Man Utd v Arsenal Champions League

Spud83

Headshot wrote: »

back 4 picks themselves,ando,Ronaldo and Rooney are sure starters after that who knows

not sure about ando to be honest. He would be in there for me but the competition for central midfield is so big at the moment hats its honestly hard to pick. With Giggs sitting out the weekend completely I think he is definite starter.

also regarding the back four. VDS, Rio, Vidic, and Evra, pick themselves. At right back though you may see a surprise in either Brown or Rafeal.

Boggles

Yeah would go along that, Player of the Year will definately start.

Giggs on the left, Fletcher, Carrick, Ronaldo. Berbs and Rooney up top.

Spud83

Boggles wrote: »

Yeah would go along that, Player of the Year will definately start.

Giggs on the left, Fletcher, Carrick, Ronaldo. Berbs and Rooney up top.

really think he will go with a straight 4-4-2?

How many times has Giggs done a shift on the left wing this year? Think we need someone able to cover the ground and help deal with Walcott out there. Giggs will be playing off the front me thinks.

Headshot

think ando has to start for me ,probly is are only inform cm atm

tony1kenobi

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

also regarding the back four. VDS, Rio, Vidic, Evra, and Vidic pick themselves. At right back though you may see a surprise in either Brown or Rafeal.

Will Vidic be allowed to play twice? That seems unfair...

Spud83

Headshot wrote: »

think ando has to start for me ,probly is are only inform cm atm

along with Fletcher. However I don't think Fergie will go in here and have Scholes and Carrick on the bench. I think its gonna be one of Carrick and Scholes, and one of Ando and Fletcher.

Spud83

tony1kenobi wrote: »

Will Vidic be allowed to play twice? That seems unfair...

LOL, if only. Post fixed now.

Boggles

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

really think he will go with a straight 4-4-2?

How many times has Giggs done a shift on the left wing this year? Think we need someone able to cover the ground and help deal with Walcott out there. Giggs will be playing off the front me thinks.

He interchanged with Rooney in the Pompey game and was man of the match.

I think at OT he will play 4-4-2.

Won't see Walcott til the 60th minute I'd say.

Headshot

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

along with Fletcher. However I don't think Fergie will go in here and have Scholes and Carrick on the bench. I think its gonna be one of Carrick and Scholes, and one of Ando and Fletcher.

my mistake, Fletcher is playing good stuff atm too

I just really hope fergie isn't going to be cautious, go for it saf

Boggles

Headshot wrote: »

my mistake, Fletcher is playing good stuff atm too

I just really hope fergie isn't going to be cautious, go for it saf

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Theres goals in that team. :pac:

Spud83

Boggles wrote: »

He interchanged with Rooney in the Pompey game and was man of the match.

I think at OT he will play 4-4-2.

Won't see Walcott til the 60th minute I'd say.

I would be shocked if Walcott isn't on from the start and told to run at Evra every chance he gets.

Headshot wrote: »

my mistake, Fletcher is playing good stuff atm too

I just really hope fergie isn't going to be cautious, go for it saf

You have to be some what cautious in a Champions league semi final. A team with flexibility is needed.

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offers the most flexibility IMO. Ronaldo and Rooney can be pushed up top. Giggs can go further back into midfield. If Fletcher is playing he can out wide etc.

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I would be shocked if Walcott isn't on from the start and told to run at Evra every chance he gets.



You have to be some what cautious in a Champions league semi final. A team with flexibility is needed.

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offers the most flexibility IMO. Ronaldo and Rooney can be pushed up top. Giggs can go further back into midfield. If Fletcher is playing he can out wide etc.

I'd agree with those selections, reckon it will be Carrick and Anderson in the midfield spots (ando rested at the weekend for this match imo)

O'Shea at RB, rest of the defence as expected imo. Rooney needs to be wide left for this game to combat Wallcott, and Sagna if he is playing.

Boggles

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

I would be shocked if Walcott isn't on from the start and told to run at Evra every chance he gets.
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Can't remember the last time Walcott completed a full 90.

Think he is a much more potent threat coming on for the last 30, savage and effective weapon to have on the bench.

If it does happen, I would bring on the South Korean at exactly the same time.

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

I'd agree with those selections, reckon it will be Carrick and Anderson in the midfield spots (ando rested at the weekend for this match imo)

O'Shea at RB, rest of the defence as expected imo. Rooney needs to be wide left for this game to combat Wallcott, and Sagna if he is playing.

we also have the option of dropping Berbatov and putting Ronaldo or Rooney up top and bringing in Park who I don't think has been playing a lot recently.

Ahhhh too many combinations, and still over a day away. Wish it was tonight.

Headshot

would like to see Ronaldo taking on gibbs

Mitch Connor

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

we also have the option of dropping Berbatov and putting Ronaldo or Rooney up top and bringing in Park who I don't think has been playing a lot recently.

Ahhhh too many combinations, and still over a day away. Wish it was tonight.

Parks only use in this tie will be to track Walcott imo.

Spud83

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Parks only use in this tie will be to track Walcott imo.

So it comes back to whether Walcott will start or be on the bench like Boggles thinks.

