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stupid and beautiful or smart and ugly

  • 03-05-2009 9:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 189 ✭✭


    which would you choose...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Stupid and beautiful.

    Smart people seem to have the tough end. Ignorance is bliss, so the saying goes, and I firmly believe that. At least dumb people don't know they're dumb, and since they're beautiful they get everything in life taken care of for them, it's win win.

    If you're smart you know you're ugly, you gotta work extra hard for everything, and you realise how shíte life has the capability of being.


  • Registered Users Posts: 596 ✭✭✭35notout


    Where is the option for smart and beautiful - we're out there too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Question: which one would take it up the ass?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Question: which one would take it up the ass?

    the stupid one more than likely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/5016272/Men-would-rather-date-beautiful-bimbos-than-ugly-clever-women-finds-survey.html

    I'd definitely do Chantelle, but I wouldn't discuss matters of philosophy with her


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  • Registered Users Posts: 300 ✭✭neoB


    beauty fades with age, although you can get surgery for that. There's no fixing stupid...
    but even saying that, ugly is ok. I mean people change after you get to know them. They start to look different imo. Can't imagine being too bored with a smart one then hearing the same smut from the stupid one over and over. :rolleyes:


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,372 Mod ✭✭✭✭andrew


    Do you mean which would you rather be, or which would you rather be on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,054 ✭✭✭✭Professey Chin


    35notout wrote: »
    Where is the option for smart and beautiful - we're out there too
    Pics of GTFO :pac:
    (had to be done. Dont judge me)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    kevogy wrote: »
    which would you choose...

    Depends what purpose you have in mind? :confused:

    Tho if you are talking about a date (plus vigorous sex afterwards) and the options were the two extremes of Chantelle Hougton and Gail Trimble, then I would choose Trimble every time. Trimble is actually better looking than Houghton anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi



    Who is Chantelle? Is she smart? Because she looks like a transexual.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,277 ✭✭✭poisonated


    I think a strong balance between the 2 is important.A woman who is nice and smart enough to hold a reasonable conversation but is,at the same time,hot enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    Its the same old argument, beauty AND intelligence are in the eye of the beholder!!!! Who would be with someone they thought was stupid anyway!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,271 ✭✭✭irish_bob


    we live in an age where everything is dumbed down and the stupid are revered , jade goody anyone , more tv shows are made for the dumb than the bright

    stupid and beautifull means a life of money , adoration and status among the majority


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Lilyblue


    I think I am hot and smart with a few "blonde moments" :)
    In a partner: Hot, smart and funny

    I am very shallow :D


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Goes without saying really.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Meh that survey is hardly news really, men go for looks as a primary trigger and women while attracted to looks look for other things.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    35notout wrote: »
    Where is the option for smart and beautiful - we're out there too

    More blasphemy....call the police


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 278 ✭✭Rocky Balboa 2


    Stupid & Beautiful


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Who is Chantelle? Is she smart? Because she looks like a transexual.

    Thats the one that Defoe is lamping. She and that Channelle twat was in Mexico recently, causing him and the team to have to be checked out for the Pig flu virus. Shes a disease in general. So is that other yoke.

    Afaik Chantelle had a heap of jobs done on her, so dick removal would be no great surprise to me either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    Afaik Chantelle had a heap of jobs done on her,


    Classic


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭allabouteve


    liah wrote: »
    Stupid and beautiful.

    Smart people seem to have the tough end. Ignorance is bliss, so the saying goes, and I firmly believe that. At least dumb people don't know they're dumb, and since they're beautiful they get everything in life taken care of for them, it's win win.

    If you're smart you know you're ugly, you gotta work extra hard for everything, and you realise how shíte life has the capability of being.

    I don't understand that statement.

    How does being beautiful mean you don't have to pay your bills or invest in a pension?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭SoWatchaWant


    neoB wrote: »
    beauty fades with age, although you can get surgery for that. There's no fixing stupid...
    but even saying that, ugly is ok. I mean people change after you get to know them. They start to look different imo. Can't imagine being too bored with a smart one then hearing the same smut from the stupid one over and over. :rolleyes:

    True, but I still wouldn't trade my "beauty" for more brains. It fades, sure, but it's incredibly valuable when you have it. The fact that it fades doesn't detract from its value IMO


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,838 ✭✭✭✭3hn2givr7mx1sc


    stupid and beautiful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,357 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    I don't understand that statement.

