Baby P

Mrs JackDaniels

Just watched panorama, just wondering what sort of punishment people think the childs mother and boyfriend should get in an ideal world.
I'd bring the evil ****ers out and shoot them but that would prob be too good for them

brianthebard

There's already been a thread for revenge fantasties. How ****ed up do you have to be to want to plan someone's torture?

Latchy

In an ideal world there would be no such crimes commited by people like 'Them ' .

Disease Ridden

brianthebard wrote: »

There's already been a thread for revenge fantasties. How ****ed up do you have to be to want to plan someone's torture?

This fcuked up

http://thecriticalthinker.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/forensic-psychology-psychopath.jpg

GirlInterrupted

Mrs JackDaniels wrote: »

I'd bring the evil ****ers out and shoot them but that would prob be too good for them

I wouldn't want to do anything that would make me as inhuman and brutal as they obviously are. They've degraded humanity enough, I wouldn't want to do further damage.

walshb

Mrs JackDaniels wrote: »

Just watched panorama, just wondering what sort of punishment people think the childs mother and boyfriend should get in an ideal world.
I'd bring the evil ****ers out and shoot them but that would prob be too good for them

A life sentence for him and a life sentence plus life for her.
As evil and scrwed as he is, she was the reason he was
allowed do the evil acts he did. She is one heinous animal

Mrs JackDaniels

sorry but this case and many more like it just make my blood boil, I have a two year old child and if anyone ever laid a finger on her I would want them to suffer more than just being locked up for 20 odd years

Mrs JackDaniels

walshb wrote: »

A life sentence for him and a life sentence plus life for her.
As evil and scrwed as he is, she was the reason he was
allowed do the evil acts he did. She is one heinous animal

Agree with you, he also is up for raping a two year old girl.
How do people like these even meet

walshb

Hey, in a "perfect world," I could think of many punishments
I'd dish out to those two parasites!

Jigsaw

I think they should both be sent on a two month rehabilitation programme in a nice modern complex to help them think about what they've done. Upon release I think they should be given identity changes and rehoused in a luxury house somewhere in France at the taxpayers' expense.

walshb

May 22nd he is being sentenced for this rape and a life sentence is possible, "If he's thought to be a risk to the public." That was what I read on the BBC.
I think it's damn obvious what risk he poses

Latchy

The killers of the bulger child are living the life Jigsaw .

galwayrush

Open Prison would be sufficient punishment.

javaboy

I'd shove chainsaws tipped with acid under their fingernails and put piranha in their eyes and make them drink weedkiller and stick mice down their pants and put a cat down there after them and put their testicles in a vice and blah blah blah.... then I'd jizz myself cos I get off on sick torture fantasies.

walshb

javaboy wrote: »

I'd shove chainsaws tipped with acid under their fingernails and put piranha in their eyes and make them drink weedkiller and stick mice down their pants and put a cat down there after them and put their testicles in a vice and blah blah blah.... then I'd jizz myself cos I get off on sick torture fantasies.

That's what watching Itchy and Scratchy will do to the mind javaboy!;)

Mrs JackDaniels

Jigsaw wrote: »

I think they should both be sent on a two month rehabilitation programme in a nice modern complex to help them think about what they've done. Upon release I think they should be given identity changes and rehoused in a luxury house somewhere in France at the taxpayers' expense.

It would't surprise me!!
only thing is I think alot of prisoners don't really take to people that abuse children so heres hoping they get a rough time in jail

Latchy

walshb wrote: »

May 22nd he is being sentenced for this rape and a life sentence is possible, "If he's thought to be a risk to the public."

Think it's the cons who get to him who will be more dangerous (to him and the public that is )

People might like this but guys like ' Him ' do get knocked about in prison .It's called turning a blind eye .

Nodin

Latchy wrote: »

The killers of the bulger child are living the life Jigsaw .

So are you saying you wanted to torture to death two 10 year olds? Groovy.

Latchy

Nodin wrote: »

So are you saying you wanted to torture to death two 10 year olds? Groovy.

What are you on ? ? ?

Stercus Accidit

I'd put them up in a 5 star hotel, then feed them caviar, and drive them around in a bentley and they'd drink champagne and be on mtv and be friends with all the stars, and give them lots of money and nice clothes, and pay them lots of compliments on their appearance and odour, give them bubble baths, foot massages, give them a football team etc.

Whoops, I mean not do all those things, where is my head today.

Snowie

id love to say what id do to them but i might get banned

Dante

Execution tbfh.

Latchy

Nodin wrote: »

So are you saying you wanted to torture to death two 10 year olds? Groovy.

My reply was to this poster ( below) and I was saying the bulger killer are doing just that, living a new life .Not what I would wish for but didn't say I wanted to torture to death two 10 year olds .Cant you read ?

Jigsaw wrote: »

I think they should both be sent on a two month rehabilitation programme in a nice modern complex to help them think about what they've done. Upon release I think they should be given identity changes and rehoused in a luxury house somewhere in France at the taxpayers' expense.

