Chelsea v Barcelona 2nd leg (first leg 0-0 )

Barr

Utd will find it far easier to beat Barca than Chelsea , think Utd will hockey them

Liam O

It's funny how I was reading from everyone else how Barca would hammer United in the final and now it's a walkover for United? how short are some people's memories?

PHB

mada999 wrote: »

lol...utd will do exactly what they did to Barca last year and (what chelsea did over these two legs) and stick 10 men behind the ball and hope for the counter attack...the final will not be an open game...

I think United's defensive approach in Europe is kinda restricted to two legged ties. In the final, we went full attack. Fergie thinks you need to be defensive in away legs, but in just a winner takes all, and with Barca's defensive frailties, I suspect Fergie will take a swing at it.

FreeOSCAR

IMO Football was the real winner tonight.

Barca are a pleasure to watch, no hoofing and diving like Chelsea!

Roll on Rome!

Holsten

Grrrr.... Dropba angry!

eagle eye

I don't remember anybody saying Barca would hammer United, and I don't see many people saying the opposite either.

It should be a great game and the two best teams in Europe are in it imo.

DSB

Boggles wrote: »

His nationality has nothing to with it, the level he plys his trade at in the Norweigan league has.

I don't see how, its not as if the Premiership, Serie A and La Liga sign up all the best international referees to play in their league, referees normally officiate in their home nation. If he is a good ref he is a good ref regardless of whether he refs in Norway, England, Spain or the Faroe Islands. He definitely wasn't a good ref tonight though.

Mitch Connor

Barr wrote: »

Utd will find it far easier to beat Barca than Chelsea , think Utd will hockey them

I think the opposite to be honest. I think the Chelsea set up is better for United to counter than Barcelona's.

whatawaster

Barr wrote: »

Utd will find it far easier to beat Barca than Chelsea , think Utd will hockey them

why? United have hockied very few teams this season.

probably cos every team in the premier league have great defences

PHB

Wow, Hiddink is running a fine line between saying that it may have been somewhat rigged.

Liam O

Chelsea should be thrown out of Europe for next season. However UEFA will most likely go after Roman's millions.

DSB

Barr wrote: »

Utd will find it far easier to beat Barca than Chelsea , think Utd will hockey them

Barca will probably find United an easier proposition too to be honest, United won't play as negative as Chelsea, even if they aren't throwing men forward in search of a goal.

Chong

Guus on Sky , every word he has is spot on.

At the end of the day Chelsea were robbed.

I say this as a United fan.

grames_bond

wonder if its gonna be like this for the next three weeks!! :pac:

Liam O

Liam O wrote: »

It's funny how I was reading from everyone else how Barca would hammer United in the final and now it's a walkover for United? how short are some people's memories?

links?

eirebhoy

Barr wrote: »

Utd will find it far easier to beat Barca than Chelsea , think Utd will hockey them

I don't know I think it's a case of stopping Barca before beating them as I think they're just too good. Let Iniesta and Xavi play and they'll beat any team imo and I just can't see the United team stopping them or keeping hold of possession for long enough. Fletcher could have made the difference but without him they're relying on Anderson, and then you're looking at Park and Tevez.

GLaDOS

Moment of magic for UTD to beat Barca - Tactical genius

Moment of magic for Barca to beat Chelsea - Luck

LOL at people saying Barca were crap, if they were crap, how come Chelsea didn't destroy them? Barca controlled both games without threatening (much), Chelsea countered. It was tight, Barca were hardly crap, just lacked penetration against a 10 man defence.

Barr

DSB wrote: »

Barca will probably find United an easier proposition too to be honest, United won't play as negative as Chelsea, even if they aren't throwing men forward in search of a goal.

:rolleyes:

Chong

PHB wrote: »

Wow, Hiddink is running a fine line between saying that it may have been somewhat rigged.

Alot ppl aswell could see that aswell, for Pique's blatant handball , thats stone wall.