    How does being beautiful mean you don't have to pay your bills or invest in a pension?

    If you were smart you would have figured that out for yourself. If you were beautiful you'd already know

    *runs like hell*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,476 ✭✭✭Mr.Lizard


    Abigayle wrote: »
    Thats the one that Defoe is lamping.

    There's a theory that a lot of the black England footballers get white WAGs in order to help raise their social status. Defoe should have checked the goods first before ordering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    Mr.Lizard wrote: »
    There's a theory that a lot of the black England footballers get white WAGs in order to help raise their social status. Defoe should have checked the goods first before ordering.

    Im glad you didnt use her name in that post. Her name and 'goods' wouldnt work together.. I'd be all for anybody checking out the goods befor buying, tbph.

    This may be a good time to bring up your avatar though ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    I don't understand that statement.

    How does being beautiful mean you don't have to pay your bills or invest in a pension?

    Ah sure, a lot of stupid but pretty girls do well getting by on solely their looks. It isn't really that hard. They just become trophy wives or golddiggers or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    I'm not particularly smart nor beautiful.

    I'd go with with being better looking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭allabouteve


    liah wrote: »
    Ah sure, a lot of stupid but pretty girls do well getting by on solely their looks. It isn't really that hard. They just become trophy wives or golddiggers or something.

    Just because they're stupid doesn't mean they're calculating. Just because they're pretty doesn't mean they'd be happy as no more than decoration.

    Stupid and pretty doesn't = goldigging wag wannabe

    Doesn't even mean they aren't nice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,487 ✭✭✭banquo


    My girlfriend has both, so...


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,921 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Silly question that, asking people to choose between 2 set options as if nothing else matters, when such a wide array of individuals exist in reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Havermeyer


    Somewhere in the middle. Brains AND beauty are generally too much to ask for.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,058 ✭✭✭✭Abi


    banquo wrote: »
    My girlfriend has both, so...

    Ugly annnnd stupid?!



    Wow :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭Nightwish


    My bf has both brains and hotness. Me I'd like to think I'm average in looks and above average intelligence. When it comes down to it though mind matters most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭briktop


    stupid and ugly ,
    gigadee , gigadee , GIG-A-DEE !


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭tech77


    I'm not particularly smart nor beautiful.

    I'd go with with being better looking.

    The whole "chicks dig modesty" angle.
    Interesting ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭briktop


    Nightwish wrote: »
    My bf has both brains and hotness. Me I'd like to think I'm average in looks and above average intelligence. When it comes down to it though mind matters most.


    i would keep an eye on your BF if i was you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,691 ✭✭✭Lia_lia


    Smart and ugly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they're not a nice, interesting person with an attractive personality, y'know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Smart women are more likely to be single - they are just as likely to be pretty -just because guys feel intimidated and shy.

    You are more likely to hook up at an MBA enrolment day or Open University Course than a singles bar.

    Lets hear it for smart women.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,526 ✭✭✭m@cc@


    Intelligence is part of beauty for me. Banging someone beaufitul is overshadowed by spending the remaining time wishing they would STFU.
    Parsley wrote: »
    Just because someone is stupid doesn't mean they're not a nice, interesting person with an attractive personality, y'know.



    That's not the point. You want to interact with someone who understands the things you understand and converse with you on a equal (or near to it) level.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    Seems I am going to type then - I always found intelligent men attractive, their looks were secondary at best, the idea of not being able to have an intelligent conversation with a partner is foreign to me...luckily I got both with my husband. I think that there is an assumption that "beautiful" people are more stupid, have not found that to be the case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Meh that survey is hardly news really, men go for looks as a primary trigger and women while attracted to looks look for other things.

    Personally as a female, and not being blind, I could only go out with someone I was physically attracted to.

