Manchester United v FC Barcelona - Champions league Final

Mitch Connor

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Anyone know where Souness is gonna be tonight?

Souness is with Sky i think, nearly sure i saw him in their CL Final montage add..

Found it very amusing that they had clips of Keys and co talking in their CL ads - "With Expert coverage". lol, never seen the pundits getting in on these ads before.

s_carnage

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Pro. F wrote: »

Loads of talk in the media about Messi obviously.

But Henry is a huge threat to United imo. We don't know how fit and sharp he's going to be. If he's in any sort of good form he'll be a real headache. Loads of pace and a wicked long range shot too. How many times has he fcuked us up over the years?

It's a definite worry. He can't be 100% but the quality of football he has been playing this year, even at 80% is going to give John O Shea plenty of headaches. Barca have so many key men in so many areas that can hurt United but if Uniteds defence can keep strong and become the rock they have been in so many matches it should prove to be the foundation for another glorious night.

Here's hoping!!!!

Mitch Connor

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

s_carnage wrote: »

It's a definite worry. He can't be 100% but the quality of football he has been playing this year, even at 80% is going to give John O Shea plenty of headaches. Barca have so many key men in so many areas that can hurt United but if Uniteds defence can keep strong and become the rock they have been in so many matches it should prove to be the foundation for another glorious night.

Here's hoping!!!!

We need a big performance from midfield - we need them to help close down barcelona round the edge of the box - for passing and shooting. the reason Fletcher is such a massive loss.

Soby

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

Mitch Connor wrote: »

Fletcher is such a massive loss.

Feel so sorry for him and Abidal...Given harsh red cards but didnt put up a fuss just walked off...Tough one to call..Barca would have it in the bag if they there full team but now its just to close to call..All comes to down to how many players from each team turn up and give a performance

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

from kick off utd have to hassel the hell out of barca dont give them time on the ball,set pieces for utd are very important,I expect vidic to be the real danger man for set pieces ie corners,if Park and Rooney are on the wings and Ronaldo up front,cross a few balls in for Ronaldo he's great in the air

SlickRic

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

Mitch Connor wrote: »

We need a big performance from midfield - we need them to help close down barcelona round the edge of the box - for passing and shooting. the reason Fletcher is such a massive loss.

in a nutshell.

if utd somehow win the midfield battle, or even get an above average foothold from there, barca will struggle to do it.

i've every confidence in xavi and andrés though

SlickRic

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

Soby wrote: »

Barca would have it in the bag if they there full team

no they wouldn't have, as much as i hate to say it.

JP Liz

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

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The Red Devils all the way!

s_carnage

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Mitch Connor wrote: »

We need a big performance from midfield - we need them to help close down barcelona round the edge of the box - for passing and shooting. the reason Fletcher is such a massive loss.

Ya he is such a big loss, his performances this year would be made for this game. I still think Anderson can do the business though.

Was looking at Paddy Power there and thinking about putting on a bet or two but God its impossible. I know betting isn't meant to be easy but usually with most games you'd have a slight idea how it is going to go but with this....nothing!!! Think I'll put the betting to the side for another night or just do the lotto instead. What a night that would be: €13mill and United Champions of Europe. :D:D

citytillidie

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

All i can say is



COME ON BARCA

Mitch Connor

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Even if Fletcher was available, Anderson would have started imo.

Would have been Fletcher - Carrick - Anderson. With Fletcher and Anderson detailed to buzz around Xavi and Iniesta for the night. I reckon it would have been the exact same team as played Arsenal away.

I do hope, and think, Anderson can put in a top performance for us, but we'll still miss Fletcher.

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

ando needs to bring it tonight,really hope he proves people wrong,the lad has great ability like able to do a proper long range pass eg pass for giggs against pompey and he has such strength,well capable of holding up the ball and has some burst of pace

Theresalwaysone

Hittin the Woolshed now, figure its safer/has more alcohol/better craic than Rome.

Talk to you's all tomorrow, in the hazy glow of a fourth European Cup Success.



You En Eye- Tea Ee Dee

Pro. F

Davaeo09 wrote: »

Some one just hit on it there, but apart from Barca's possession and attacking philosophy, they do work really hard for the ball back. It's some thing that's really made them such a different team this year to last years. Players like Henry and Messi really do chase the ball allot i.e. look at Messi's goal against Madrid earlier this month, Xavi catches Diarra in possesion and Messi's straight through. United will find it hard passing through Barca tonight, but if they do, well, I expect Ronaldo to make a fool out of Pique and Sylviniho. (pressuming the later starts)

I've been thinking about this. It's true Barca have been good when closing down this season but how good at it are they? I mean I wouldn't think they're as a good as say Everton.