Mint Sauce

for him, chemical castration and solidary confinment for the rest of his natural life

her, removal of her ovaries and imprisonment for the rest of her natural life

neiter deserve the chance to ever have kids, this whole case made me feel sick, on hearing what he has been tried for since is absoutly sickening

all those involved in the cases of baby and the the other wee girl should all be sacked

:mad:

Pete P Peterson

I think naming their kid after a Rap artist is grounds enough for some pretty full-on torture. Perhaps a bit of genital mutilation might teach them some baby naming etiquette.

GirlInterrupted

walshb wrote: »

Hey, in a "perfect world," I could think of many punishments
I'd dish out to those two parasites!

I can't imagine that someone who abhors violence against another, actually wants to dole it out themselves.

walshb

For those who think they will get a hard time in prison by others in there, think again. Those in prison aren't bloody angels either and the baby P offender will more than likely be locked up with other heinous and nasty bastards. They will probably get 'kicks' from the stories told about baby P.
It's messed up world we live in!

Now, maybe if he was housed with "ordinary decent criminals," he may face a rough time

walshb

GirlInterrupted wrote: »

I can't imagine that someone who abhors violence against another, actually wants to dole it out themselves.

Hey, I am anti violence, but everyone has a limit to what they could tolerate and if it was my child, I have no hesitation in saying how I would react. That doesn't make me bad or mad or eveil, just human!

Terry

What's going on here?

walshb

Terry wrote: »

What's going on here?

Care to elaborate Terry?

Latchy

When this 'horrific crime' dies down another one will suffice just as bad or worse than Baby -p . Remember Ian Brady , Ian Huntley , the ripper , Fritzel tons of others ? .It's all being done before .I imagine the Prisoner will either hang himself or be beaten to death in prison because they are the only two real options he has going for him . Even hardened criminals can be horrified and somebody, sometimes, finds a roundabout way of getting ' justice '

walshb

Latchy wrote: »

When this 'horrific crime' dies down another one will suffice just as bad or worse than Baby -p . Remember Ian Brady , Ian Huntley , the ripper , Fritzel tons of others ? .It's all being done before .I imagine the Prisoner will either hang himself or be beaten to death in prison because they are the only two real options he has going for him . Even hardened criminals can be horrified and somebody, sometimes, finds a roundabout way of getting ' justice '

Latchy, this guy wil be housed with other sick ****s, so how will he be any
different. Honestly, how many cases have you read of where a nasty git got beaten to death in prison because of HIS crimes. They are all sick vermin where this guy is going! I tell you, he'll be a hero to some of them!

Elliemental

The law's about justice, not revenge. So i'd never want to see the Death penalty brought back (especially in Britain with it's abysmal record for miscarriages of justice).
However, I can totally understand the public's anger at the penal system, (with many believing it's a bit soft).
It's hard to know what to do.
These people are clearly the lowest form of humanity, and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if the guy was chemically castrated!

slippy wicket

Viking human sacrifice might suffice.
Known as the Blood Eagle, A large vertical incision along the spine and slowly enlarge the wound pulling the skin away from the ribs. Break the ribs using a chisel or a sharp pliers and bend open in the shape of wing on either side.
Place both hands in the holes you have made and remove the lungs and hang on the broken lungs to give the view of an angel. If it is done right they should gasp out their last breath with their lungs removed.

Latchy

walshb wrote: »

Latchy, this guy wil be housed with other sick ****s, so how will he be any
different. Honestly, how many cases have you read of where a nasty git got beaten to death in prison because of HIS crimes. They are all sick vermin where this guy is going! I tell you, he'll be a hero to some of them!

Well off top of my head and it took long enough but the yorkshire ripper had one ,then the other eye stabbed and Ian Huntly has being attacked a few times but he wants to top himself anyway .

I think the only thing that stops more of these guys being beaten to a pulp is the segragation .But nothing is 100% secure all the time .As for the sick vermin he resides with ,I think we find it disturbing that these people and his prison mates are around but yes sadly they are .Being kept there for as long as possible is our only satisfaction .

Elliemental

The point we're all missing here, is that this child's death was so preventable.
I mean, he was seen by X amount of Social Workers and x amount of Doctors (one of whom is said to have shown brain melting incompetance), and they all seem to have ignored the warning signs.
The police wanted to take the kid into care, but were prevented from doing so.

And now, the woman in charge of this sorry lot is suing for unfair dismissal!

This is the real tragedy of Baby P's story.

walshb

Elliemental wrote: »

The point we're all missing here, is that this child's death was so preventable.
I mean, he was seen by X amount of Social Workers and x amount of Doctors (one of whom is said to have shown brain melting incompetance), and they all seem to have ignored the warning signs.
The wanted to take the kid into care, but were prevented from doing so.

And now, the woman in charge of this sorry lot is suing for unfair dismissal!

This is the real tragedy of Baby P's story.