    Men that are in the public eye and in the media when I was growing up all came in completely different shapes and sizes.
    Men grow up with a very narrow definition of what is actually beautiful in a women. They get the same body shapes and looks thrown at them all the time wether its Girls aloud,actresses or tv presenters they are all grown out of the same mould of western beauty. Hence they equate the Chantelle type as being beautiful and the 'ordinary' Gail Trimble type as ugly.

    Im sure If we had tall,dark and handsome men with impossibly amazing bodies thrown in our faces all the time wether it was in our morning paper, films, tv, adverts etc then there would be a shift in what women are led to believe is desirable qualities in a man and looks would come a lot more important in picking a male partner.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 284 ✭✭monellia


    yermandan wrote: »
    Its the same old argument, beauty AND intelligence are in the eye of the beholder!!!! Who would be with someone they thought was stupid anyway!!!
    73% of men, according to the news link URL posted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,458 ✭✭✭CathyMoran


    panda100 wrote: »
    Personally as a female, and not being blind, I could only go out with someone I was physically attracted to.

    Men that are in the public eye and in the media when I was growing up all came in completely different shapes and sizes.
    Men grow up with a very narrow definition of what is actually beautiful in a women. They get the same body shapes and looks thrown at them all the time wether its Girls aloud,actresses or tv presenters they are all grown out of the same mould of western beauty. Hence they equate the Chantelle type as being beautiful and the 'ordinary' Gail Trimble type as ugly.

    Im sure If we had tall,dark and handsome men with impossibly amazing bodies thrown in our faces all the time wether it was in our morning paper, films, tv, adverts etc then there would be a shift in what women are led to believe is desirable qualities in a man and looks would come a lot more important in picking a male partner.
    I do see where you are coming from - but what about chemistry, I have found that rarely equates to looks? A sexy voice that I could actually talk to would do a lot more for me.

    I would hope that men are not shallow enough to ascribe to the tabloid version of what is beautiful in women, surely they cant? Would never want to be a trophy wife in any case. I do think that there is a lot of pressure on men too but it is from other men, not women - the same with women, there is pressure on us from other women, not men, if that makes any sense. Just as a sort of example - there is a lot of pressure on women by women to wear makeup and have tans, from speaking to men I have heard that I lot of them hate it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,440 ✭✭✭GirlInterrupted


    When you're beautiful people look at you.
    When you're smart people listen to you.

    You lose your looks, but your character remains with you.

    Smart and ugly for me if I had to choose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    This argument has been running since Athens was a major world player 2700 years ago (or so). It wasn't resolved then and it's not going to be resolved now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 337 ✭✭Ash_M


    As long as they're not visually repulsive, I much prefer intelligence.
    That link said something about the sex being better with a good looking one. Possibly, but if there's nothing to talk about afterwards, nah thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Acacia


    Ye know, it's possible to be pretty and smart, or indeed ugly and thick (poor feckers). This thread reminds of that tv show ''Beauty and the Geek"- all the women are beautiful (and therefore stupid) or and the men are clever and therefore ugly.

    It would be far more interesting to have something with really good looking stupid guys and ugly smart girls.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,174 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    panda100 wrote: »
    Personally as a female, and not being blind, I could only go out with someone I was physically attracted to.

    Men that are in the public eye and in the media when I was growing up all came in completely different shapes and sizes.
    Men grow up with a very narrow definition of what is actually beautiful in a women. They get the same body shapes and looks thrown at them all the time wether its Girls aloud,actresses or tv presenters they are all grown out of the same mould of western beauty. Hence they equate the Chantelle type as being beautiful and the 'ordinary' Gail Trimble type as ugly.

    Im sure If we had tall,dark and handsome men with impossibly amazing bodies thrown in our faces all the time wether it was in our morning paper, films, tv, adverts etc then there would be a shift in what women are led to believe is desirable qualities in a man and looks would come a lot more important in picking a male partner.
    Oh no I think there would be somewhat of a shift, but even as it is advertising and the ideal of male beauty that is pushed is above and beyond 95% of men to achieve. The rippling six pack etc. I would still be of the opinion that ignoring the small percentage at any one time that meet up with whatever the society of the time sees as "perfection" and I would still think that women will be regarded more for their looks than men. It has been that way pretty much forever. Looks in women are much more an expression of their reproductive fitness than in men, where that is less of an issue.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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