Ugly man is Maddie suspect

SDooM

SDooM wrote: »

True.


Why did they go to America so? Was there any indication she was there?

Probably because American media and tv shows are more likely to be broadcast around the world than .. say .. British. Thus heightening awareness.

Dudess

Does there have to be an indication though? And they were probably using the American media - a valuable resource.

SDooM wrote: »

if this was chavs we were talking about do you think the other children would have been taken away from them?

Oh I completely agree, but I thought we were focusing on the disproportionate media attention.

As for "Ah I'd say they done it - shur a parent who hadn't killed her wouldn't be going to so much trouble" ... That just seems like people itching for a bit of drama.

Acacia

Dudess wrote: »

Ah in fairness, the McCanns have the werewithal to use the media, the parents of those African kids don't - it's sh1tty but you can't blame the McCanns for it. Blame the media for picking and choosing (and prioritising ad/circulation revenue).

Oh yes, I agree. People get bored hearing about foreign kids they don't know or care about. I suspect the Maddie case got so much coverage because it was very close to home for a lot of people. Not her fault or her parents', but just the way the cynical media operates.

kelle

It took the Portugese police 2 years to draw up that. Still, it's progress from the egghead sketch they originally had. Another 5 years and we might be told what he was wearing.

Doctor DooM

Dudess wrote: »

Does there have to be an indication though? And they were probably using the American media - a valuable resource.

Oh I completely agree, but I thought we were focusing on the disproportionate media attention.

As for "Ah I'd say they done it - shur a parent who hadn't killed her wouldn't be going to so much trouble" ... That just seems like people itching for a bit of drama.

I agree about the "McCanns r killors" thing, but the McCanns not being treated like anyone else in my minds eye is connected to the media attention they have recieved. Personally I believe if they weren't so much in the limelight they'd have been in trouble by now. I accept I have no evidence for that... just seems like they're getting away with murder neglect.

Mrs JackDaniels

SDooM wrote: »

Fair enough, that wasn't the point I was making in this thread at all.

It's a played argument but it's because it's true, if this was chavs we were talking about do you think the other children would have been taken away from them?

This was my point.

Have to say I agree with you 100%

Puddleduck

I think the McCanns are being very optimistic in thinking that shes alive. The person/s that kidnapped her are more than likely peadofiles (sp?) I think theres a statistic somewhere that shows most predators kill their victims within 24 hours.

Dudess

SDooM wrote: »

I agree about the "McCanns r killors" thing, but the McCanns not being treated like anyone else in my minds eye is connected to the media attention they have recieved. Personally I believe if they weren't so much in the limelight they'd have been in trouble by now. I accept I have no evidence for that... just seems like they're getting away with murder neglect.

I agree with you. The low-brow media have decided to go with the "let's all HUG the McCanns" angle, whereas the better quality publications/programmes are more likely to chastise them for being grossly irresponsible (and they were).

dlofnep

All ugly people will be fúcked. Internment here we go!

asdasd

All ugly people will be fúcked. Internment here we go!

Oh, for ffs.

There is no need for internment. This is a democracy. We have laws and due process.




No, we need ugly trials. Where a jury of their peers gets to convict and imprison their ugly co-citizenry.

RaverRo808

Whats always amazed me about this case,especially being a father,is how two well educated and supposedly responsible adults,could leave their very young children alone in a premise while holidaying in a foreign country,if you have young children,your parental instinct is too keep them close and in sight at all times,what they did is gross negligance and warrents them being charged and punished severely,they are mostly responsible for that poor child most likely ending up in the hands of some monster,but there are always two sides to a coin,could they in some way be responsible directly for her disappearing off the face of the planet?,its a possibilty

gra26

I totally agree!

Dudess

RaverRo808 wrote: »

Whats always amazed me about this case,especially being a father,is how two well educated and supposedly responsible adults,could leave their very young children alone in a premise while holidaying in a foreign country,if you have young children,your parental instinct is too keep them close and in sight at all times,what they did is gross negligance and warrents them being charged and punished severely,they are mostly responsible for that poor child most likely ending up in the hands of some monster,but there are always two sides to a coin,could they in some way be responsible?,its a possibilty

Wow, that's never been said here before or anywhere else for the past two years. But yeah, wouldn't it be awesome?! Think of the excitement!
This springs to mind... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindy_Chamberlain

Doctor DooM

Dudess wrote: »

I agree with you. The low-brow media have decided to go with the "let's all HUG the McCanns" angle, whereas the better quality publications/programmes are more likely to chastise them for being grossly irresponsible (and they were).

Uuuuh... We're agreeing on everything now. I have no argument left.