I didn't miss this. Many many people let this child down.The whole system failed him and it's a disgrace

Terry

walshb wrote: »

Care to elaborate Terry?

WTF is this about?
I've no idea what this baby p thing is about.
Thread has no links. Just gossip.

walshb

Terry wrote: »

WTF is this about?
I've no idea what this baby p thing is about.
Thread has no links. Just gossip.

I assume you are takin' the piss about not knowing, but I agree,
a link to any thread should be applied unless it's not possible.

Baby P was the baby who was brutally tortured and killed by his
mothers boyfriend in 2007.

Terry

walshb wrote: »

I assume you are takin' the piss about not knowing, but I agree,
a link to any thread should be applied unless it's not possible.

Baby P was the baby who was brutally tortured and killed by his
mothers boyfriend in 2007.

I honestly am not taking the piss.

walshb

Terry wrote: »

I honestly am not taking the piss.

Okay, where has your head been the past few months. It was quite big news
really, almost as much as the mega hyped ridiculous swine flu all over the news!

Anyway, OP, any chance of a link for Terry?

Dudess

Mrs JackDaniels wrote: »

sorry but this case and many more like it just make my blood boil, I have a two year old child and if anyone ever laid a finger on her I would want them to suffer more than just being locked up for 20 odd years

Well yes, obviously you'd feel that way - you wouldn't even have to be a parent to feel that way. But the state having the power to execute people... a very dangerous thing indeed.

Terry

walshb wrote: »

Okay, where has your head been the past few months. It was quite big news
really, almost as much as the mega hyped ridiculous swine flu all over the news!

Anyway, OP, any chance of a link for Terry?

I haven't watched tv or read a newspaper in months.
I'm sorry if this offends you.

Locamon

Dudess wrote: »

But the state having the power to execute people... a very dangerous thing indeed.

We are the state.

Imperfect as it is we have to dole out punishment.

If society can't protect it's most vulnerable and send out a message then we have a big problem.

Life without parole for such people or the death penalty imo.

Mrmoe

javaboy wrote: »

I'd shove chainsaws tipped with acid under their fingernails and put piranha in their eyes and make them drink weedkiller and stick mice down their pants and put a cat down there after them and put their testicles in a vice and blah blah blah.... then I'd jizz myself cos I get off on sick torture fantasies.

Have you been reading my diary?

Nodin

Latchy wrote: »

What are you on ? ? ?

This morning? Coffee, and the adrenaline caused by contemplating how much longer I'll have a job. I'd say till next Feb or March, but sure who knows....Anyhoo....

The two that killed Bulger were 10 years old when they committed the crime. While it may have been a vile act, it has to be kept in mind their youth. Therefore wishing for long sentences/wrath of god on them strikes me as inappropriate, to say the least.

Terry wrote:

I haven't watched tv or read a newspaper in months.
I'm sorry if this offends you. ?

"Baby P"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/7727641.stm

The "boyfriend" described above was just done for raping her two year old daughter, alongside that.

walshb

Terry wrote: »

I haven't watched tv or read a newspaper in months.
I'm sorry if this offends you.

It doesn't offend me. Terry, maybe you've been on boards too much! Time for a change of scenery.:P

omyatari

only after reading the news article...
what is wrong with these people.....

Lockstep

Right, this case involved an extremely sad case and a kid who was tortured and stuff.

OP; you're angry. Instead of inviting people to post their sado-masochistic fantasies why not try and do something constructive such as working towards better social care.

I'm baffled as to what you hope to achieve in this thread other than RAAAAAGGE.

Latchy

Nodin wrote: »

The two that killed Bulger were 10 years old when they committed the crime. While it may have been a vile act, it has to be kept in mind their youth. Therefore wishing for long sentences/wrath of god on them strikes me as inappropriate, to say the least.

Well I dont recall in any of the 3 posts i made suggesting that they ( thomson /venables ) should have wrath of god inflicted on them , they already have had that over the years , in fact i was pointing out that they have benifited from the whole bulger case far beter than the victims family ( who have not benefited at all ) So justice worked for the two boys in question .

When you say about them keeping in mind their 'youth ' remember thet it was not that long ago in Ireland that youth's were sent to Reformity Schools for the serious crimes of mitching from school ,stealing or just being unlucky enough to be an orphan . It's being well documented in recent years how many of those ' kids ' were systemically abused by their carers . But either way ,if a case like Bulger or baby P were to happen in Ireland ( god forbid ) then you will still see the Rage coming forth which is what I and several others see OP'S thread about . A chance to to Rage at the horror of the baby p case .

Mrs JackDaniels

kickoutthejams wrote: »

Right, this case involved an extremely sad case and a kid who was tortured and stuff.

OP; you're angry. Instead of inviting people to post their sado-masochistic fantasies why not try and do something constructive such as working towards better social care.

I'm baffled as to what you hope to achieve in this thread other than RAAAAAGGE.

I was full of rage when I started this thread, and everytime i think of it I'm still filled with rage and I don't feel I should have to apolgise for it.