Boggles

DSB wrote: »

I don't see how, its not as if the Premiership, Serie A and La Liga sign up all the best international referees to play in their league, referees normally officiate in their home nation. If he is a good ref he is a good ref regardless of whether he refs in Norway, England, Spain or the Faroe Islands. He definitely wasn't a good ref tonight though.

Refs like players can be influenced by occasion and pressure, you can't tell me you have the same level of intensity in Norway.

dsmythy

Can't beleive they're even bringing up the UEFA didn't want two English teams in final and screwed Chelsea thing.

mada999

PHB wrote: »

I think United's defensive approach in Europe is kinda restricted to two legged ties. In the final, we went full attack. Fergie thinks you need to be defensive in away legs, but in just a winner takes all, and with Barca's defensive frailties, I suspect Fergie will take a swing at it.

maybe, but i don't think he will..i suppose we will have to wait and see...it's a shame both teams do not have their full team to pick from for the final...

i will say Fletcher will be a loss to utd if they are going to play the defensive game...thought he had a fine game against arsenal... i personally would play park in the final also to hurry Barca as Barca's midfield need so much time on the ball...

tbh... i can see utd winning 2-0 in the final....

whatawaster

Chong wrote: »

Alot ppl aswell could see that aswell, for Pique's blatant handball , thats stone wall.

Abidal shouldn't have been sent off . . .

CivilServant

Chong wrote: »

Alot ppl aswell could see that aswell, for Pique's blatant handball , thats stone wall.

Linesman didn't give it either and it was so blatant and the ball was moving so slowly. Cahoots I say!

Highsider

Delighted with the result. Uefa need to throw the book at Chelsea and ban them from Europe next season. The scenes at the final whistle where an absolute disgrace on the game. Prediction for the final. Barca 3 Utd 1

Instant Karma

Over the moon at this result, not only because a Utd Chelsea would have made the bile rise up my throat but, I really can't stand teams that pack men behind the ball like chelsea did tonight. On one tight angle shot tonight you could see all 10 chelsea outfield on the screen when the ball wasn't even in a remotely dangerous position. Even after that disgraceful sending off they didn't even bother trying to attack the ball and play a normal style of football, only themselves to blame.

amacachi

Stekelly wrote: »

How many refs in Rubgy make so many appallingly bad decisions in matches. (and how many different refs at the top level of rugby consistantly put in bad shifts)

Plenty. See the Leinster v Munster game today for an example of a referee who doesn't bother with an offside line.

PHB wrote: »

Wow, Hiddink is running a fine line between saying that it may have been somewhat rigged.

I think Hiddink gave a good account of himself, didn't say too much wrong I didn't think.

Frank Lampard looks just about ready to cry. :P

Boggles

Boggles wrote: »

Refs like players can be influenced by occasion and pressure, you can't tell me you have the same level of intensity in Norway.

Hey!

My goldfish is Norwegian. I have been hurt by your comments Boggles. We aren't comrades anymore you cúnt

DSB

Barr wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Good contribution, you're top notch.

Boggles wrote: »

Refs like players can be influenced by occasion and pressure, you can't tell me you have the same level of intensity in Norway.

The chap has clearly been refereeing plenty of European games upto this, to put himself in the frame for this game.

Highsider

Chong wrote: »

Guus on Sky , every word he has is spot on.

At the end of the day Chelsea were robbed.

I say this as a United fan.

Leeds,Newcastle,Manchester ??

Chong

whatawaster wrote: »

Abidal shouldn't have been sent off . . .

Yup at the end of the day the refereeing was extremely poor.

Barr

Mmcd wrote: »

Thats horrible making fun of him like that
You're a fúcking disgrace :P

How would you feel if you were just mugged

copacetic

Chong wrote: »

Guus on Sky , every word he has is spot on.

At the end of the day Chelsea were robbed.

I say this as a United fan.

meh, sitting back deep playing on the break and not finishing easy chances was what went againt them.

That and their reputation for diving and appealing for absolutely everything.

Jam-Fly

Does anyone else see a big glaring problem about our comments on the referee?

