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Swine Flu & Ethnic Targetting

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,612 ✭✭✭uncleoswald


    The "use science douchbag" line was just a quote from the movie we were talking about and I don't think it was directed at anyone in particular.

    Unless of course he got a red card because the mods really really hate the movie.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    Ignoring the technical difficulties with targetting an influenza to Mexicans, American and Canadian DNA....you'd wanna be one ballsy bastard risking that with something that mutates as often as the flu!!!

    I have to get a new flu vaccine every year because it mutates so often!

    One minute you'd be targeting it towards Mexicans, next second it'd be wiping out you eskimo population :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭Undergod


    The "use science douchbag" line was just a quote from the movie we were talking about and I don't think it was directed at anyone in particular.

    Unless of course he got a red card because the mods really really hate the movie.

    Yeah, that's it, wasn't intended as an insult to anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    King Mob wrote: »



    And how much and for where exactly would big pharma make this money?


    Firms Look to Prevent Swine Flu Pandemic, Turn a Profit

    http://abcnews.go.com/Business/SwineFlu/story?id=7443409&page=1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    as above.
    LOS ANGELES, April 24 (Reuters) - The swine flu outbreak is likely to benefit one of the most prolific and successful venture capital firms in the United States: Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, Thomson Reuters Private Equity Week reported on Friday.
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/governmentFilingsNews/idUKN2445216420090424


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wow that proves it.
    There's no other reason for that to happen.
    Except that legitimate investors decided to invest in a industry that might have been in high demand.

    Well at least you have all that scientific and physical evidence to fall back on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    King Mob wrote: »
    Wow that proves it.
    There's no other reason for that to happen.
    Except that legitimate investors decided to invest in a industry that might have been in high demand.

    Well at least you have all that scientific and physical evidence to fall back on.

    you asked the question ffs!


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    you asked the question ffs!

    Fair enough, but have no evidence whatsoever that the flu was caused to turn those profits.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    King Mob wrote: »
    Fair enough, but have no evidence whatsoever that the flu was caused to turn those profits.

    And there we meet our impasse I think.

    It was just musing. All I said was

    So it can't be discounted as impossible. Any thoughts?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    And there we meet our impasse I think.

    It was just musing. All I said was

    And as I have said: it's not impossible that this virus was spread by aliens.

    Both that and you theory are about as equally likely.
    And supported by the exact same amount of evidence.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    Well, in my opinion this virus was set loose by some big pharmacutical or medical agency.... Does anyone else notice how much money is being pumped into these companies for "flu vaccines" and "facemasks"...

    Ya that's not odd at all in the middle of a recession..

    As a science student, i'd say it is entirely plausable that swine flu could be a target for mexicans due to the delicate nature of DNA.. I'm pretty sure each ethnical diversity group has it's own DNA markers or genetic sequences which are common for a certain ethnic group...


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    Well, in my opinion this virus was set loose by some big pharmacutical or medical agency.... Does anyone else notice how much money is being pumped into these companies for "flu vaccines" and "facemasks"...

    Ya that's not odd at all in the middle of a recession..

    As a science student, i'd say it is entirely plausable that swine flu could be a target for mexicans due to the delicate nature of DNA.. I'm pretty sure each ethnical diversity group has it's own DNA markers or genetic sequences which are common for a certain ethnic group...

    And as a physics student I'd say it is entirely plausible that it was an alien invasion plot!
    A viral attack would be the cheapest and easiest way to take us over.
    Obviously they underestimated our immune system.

    Bet you have just as much evidence as I have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    King Mob wrote: »
    And as a physics student I'd say it is entirely plausible that it was an alien invasion plot!
    A viral attack would be the cheapest and easiest way to take us over.
    Obviously they underestimated our immune system.

    Bet you have just as much evidence as I have.

    They clearly underestimated the power of the innate immune system. :p

    But if it was an alien invasion would there not be engineered parts of the viral dsRNA? dsRNA is how viruses replicate in our body and in general, as the messenger DNA, it would be easier to spot engineered DNA..

    Could you imagine the uproar though if it was engineered?? I would not like to be in that research teams position anyway :eek:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    They clearly underestimated the power of the innate immune system. :p

    But if it was an alien invasion would there not be engineered parts of the viral dsRNA? dsRNA is how viruses replicate in our body and in general, as the messenger DNA, it would be easier to spot engineered DNA..

    Could you imagine the uproar though if it was engineered?? I would not like to be in that research teams position anyway :eek:

    And does such evidence of engineering exist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    King Mob wrote: »
    And does such evidence of engineering exist?

    I would believe so. As soon as the human genome was sequenced, it allowed people to begin to decifer what gene was for what. And since scienists know so much about viruses now, the machinery they use in the body, it's entirely plausible that an engineered strain of the influena virus could be achieved.


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    I would believe so. As soon as the human genome was sequenced, it allowed people to begin to decifer what gene was for what. And since scienists know so much about viruses now, the machinery they use in the body, it's entirely plausible that an engineered strain of the influena virus could be achieved.
    I not asking if it was possible. I was asking if the virus actually had any signs of being engineered?
    Does it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    I don't think so.... well not at the minute from what i know!

    One of the labs in our college are looking at it! :)


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    I don't think so.... well not at the minute from what i know!

    One of the labs in our college are looking at it! :)

    And if that evidence doesn't actually exist yet (and mightn't). How can you conclude that this flu virus was genetically engineered to target an ethnicity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    Just my thoughts on it!
    Your alien invasion conspiracy is as valid as mine!


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    Just my thoughts on it!
    Your alien invasion conspiracy is as valid as mine!
    Or anything else I made up off the top of my head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    King Mob wrote: »
    Or anything else I made up off the top of my head.

    That's the joy of the imagination.. :)


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    That's the joy of the imagination.. :)
    And there is a difference between imagination and reality.

    The is no evidence whatsoever to show that this flu virus was engineered.

    And unless someone can actually show some solid evidence that theory is just imagination.


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