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I miss the Dreamcast!! Anyone else ?
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Outkast_IRE wrote: »I think one of the reasons it failed was the saturn and how sega abandoned the customers with that . people were actually afraid to buy the dreamcast in case it went down the same route. Granted it did go down the same route but it was a good couple of years i enjoyed:D
It was definitely a factor but I think the main reason it failed was the massive success of the Playstation. At the time the playstation was synonymous with gaming like Nintendo was in the late 80's/early 90's and could sell on the brand name alone. Let's face it, the PS2 hardly sold on the strength of it's games in the first few months. I remember a magazine running a massive article on how to get the best out of your MGS2 demo, thats how bad it was
However I wouldn't say the DC was like the saturn other than the fact it got dropped way too early. Sega actually did support it after they stopped manufacturing units for quite some time but the announcement that they were no longer making units was the final nail in the coffin even if sales had slowed to a trickle.
The saturn was a terrible underpowered console that was difficult to program for and didn't have many good games on it because Sega refused to bring the good ones from Japan. The DC was a very powerful machine ahead of it's time which was a joy to develop on and had an amazing selection of games including lots of obscurities from japan.
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It's so weird, I don't even remember anyone having a dreamcast back in the day..It was PS1 and N64, that's it.
Me and another friend had a dreamcast, the others had as you said N64 or PS1. And it really boiled down to at the time if you looked back over what consoles we had. Throughout my life after the Commodore 64 every console i had was a Sega machine.... Master System, Game Gear, Mega Drive, Mega CD, Saturn etc and my friend who had the N64 had the Nes,Snes, Gameboy etc. I think really at the time alot of people who were gamers were influenced greatly by what 'brand' they stuck to. I enjoyed playing Sega consoles greatly so naturally i went out of my way to get a Dreamcast. Alot of people would have owned a Megadrive (i cant imagine anyone who didnt at the time) but alot of them didn't have a Saturn or a Master System.
I miss playing my Dreamcast, i actually still have my console and games but the power cable is missing, must get one off ebay or somthing and start playing it again 0 -
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Ah yes, was playing my DC daily until I moved to my current flat (over a year ago). I keep meaning to hook it up, but I'm tight on space.
I bought my DC on release day with as it was the thing I'd been looking forward to most since I'd finished college. It's a shame it didn't last longer, but there was a hell of a lot of quality squeezed into it's short life-span.
Playing House of the Dead by yourself with 2 guns is fun (if a little awkward)
Never got into Shenmue, I do have it though. It's not my sort of game at all though. MANY hours of multi-player Soul Calibur were had when I lived in Galway and there were regular gatherings in the flat. UEFA Striker got a good run too until we got a Pro Evo on our PS2 in them days too. Powerstone was a lot of fun and quite innovative in the use of the environment. Ready 2 Rumble was a great laugh too. Ikaruga - has to go down as one of the greatest games ever made. You could never get bored of it.
[note to mods, feel free to edit/remove this bit]
There are also a healthy amount of emulators for the DC. Have seen Mega-Drive, Master-System, Gameboy, NES, SNES emus out there. Was definitely one of the benefits of running on a modified version of Windows CE.
I never went online with mine, does that service still exist?0 -
Retr0gamer wrote: »It was definitely a factor but I think the main reason it failed was the massive success of the Playstation. At the time the playstation was synonymous with gaming like Nintendo was in the late 80's/early 90's and could sell on the brand name alone. Let's face it, the PS2 hardly sold on the strength of it's games in the first few months. I remember a magazine running a massive article on how to get the best out of your MGS2 demo, thats how bad it was
The big word here as Michael also says is "brand". It's true that for the first 18 months the Dreamcast had the better games but I couldn't see it at the time as I was blinded by my love and loyalty to Sony, at the time if I'd a dreamcast I wouldn't of pi**ed on it if it was on fire because I was 1000% certain it was doomed to failure from day 1 and resented anybody who thought otherwise!
Sony's position in the market was now absolutely miles ahead of Sega and to compete Sega needed a astronomical amount of marketing money, money Sega definitely didn't have. When i worked in gamestop for 4months I was shocked at the utter sh**e some people buy, I seen so many people making a purchasing decision after looking at the back of the case, remember Joey casual gamer doesn't read game reviews! The superb original playstation cashed in big time on the casual gamer and it's not Sony's fault that so many of the games buying public are stoopid!
You have market leaders Sony, Microsoft with nearly unlimited resourses, and the Spieldberg of games Nintendo...their was no room for Sega so it was only a matter of time befor the 3rd parties that supported Sega jumped ship!
I bought a 2nd hand Dreamcast in the end as needed to buy RE:Code Veronica (4 months befor I realised it was been ported to the PS2) and got it with the excellent Soul Calibur, glad I got one in the end!0 -
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cherryghost wrote: »quake III!
First game with cross platform multipayer? I remember you could play against dreamcast players on the PC.
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Not many RPGs but Shenmue comes close, Grandia 2 is brilliant, much better than the PS2 port and Skies of Arcadia is fantastic althought the GC port was better. There's also Record of Lodoss war but I think it's more a Diablo clone.
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