*sulks in corner*

omyatari

http://www.topix.com/city/palmdale-ca/2009/04/woman-accused-of-murdering-daughter-after-fake-kidnapping



...the Mcanns just did it better.....
if its all true, i feel realy bad for them, but tbh... i cant stand them people anymore.
its been said a few times that they might have staged the whole thing...
they seem to have turned a terrible thing into a hype.

ibarelycare

Puddleduck wrote: »

I think the McCanns are being very optimistic in thinking that shes alive. The person/s that kidnapped her are more than likely peadofiles (sp?) I think theres a statistic somewhere that shows most predators kill their victims within 24 hours.

I would say deep down that they know she's not alive but they don't want to admit it to themselves as that would be giving up. Even if Madeleine wasn't killed quickly after she was kidnapped, she would have been killed when the kidnappers saw the huge amount of coverage the case was getting.

Gary ITR

Kiera wrote: »

Meh, i would.

If there's hope for him there's hope for all of us.... So how you doin'?

NewFrockTuesday

We have our man. Case closed.

Disease Ridden

I hate the way it's human nature to give people who are good-looking (ie. maddeline and the rest of the mccann family) an easier time and more trust and sympathy than people who are ugly (ie. this guy, shannon matthews and her mother).

As if people who are good-looking dont have everything they want to begin with, they are coasted through life by everybody else.

Oh yeah, eh, I'm good-looking.....

fryup

he looks like my old religion teacher Fr Fiddly

994

Hurm...

Riddle101

I see the McCanns went to see Watchmen, the suspect looks like Rorschach.

AckwelFoley

LOL. Thats not him

Puddleduck

snyper wrote: »

LOL. Thats not him

Does it even resemble you? him?

Elliemental

Acacia wrote: »

But they were white, middle-class professionals. And Maddie is a cute blonde white girl. If she were a poor, black child , nobody would care, particularly if she were a boy.

This is tragically, all too true. Thousands of kids go missing in the Uk each year, from all walks of life, but mostly from disadvantaged, 'dysfunctional' families, who aren't quite as photogenic as the McCanns.

Funny how the press homed in on her.

Capt'n Midnight

Elliemental wrote: »

This is tragically, all too true. Thousands of kids go missing in the Uk each year, from all walks of life, but mostly from disadvantaged, 'dysfunctional' families, who aren't quite as photogenic as the McCanns.

Funny how the press homed in on her.

shocking number go missing here too

cosmic

Disease Ridden wrote: »

As if people who are good-looking dont have everything they want to begin with, they are coasted through life by everybody else.

They didn't have the fame though. Now they're even bigger than the Lindberghs... they have it all!

Dudess

Elliemental wrote: »

This is tragically, all too true. Thousands of kids go missing in the Uk each year, from all walks of life, but mostly from disadvantaged, 'dysfunctional' families, who aren't quite as photogenic as the McCanns.

Funny how the press homed in on her.

Because the parents had the power and influence to drum up its support.

General Zod

shannon matthews and her mother

The difference between media treatment of maddie and shannon matthews has a fair amount to do with the police involvement in the case and what they suspect.

Aside from the press conference, there was a definite lack in media support for Matthews parents, because the police had alot of suspicions regarding what had happened. That suspicion filters through to the press, and influences their reporting.

QWhich is why you had almost a year of the McCanns being suspects.

Mr.Lizard

Deepsense wrote: »

We have our man. Case closed.

Woah! That would be .... cool!

n1ck

cosmic wrote: »

They didn't have the fame though. Now they're even bigger than the Lindberghs... they have it all!

Except their daughter?

NabyLadistheman

Gerry McCann isn't the prettiest sandwich in the picnic basket....

MAYBE IT'S HIM:eek:

cosmic

n1ck wrote: »

Except their daughter?

A small price to pay for getting onto Oprah!

Dyr

Someone should tell them that they can stop looking for him..seamus brennan is dead

RaverRo808

Is there any word on that 15 year old youngone who went missing in Spain,the one who had pictures posing like an escort on her bebo?

Mr.Lizard

Bambi wrote: »

Someone should tell them that they can stop looking for him..seamus brennan is dead

Makes sense. They say the kidnapper usually has something in common with the victim.

hunter164

"Maddie" is an anagram for "Im dead".

CCCP^

The best theory I've heard on this is that the McCann's left the children in the hotel unsupervised because they knew the kids wouldn't wake up. They drugged the kids to sleep. Kate McCann was a anaesthetist before she became a GP.

Unfortunately, they may have given one of the kids - Madeline - too much and she died as a result. If you think about it this way, if you were a paedophile and you wanted to snatch a kid, a tourist resort is a good place to do it, loads of families with kids and their level of alertness is not at its peak because they are on holiday but ffs, if you were a paedophile, why not either snatch or buy a kid from eastern Europe, a kid that was blonde and blue-eyed and that nobody is going to give a **** because they have hundreds if not thousands of orphanges across the former Communist bloc.

I think as long as the McCann's keep this whole charade up, they can't be charged with gross neglect which led to her death and disappearance.