So I hope United don't get intimidated when they have the ball because Barca are doing some harassing. It's hard to go for long periods without the ball and then when you've got it to be chased and harried. But I think if the United team can ride it out and keep possession for reasonable periods Barca might be found to not be so tenacious.

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Yeah people whats your crazy bets for tonight.

I have

€5 on 3-1 to United at 20-1.
€5 on John O'Shea to score first at 40/1
€10 on Vidic to score first at 25/1.

I'm crap at betting though. I did manage to resist putting a punt on Anderson though as John O'Shea is longer odds but probably more likely to score.

Soby

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

14/1 or there abouts for O'shea to be first yellow card...good bet

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

Hittin the Woolshed now, figure its safer/has more alcohol/better craic than Rome.

Talk to you's all tomorrow, in the hazy glow of a fourth European Cup Success.



You En Eye- Tea Ee Dee

Ya baxtard being able to start drinking already. Another 2 hours in work for me (should be 2.5)

eZe^

Barcelona (United fan)

Davaeo09 = my favourite new poster. Agree with everything he has to say so far..

Mr. Presentable

Barcelona (Barcelona fan)

Headshot wrote: »

the manchester utd fan is out of hospital now

so he's ok

in this day of age to have so called fans like the ultra's its a digrace,Roma should be banned from european competitions (couple of seasons)and play league games in a closed stadium 10 games will do

that'll ****ing teach them

Why? The police don't know who commited the assault, but you can say Roma fans should be banned on foot of it?

You're right, of course. If this was something at the stadium involving fans then, yes, the club should be punished. But it's not.

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Yeah people whats your crazy bets for tonight.

I have

€5 on 3-1 to United at 20-1.
€5 on John O'Shea to score first at 40/1
€10 on Vidic to score first at 25/1.

I'm crap at betting though. I did manage to resist putting a punt on Anderson though as John O'Shea is longer odds but probably more likely to score.

nice bet on vidic,what are he's odds for anytime?

Boggles

Jaysus I step out for a couple of hours and the thread goes Antonio Banderas! :eek:

---

Scholes

---

Carrick

---

Anderson

---

Ronaldo

---

Rooney

---

Berbatov

---

That's the chatter coming out of Rome.

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Headshot wrote: »

nice bet on vidic,what are he's odds for anytime?

8/1

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Boggles wrote: »

Jaysus I step out for a couple of hours and the thread goes Antonio Banderas! :eek:

---

Scholes

---

Carrick

---

Anderson

---

Ronaldo

---

Rooney

---

Berbatov

---

That's the chatter coming out of Rome.

id be happy with that,berba is one best around for holding up the ball just hope he doesnt come too deep tonight

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

8/1

if i only had any money

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Headshot wrote: »

if i only had any money

lost it all on the youth cup final?

Liam O

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Really looking forward to this. Don't know whether to hit the pub what with the LC next week, but might be tempted.

Liam O

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Headshot wrote: »

id be happy with that,berba is one best around for holding up the ball just hope he doesnt come too deep tonight

I definitely wouldn't bet against Park starting

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Liam O wrote: »

Really looking forward to this. Don't know whether to hit the pub what with the LC next week, but might be tempted.

Dude seriously pub. I went drinking the Saturday before the leaving cert and the Saturday during it. I turned out fine.

Pro. F

id be happy with that,berba is one best around for holding up the ball just hope he doesnt come too deep tonight

I'd say each player will be under very strict orders tonight. But maybe Berbatov's orders will be to come deep :pac:

Surprised to see Scholes start ahead of Giggs if that's true. I read somewhere Ferguson saying Scholes would probably be involved at some stage tonight.

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Liam O wrote: »

I definitely wouldn't bet against Park starting

Would be harsh on park to be left out two years in a row. He defo can't miss the bench this year.

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

lost it all on the youth cup final?

just a small bit,still havent found a job yet

gimmick

Manchester United (Neutral)

Pro. F wrote: »

I've been thinking about this. It's true Barca have been good when closing down this season but how good at it are they? I mean I wouldn't think they're as a good as say Everton.

You think Everton are on a par with barcelona?

Davaeo09

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

eZe^ wrote: »

Davaeo09 = my favourite new poster. Agree with everything he has to say so far..

Hehe popping my own cherry!

Cheer's buddy, glad to be on these forums at last

Any way, I can see this being a high scoring affair to be honest.

Spud83

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Headshot wrote: »

just a small bit,still havent found a job yet

you know boards ain't a job site right

Boggles

Headshot wrote: »

id be happy with that,berba is one best around for holding up the ball just hope he doesnt come too deep tonight

But Ronaldo has the pace to unlock the offside trap.

Davaeo09

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

gimmick wrote: »

You think Everton are on a par with barcelona?

He means in terms of pressing and getting in players faces quickly.

L'prof

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

Yeah people whats your crazy bets for tonight.

