Ireland could beat the Recession if...

tosh_thedude

I think if Ireland Legalised Cannabis and Prostitution then we'd beat the Recession. Think of all the Job creations, the mass Spending, the influx of Tourism, the millions generated could also fix or decrepit health service. Its the answer to all our problems. Dublin could be the new Amsterdam. Sure it has it's bad points but seriously... could things get much worse than they already are? What do you think?

AARRRGH

Ireland is currently trying to bring in a law which makes you liable to a €100,000 fine if you are blasphemous.

Therefore I think we are many decades away from prostitution and cannabis being decriminised!

ejmaztec

Considering the uproar when they tried to get a nudie beach at Ballybunion, I think that legalised prostitution in Ireland will remain a fantasy for dirty old men for some time to come, no pun intended.

bladespin

Las Vegas of Europe, sounds like an idea.

Thumpette

AARRRGH wrote: »

Ireland is currently trying to bring in a law which makes you liable to a €100,000 fine if you are blasphemous.
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:eek:

Thats not true is it?

AARRRGH

Thumpette wrote: »

Thats not true is it?

It is, unfortunately. I think it is being discussed in the athiesm forum and the politics forum.

aare

bladespin wrote: »

Las Vegas of Europe, sounds like an idea.

Looks like a plan to me...

Legalise high stakes gambling too...

The secret is to ZONE it...commercial areas only...

Make one HECK of an earner for all those redundant commercial properties and housing-estates-in-the-middle-of-ballybognowhere...

And yes, I AM serious...

Tech3

tosh_thedude wrote: »

. Think of all the Job creations, the mass Spending, the influx of Tourism, the millions generated could also fix or decrepit health service.

If it was the case it might encourage tourists but could also discourage other tourists who travel to our country regularly. Whats the problem with tourism already in this country. It still provides enough revenue to the government.

Also this costs money to legalize. There has to be new laws enforced. We dont have the money for any of this. Crime is also likely to go up.

doolox

They allow a certain amount of gambling, prostitution etc in the capital of Puerto Rico, San Juan. The city centre near the port has shootings and gangland feuds every night and it is off limits for women and children after dark as it is possible to get roped into being asked for sexual favours etc or getting shot at by accident. Any loose women are seen as competition or fresh recruits by the pimps and can be attacked if they do not do what they are told.
Such gambling/ sex ideas lead to an increase in violence and inevitable imposition of curfews on ordinary women and children to protect them.
These people lose their right to be out in their own city because of the activities of the less than savoury tourists such activities attract.
Research Las Vegas and Cuba before the revolution to see what happens.
Similar curfews and restrictions on travel by ordinary children exist in the redlight districts of Europe, showing that we must abridge the rights of chiildren if we allow prostitution in our cities.

Daithinski

We started a war with another country. And somehow manage to win.

Before you knock this plan, consider the fact that this plan would probably have similar odds of succeeding as any plan conjured up by FF/GP.

aare

doolox wrote: »

Such gambling/ sex ideas lead to an increase in violence and inevitable imposition of curfews on ordinary women and children to protect them.

That depends, not only on the existing culture, but also on how you police it...

Hard fact:
We had NO PIMPS in Ireland between decriminalisation by the supreme court in 1982 and recriminalisation in 1993...Escort Services/Massage Parlours got a door fee of 20%

By 1995 the country was crawling with them...and only got worse since. Escort Services/Massage Parlours get 50% upwards.

This is because prostitution is a business...decriminalisation places under the same regulation as any other business...criminalisation leaves it to regulate itself by the law of the jungle.

doolox wrote: »

These people lose their right to be out in their own city because of the activities of the less than savoury tourists such activities attract.
Research Las Vegas and Cuba before the revolution to see what happens.
Similar curfews and restrictions on travel by ordinary children exist in the redlight districts of Europe, showing that we must abridge the rights of chiildren if we allow prostitution in our cities.

That's not true. I have seen the red light districts in Europe..."quiet" and "boring" are two words that spring to mind for many of them.

We had a brothel in the village in Switzerland and literally the only outward sign was no flowers (or sheep) in the front garden and a candle lamp in each window. Took me months to realise what it was...NO WAY could a child figure it out.

This is why you zone thoughtfully...

There are gated housing estates lying empty in the back of beyond. Without neighbours...I have seen them...any of them would be perfect...

...and any child in a redundant industrial estate is in far more danger than from seeing the "naughty ladies" (as a male friend of mine who grew up besides the Pepper Canister used to call them).

Equally, there are commercial areas of the cities that are busy in the daytime and empty wastelands at night. As a result, as the recession bites deeper, and street crimes become more common, those areas steadily become more unsafe...and commercial premises become more and more vulnerable

If you zone them for on-street prostitution you have free security...in the form of WAY too many people around with a vested interest in keeping crime out (prostitutes carry far more cash late at night than most women, and, as a result, tend to be adverse to muggers).

Nightclubs have a similar effect...last year's insane licencing restrictions should be reversed first thing tomorrow morning (legal difficulties? too much work to means test them? other?)...if only because if the tourists we have at present were enough, we wouldn't BE in this mess, now would we?

...as a very wise man once said...

"let's get the stranger back..."

aare

Daithinski wrote: »

We started a war with another country. And somehow manage to win.

Before you knock this plan, consider the fact that this plan would probably have similar odds of succeeding as any plan conjured up by FF/GP.

...but who do you think we could legitimately hope to beat?

Haiti? 10 million? Many with recent experience in the use of automatic weapons?

C'mon...in yer dreams...

Liechtenstein, with 35k is doable...but is it really very fair?

ardmacha

Liechtenstein, with 35k is doable...but is it really very fair?

I thought perhaps the Isle of Man, we could restore Manx one of the Gaelic languages and we'd be able to loot the offshore banks to fund the national debt.

ejmaztec

ardmacha wrote: »

I thought perhaps the Isle of Man, we could restore Manx one of the Gaelic languages and we'd be able to loot the offshore banks to fund the national debt.

Might not be as easy as you think.:eek:

http://www.mecvannin.im/

dave-higgz

Great Idea but a non worker for FF

Their only voters left are mainly the conservative and the elderly. AKA the "down with that sort of thing" people.

aare

dave-higgz wrote: »

Great Idea but a non worker for FF

Their only voters left are mainly the conservative and the elderly. AKA the "down with that sort of thing" people.

URGENT UPDATE:

Any of the elderly who remained loyal after the "medical card thing" pretty much defected after they stole Christmas...

I don't reckon FF have anything left to lose any more...Conservatives LOVE wars...and Vegas...

tosh_thedude

AARRRGH wrote: »

Ireland is currently trying to bring in a law which makes you liable to a €100,000 fine if you are blasphemous.

Jesus Christ.... what next! :rolleyes: