your cause, or its reasons.:rolleyes:

Victor

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/News-Centre/Travel-News/Service-Disruption1/

Services Resumed
Tuesday, April 28, 2009

Dublin Bus is pleased to advise customers that services have resumed from Harristown depot.

While drivers have returned to work, a reduced service will be operating this evening on the services listed below and a full service is expected to resume tomorrow morning. All other Dublin Bus services are operating normally. Further updates will be made available on this site as services resume.

Dublin Bus wishes to apologise to customers for disruption to services during this unofficial action.

4/4a Harristown to Blackrock/Stradbrook
13/13a Merrion Square to Harristown
17a Finglas to Kilbarrack
27b Eden Quay to Harristown via Beaumont Hospital
27x Clare Hall to UCD Belfield
33b Portrane/Donabate to Swords
37 Hawkins Street to Carpenterstown
37x Carpenterstown to UCD Belfield
38/a Hawkins Street to Damastown
38b/c Hawkins Street to Tyrrelstown
39 Hawkins Street to Ongar
39x Ongar to UCD Belfield
40/a/b/c/d Finglas to City Centre
41 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Manor
41x Swords to UCD Belfield
43 Lower Abbey Street to Swords Business Park
70/a Hawkins Street to Dunboyne
83 Harristown to Kimmage
102 Sutton Station to Airport via Swords
128 Clongriffin to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
140 Finglas to Leeson Street
142 Portmarnock to Rathmines (Palmerston Park)
237 Blanchardstown to Castleknock
238 Blanchardstown to Tyrellstown
239 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Liffey Valley Shopping Centre
270 Blanchardstown Shopping Centre to Dunboyne

Addin

meanmachine3 wrote: »

ohhhhhhh boy now you've gone and done it gunner :mad:. how dare you come out with a statement like that, you dont pay my ****ing wages dublin bus does and no one else got it. thats the most ridicilous thing i've ever heard, so no matter where you go be it on holidays with a travel agent, getting a taxi or shopping in your local super market your attitude is " i pay your wages". well lad get on the bus i drive and try that attitude with me and we'll see how far you get Mr. I PAY YOUR WAGES. what you've just said is a load of bollox. i've seen that tripe in other places before and i will not accept that off anyone. up to now i've been calm , co-operative and very polite the best i can and given my views in an ordilary manner. tell you what go **** yourself and your views. most posters in here know my temperment, if someones nice and polite i'll be the same back but if someone rubs me up the wrong way i'll hit back twice as hard

ere big man lets get something straight here where do dublin bus get their money? government and profits yea? where do dublin bus get their profits? us where do the goverment get their money? taxes and they come from US!! we pay the money to pay your wages, oh and btw if your one of the ****ers thats being striking PRAY i dont get on your bus coz you'll be part of it.. ****

Nothingcompares

I've been a daily bus user for about 15 years. That's 1000s of bus journeys. Of course I could list times when I considered the bus driver to be rude. I could list many times when I waited for buses that never turned up and to be told by inspector that they did indeed and I am mistaken. But the vast majority run smoothly (or as smoothly as a dublin bus can - it leaves the first stop usually on time and anything after that is speculation).

I would have a lot more sympathy for the bus drivers than most of the posters in this thread. Operating in an incompetent company I feel their hands are tied. Only an incompetent company would allow people to **** about at hand overs (which should be abolished).

I hate taking the bus, it's boring, noisy and messy. There's very little the drivers can do about this.

Dublin bus have a **** website is that the drivers' fault too?

colly10

Jip wrote: »

missed buses by several buses due to them leaving early

Pet hate of mine, I can't understand why it's so difficult for some of them to just leave on time

WIZE

I live in celbridge and we had a bus service called Circle line which was great.
Dublin bus put extra buses on the same line to put circle line out of business which they managed to do. Then when the company closed Dublin bus took the extra buses away.