Dudess

CCCP^ wrote: »

The best theory I've heard on this is that the McCann's left the children in the hotel unsupervised because they knew the kids wouldn't wake up. They drugged the kids to sleep. Kate McCann was a anaesthetist before she became a GP.

Unfortunately, they may have given one of the kids - Madeline - too much and she died as a result.

Hmmm... or maybe she didn't give her too much of anything. But such speculating is fun isn't it? Like an exciting episode of Eastenders!

If you think about it this way, if you were a paedophile and you wanted to snatch a kid, a tourist resort is a good place to do it, loads of families with kids and their level of alertness is not at its peak because they are on holiday but ffs, if you were a paedophile, why not either snatch or buy a kid from eastern Europe, a kid that was blonde and blue-eyed and that nobody is going to give a **** because they have hundreds if not thousands of orphanges across the former Communist bloc.

Yeah, FFS... Paedos! Think things through!

I think as long as the McCann's keep this whole charade up, they can't be charged with gross neglect which led to her death and disappearance.

Or... maybe they are just desperate to find their daughter? Wild thing to conclude, I know...

javaboy

hunter164 wrote: »

"Maddie" is an anagram for "Im dead".

Yeah but what about Madeleine.... you know the name they actually called their kid?

Quazzie

Dudess wrote: »

Hmmm... or maybe she didn't give her too much of anything. But such speculating is fun isn't it? Like an exciting episode of Eastenders!

How dare you accuse CCCP of aspiring to be on Eastenders.

Don't you realise that Miss Lansbury is perfectly happy with her role on Murder She Wrote

CCCP^

Look I'm sorry, but they are not going to find that girl. I really wish they did, because a child that young doesn't deserve to have her life ended in this dreadful mess, but she's dead. Either the person who abducted her said "crikey look at all this media attention! I don't want to get caught with this kid" and killed her or her parents accidentally killed her.

newballsplease

CCCP^ wrote: »

Look I'm sorry, but they are not going to find that girl. I really wish they did, because a child that young doesn't deserve to have her life ended in this dreadful mess, but she's dead. Either the person who abducted her said "crikey look at all this media attention! I don't want to get caught with this kid" and killed her or her parents accidentally killed her.

case closed then.

No body found, so there is still hope. Ever here of Elizabeth Smart??????????

Mr.Lizard

javaboy wrote: »

Yeah but what about Madeleine.... you know the name they actually called their kid?

"Ma Need Lie"

RaverRo808

Whatever happened,a child has gone missing and most likely dead,and its a tradegy regardless of who her parents are,but as has been said already,she isnt the only child in the world,who has gone missing,or has been kidnapped,or has been raped,or abused,or beaten,or murdered,or sold into slavery,the saddest thing about it is,even though every child is precious,thousands of children,die and experience unthinkable hardship everyday,but when one White English child the daughter of wealthy doctors goes missing and is supposeedly abducted,there is a media circus,a national outcry,every sleazy low down tabloid jumps on the bandwagon and sells them millions of papers,all the lowest common donominator are talking and crying crocadile tears about it,but at the end of the day,whose crying for Dafur or Palestine or the DR on Congo etc,but thats life ,cant be all puppies and rainbows

Dudess

/shrug

People are more interested in Madeleine/her parents have the power and influence to get media backing.

It's not as if any of the people who keep harping on about the poor kids in x country can name a single one of them either.

CCCP^

newballsplease wrote: »

case closed then.

No body found, so there is still hope. Ever here of Elizabeth Smart??????????

Believe it or not I have. And what seems to be a reacurring patter in abductions is that the kidnapper usually lives within a 50 mile radius of where the child was taken from. According to the files of the Portugese Police, they still believe that if Madeline was taken, should would still be in Portugal.

Ann22

kelle wrote: »

It took the Portugese police 2 years to draw up that. Still, it's progress from the egghead sketch they originally had. Another 5 years and we might be told what he was wearing.

The Portuguese police are hugely unlikely to have drawn up this sketch. The case has been shelved. The original 'eggman' sketch came from Jane Tanner's vague description which changed considerably from time to time. It was commisioned by metado 3 -the private detective agency hired by the McCanns.
Check out the original ugly man:). This one looks a bit like Kate, like as if he was a down and out brother.

walshb

greendom wrote: »

They'll only "piss off" when they find out what happened to their daughter. Fair play to them in managing to get so much publicity for their case. I'd hope I could manage to do the same if I was in their shoes.

Well, maybe had they not decided to leave a 3 year old alone with two even younger children while they went out to a restaurant, this would not have happened.

Oh, but I forgot, they said they were checking every 30 minutes to make sure all was alright!:rolleyes:

Maddie was let down the minute her parents abandoned her that night.

Dudess

The damage is done though - grossly irresponsible and all as it was. Nobody can blame them for going public as much as they can.