"If he is a good ref he is a good ref regardless of whether he refs in Norway, England, Spain or the Faroe Islands. He definitely wasn't a good ref tonight though."

"His nationality has absolutely nothing to do with it, its not like football in Norway is easier to officiate or something because the standard of football isn't as good as the Premiership. He has had a bad game, but he might normally be a good ref."


We have actually never seen this ref before! In the past, watching a big European game, I'd usually recognise the referee. Guys like Firsk, Collinna, and several others whose faces you might recognise. I for one have no idea who this ref is. How can he be expected to do a good job with no experience at this level?


Oh, and btw, I think if the ref gave any of 4 penalty claims, no one would really complain. As the saying goes, I've seen them given for that before!

Bob the Seducer

If Chelsea are going to try and offload Drogba in the summer it may be difficult to find many interested parties.
The diving, coupled with his performance tonight doesn't exactly scream "suitable for maintaining dressing room harmony"

redout

Stekelly wrote: »

I'm still a Barce doubter and I'm here. They showed nothing to prove anyone wrong.

I'll tell you what they showed (stolen from Beeb)

"Chelsea were on the brink of heading to Rome to meet Manchester United again - but it was always high-risk to let Barcelona have so much possession and they delivered one killer blow two minutes from the end of stoppage time."

Give them possession at your peril. 10 Fuking players, one shot on target - 93rd min and they dumped a supposedly better team out on their arse. Dont doubt them. Oh and a note to Chelsea for future reference - dont so easily give possession to your opponent and think your defence will do the job because it didnt and when you have the chance to kill the game off take it.

selpher

You know Platini is lovin this.

Liam O

Highsider wrote: »

Leeds,Newcastle,Manchester ??

There's only one United!

GuanYin

Terrible officiating and Barca don't deserve it for a second.

However, as a neutral I'm much happier at the thought of a United-Barca final than potentially boring Chelsea-United game.

MisterAnarchy

Justice done to be honest.
Chelsea played with a 7 man defence for most of the match tonight and they made absolutely no effort to retain possession.
Barca were poor by their standards,Messi and Eto looked well off the pace ,thought Xavi and Iniesta were very good.
I'd prefer if United were playing Chelsea in the final.
I suspect Ferguson will try and stifle Barca in the final and hit them on the break,Utd simply dont have good enough midfielders to take them on in an attacking game.

GuanYin

Terrible officiating and Barca don't deserve it for a second.

However, as a neutral I'm much happier at the thought of a United-Barca final than potentially boring Chelsea-United game.

Daysha

And for those that want Drogba in all its audio glory...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqJfF3lbgE

Edit: Never mind, got taken down already!

Barr

How much do ye reckon Ferguson paid the ref tonite - maybe one nite with Tevez

Liam O

Liam O wrote: »

It's funny how I was reading from everyone else how Barca would hammer United in the final and now it's a walkover for United? how short are some people's memories?

Link???

Highsider

Exclusive new Drogba training photo released

LuckyLloyd

GuanYin wrote: »

Terrible officiating and Barca don't deserve it for a second.

However, as a neutral I'm much happier at the thought of a United-Barca final than potentially boring Chelsea-United game.

+10000000000000000

Boggles

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Justice done to be honest.

An awful lot occured tonight, didn't see much justice though TBH.

redout

Barca have a major defensive headache for the final with Alves and Abidal suspended and Marquez injured. I reckon we will see a patched up defence with:

Puyol - Pique - Caceres - Sylvinho

Liam O

rarnes1 wrote: »

Link???

yeah because I'm going to trawl through a load of comments to find them, I wasn't necessarily talking about this forum btw. If you want evidence of people saying United will walkover them, look at the 1 above the post you quoted.

Daysha

GuanYin wrote: »

Terrible officiating and Barca don't deserve it for a second.

However, as a neutral I'm much happier at the thought of a United-Barca final than potentially boring Chelsea-United game.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

+10000000000000000

Do either of you not know last years final between Chelseas and United was 10 times the better game than either of the borefest's we got in the United-Barca semi's last year?