These bus drivers who went on strike could have cost the people who couldn't get to work their jobs . I have lost all respect for you . Not to mention your fellow drivers who turned up for work who you intimidated.
You should be fired !!!

kazzpop

I am glad the bus drivers went back to work. I am disgusted that people, seem always give out to the drivers, as a whole as it is their fault personally, when it is and its quiet commonly know that small group of individuals are causing the major problems, and most of them worked together in the same garage, very unforturnately for Dublin Bus management.
Its very sad to know that the people of dublin dont support their community service. when you think about it dublin bus provide a service for all of dublin and outer areas eg. Kildare, Dunboyne, co dublin balbriggan etc. wouldnt it make sense if they just provided a service for dublin only and not include other counties so the people of dublin could have a proper and good service rather then have half service that they complain about 99% of the time ...................

dub_commuter

Phibsboro drivers at Hawkins Street this evening were having a deep conversation about today whilst I was waiting for a bus, seemed that a few of them claimed to be present this morning when the so called "Smashing of windows" happened, and were informing the drivers who were not there, that nothing actually happened.

murphaph

kazzpop wrote: »

I am glad the bus drivers went back to work. I am disgusted that people, seem always give out to the drivers, as a whole as it is their fault personally, when it is and its quiet commonly know that small group of individuals are causing the major problems, and most of them worked together in the same garage, very unforturnately for Dublin Bus management.
Its very sad to know that the people of dublin dont support their community service. when you think about it dublin bus provide a service for all of dublin and outer areas eg. Kildare, Dunboyne, co dublin balbriggan etc. wouldnt it make sense if they just provided a service for dublin only and not include other counties so the people of dublin could have a proper and good service rather then have half service that they complain about 99% of the time ...................

There'll never be a good service so long as the archaic work practices continue. For a good service we need flexibility from the staff of DB.

liger

murphaph wrote: »

For a good service we need flexibility from the staff of DB.

What sort of flexibility do you suggest??? As stated Spare drivers work on less than 12hours notice of their shifts, Sometimes we can go into work and not have an idea of what time we'll actually finish at? Maybe we should all bring a bus home so when management want we can just pop straight out and drive when they need!!!!

Yes changes were needed at Dublin Bus but what has come in wont save the money they say it will, Expect more cuts and losses.

There's a lot of bashing of drivers here today but remember a couple of things.

1. Dont complain to your driver driver about your route being cut, We tried to let people know beforehand what was happening, Being annoyed AFTER THE CUTS is no good. Management wont listen now.

2. If you think you can abuse a driver for what has happened over the last couple of days, your out of order. No employee should have to face abuse in any job. If it happens to me and the person wont travel on the bus.

MiniD

liger wrote: »

1. Dont complain to your driver driver about your route being cut, We tried to let people know beforehand what was happening, Being annoyed AFTER THE CUTS is no good. Management wont listen now.

Since when did the drivers become interested in the customer? People are well aware of the issues at stake. I've heard the arguments from both sides. I've also read the Deloitte report. As a passenger I'm very capable of understating the different problems being faced, thank you. Nobody asked, or will thank you for going on strike over the last few days.

liger wrote: »

2. If you think you can abuse a driver for what has happened over the last couple of days, your out of order. No employee should have to face abuse in any job. If it happens to me and the person wont travel on the bus.

I absolutely agree. Perhaps you could pass that message onto the drivers who were intimidating other workers over the last few days.

Can anybody tell us why the bus drivers decided to go back to work this evening?

Reg'stoy

liger wrote: »

There's a lot of bashing of drivers here today but remember a couple of things.........
If you think you can abuse a driver for what has happened over the last couple of days, your out of order. No employee should have to face abuse in any job. If it happens to me and the person wont travel on the bus.

I have a question for you liger, if you joined the other drivers on the unofficial stike do you expect to get paid for that time.

Are those Dubliners who lost a days pay or spent their hard earned wages on taxis not entitled to a reason as to why they had to do that. As for not travelling on 'your' bus, leave the route and times you're working (sic) as I am sure there are a lot of people looking forward to testing you on your communication skills with the general public.

kazzpop

Some one asked - why the drivers went back ? the answer is the drivers went back because they where promised a new bill from one of the managers in dB, this is from my cat that likes to prowl!

dub_commuter

kazzpop wrote: »

Some one asked - why the drivers went back ? the answer is the drivers went back because they where promised a new bill from one of the managers in dB, this is from my cat that likes to prowl!

Shame they couldn't have done it earlier.

Cleopatra12

dub_commuter wrote: »

Phibsboro drivers at Hawkins Street this evening were having a deep conversation about today whilst I was waiting for a bus, seemed that a few of them claimed to be present this morning when the so called "Smashing of windows" happened, and were informing the drivers who were not there, that nothing actually happened.

Stones were thrown at 2 buses and a femaledriver was intimidated about going to work by approx 5 male drivers who were not from her garage. some drivers from Harristown went to other garages this morning and stood outside the gates.

An NBRU rep said to me today that the wildcat strikes were ridiculous and was shaking his head in disgust.