EDIT: he started both games against Villareal and come off after 78 minutes.

Mitch Connor

For the home game, I wouldn't start park - play Rooney out wide left, or coming from the left - between himself, Evra, Ando and Giggs we'd have enough player capable of getting stuck in to players like Fabregas and Walcott, if both start.

Headshot

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

So it comes back to whether Walcott will start or be on the bench like Boggles thinks.

he started against boro and played well into the 2nd half

cant remember was he subbed or not ?

Spud83

Headshot wrote: »

he started against boro and played well into the 2nd half

cant remember was he subbed or not ?

67 minutes

Boggles

Headshot wrote: »

he started against boro and played well into the 2nd half

cant remember was he subbed or not ?

Arsenal are away from home remember, they will need to be thinking defensively themselves.

Headshot

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

67 minutes

thanks

he'll play front the start against utd id say

fab was injured against boro (no suprise there)but is expected to make it

Spud83

Boggles wrote: »

Arsenal are away from home remember, they will need to be thinking defensively themselves.

LOL, you used Arsenal and defensively in the same sentence there. Crazy fool.

Even if they do plan on thinking defensively, it will mean playing one up top. They will be setting up to counter attack then and Walcott is perfect for that.

Headshot

Boggles wrote: »

Arsenal are away from home remember, they will need to be thinking defensively themselves.

counter attacks

theo on a counter attack will be a scary sight

Boggles

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

LOL, you used Arsenal and defensively in the same sentence there. Crazy fool.

I know

Frisbee

Headshot wrote: »

counter attacks

theo on a counter attack will be a scary sight

This is pretty much going to be the plan I reckon

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Walcott should certainly start tomorrow night. Otherwise it means Eboue at RM and while he's played fairly well recently from right back, he has no place starting in midfield in the semi final of the CL.

Spud83

yay some gunners have joined us

gosplan

Walcott will start just like Rooney and Ronaldo will start.

He hasn't completed many games lately because he was just back from injury before the Villareal games and since then it's all been about keeping him fit for this.

I think he'll be massively important but would be worried about him defensively when Evra overlaps.

yahoo_moe

Boggles wrote: »

Can't remember the last time Walcott completed a full 90.

Can you remember the last time a fit Walcott didn't start an important match? He'll play.

Boggles wrote: »

Arsenal are away from home remember, they will need to be thinking defensively themselves.

Also, while he won't want to concede many, Wenger's a big believer in (and critic of) the importance of away goals. Especially against a team likely to score one themselves.

Headshot

I could see utd getting some succes from corners on wednesday

Mitch Connor

Headshot wrote: »

I could see utd getting some succes from corners on wednesday

No chance unless the delivery dramatically improves, been fairly poor of late imo.

Headshot

Mitch Connor wrote: »

No chance unless the delivery dramatically improves, been fairly poor of late imo.

vidic is due a goal N Vidic 17/2 score anytime

Frisbee

Alex Song 13/1 anytime scorer


It's happening

Spud83

Headshot wrote: »

vidic is due a goal N Vidic 17/2 score anytime

he done me well against Inter.

Headshot

great news for Arsenal

Silvestre trained today

Frisbee

Headshot wrote: »

Silvestre trained today

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Headshot wrote: »

I could see utd getting some succes from corners on wednesday

Surprisingly enough, Arsenal have one of the lowest tally's of goals conceded from corners and set pieces this season. Just saw the stats the other day(think it was to do with pool and zonal marking)

kida

Wenger has to also decide does he trust Walcott to defend against Evra

itsjaybud

kida wrote: »

Wenger has to also decide does he trust Walcott to defend against Evra

LOL:)

Walcott will START and going on both players current form, I can see theo getting the better of the french man!! (i hope so anyway)

Nunu

Wes Brown doesn't make the squad according to Fergie this afternoon.

Spud83

Nunu wrote: »

Wes Brown doesn't make the squad according to Fergie this afternoon.

really haven't seen it reported but I didn't see the conference.

Mitch Connor

Nunu wrote: »

Wes Brown doesn't make the squad according to Fergie this afternoon.

Surprised that he won't be on the bench, but never thought he would be in the starting 11, too soon for him considering he has only had 45 mins for the reserves since coming back from his injury. I reckon he might get 45 again this Thursday night and might be in contention for a run out against Boro. Don't see him starting either Arsenal CL game to be honest, not enough game time behind him.

Nunu

SSN were quoting Fergie as saying Brown doesn't make squad. They showed snippets of conference just there and Fergie said he definitely won't start, so he may make the bench afterall?

Headshot

gibbs out of the match according to ssn

OPENROAD

Headshot wrote: »

gibbs out of the match according to ssn

According to Wenger earlier he was going to make a decision in the morning.

Podge2k7

I can only see utd getting through tbh, but barca will beat them if they do.

Headshot

OPENROAD wrote: »

According to Wenger earlier he was going to make a decision in the morning.

just ssn are saying hes out but ill take that with a pinch of salt then

SlickRic

man, Arsenal's players are falling like 10-pins.

just when they need them the most.

gosplan

Switching Sagna is about as good as playing Gibbs.