I have

€5 on 3-1 to United at 20-1.
€5 on John O'Shea to score first at 40/1
€10 on Vidic to score first at 25/1.

I'm crap at betting though. I did manage to resist putting a punt on Anderson though as John O'Shea is longer odds but probably more likely to score.

I have

€5 2-0 Barca & Iniesta to score first @ 149/1
€5 2-0 Barca @ 16.5/1
€5 Barca to win & Eto'o to score @ 11/2
€5 Barca to win & Iniesta to score @ 10/1
€5 Barca to win & 9 or less corners & card index 45 or more @ 10/1

So, I want Barca to win I have to be honest and say I expect to lose all my bets!

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

alanmurphy83 wrote: »

you know boards ain't a job site right

so that explains it

Boggles

jasonorr wrote: »

I have

€5 2-0 Barca & Iniesta to score first @ 149/1
€5 2-0 Barca @ 16.5/1
€5 Barca to win & Eto'o to score @ 11/2
€5 Barca to win & Iniesta to score @ 10/1
€5 Barca to win & 9 or less corners & card index 45 or more @ 10/1

So, I want Barca to win I have to be honest and say I expect to lose all my bets!

Pity with the money you spent you could have got a Barca T-Shirt.

Headshot

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Boggles wrote: »

Pity with the money you spent you could have got a Barca T-Shirt.

ahh man here it goes again

grames_bond

Liam O wrote: »

Really looking forward to this. Don't know whether to hit the pub what with the LC next week, but might be tempted.

i have the last of my college finals on friday, and its the hardest exam ever but im headin out tonight!!

and i was out for my mates birthday abotu 3 days before my LC started and i made it to college etc!

youll be grand!

Boggles

Liam O wrote: »

Really looking forward to this. Don't know whether to hit the pub what with the LC next week, but might be tempted.

Sure what are you worried about, there is no jobs anyway! :pac:

roryc

I walked into the bookies a few hours ago in Perth, managed to get a few bets on...

actually saw United to win at 2.65 (decimal odds), think they made a bit of a balls of the odds, tried to lump $250 on but they wouldn't take the bet "System was acting up" apparantly... was gonna try and challenge it a little bit but not sure what the Aussie law is on bookies having to take a bet on odds shown?


Ended up putting
$20 on Rooney to score first @ 8.5 - Win pays $170
$20 on United to keep a clean sheet @ 2.95 - Win pays $59
$50 on United to win 2-0 @ 12.00 - win pays $600

So hopefully Rooney scores first and United win 2-0!! Would be happy with any United win though

Pro. F

gimmick wrote: »

You think Everton are on a par with barcelona?

I'm talking about closing down the opposition and chasing the ball.
Everton seem build their whole game around that. I'm wondering how good would the likes of Messi and Iniesta etc be if they had to chase the ball for a good portion of the game. Attitude wise and in terms of organisation.

eZe^

Barcelona (United fan)

Pro. F wrote: »

I'm talking about closing down the opposition and chasing the ball.
Everton seem build their whole game around that. I'm wondering how good would the likes of Messi and Iniesta etc be if they had to chase the ball for a good portion of the game. Attitude wise and in terms of organisation.

Attitude isn't the problem though. The thing is, Guardiola said it himself, his tactics mean that the players eventually end up doing LESS running. It may seem that Messi/ Eto'o/ Henry are constantly harrying the opposition when not in defense, but overall it means that they don't have to run as much.

Basically, what was happening last year was Barca were lackadaisical when not in possession, meaning they let opposition teams move up to their penalty area before they'd try and win the ball back. That means that the attackers have to run 80 yards before they can create an opportunity.

This year, they are hassling as soon as they lose the ball meaning that when they win it back inside the opponents half they have much less of the pitch to run when on the counter. It's pretty smart really, and the work ethic has paid MASSIVE dividends on the pitch. (Just watch the Chelsea/ Madrid games this year).

L'prof

Don't care (just want the game to be a cracker)

Boggles wrote: »

Pity with the money you spent you could have got a Barca T-Shirt.

I can buy a jersey anytime, but it doesn't have the potential to win me any money!

UnitedIrishman

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Bets for tonight:

17/10 United to win in 90 mins - €20
€5 on Rooney to score first @ 15/2, €5 on Henry to score first @ 9/1
€20 on Over 2.5 goals.
€5 on a Barcelona sending off

ShooterSF

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

roryc wrote: »

I walked into the bookies a few hours ago in Perth, managed to get a few bets on...

actually saw United to win at 2.65 (decimal odds), think they made a bit of a balls of the odds, tried to lump $250 on but they wouldn't take the bet "System was acting up" apparantly... was gonna try and challenge it a little bit but not sure what the Aussie law is on bookies having to take a bet on odds shown?


Ended up putting
$20 on Rooney to score first @ 8.5 - Win pays $170
$20 on United to keep a clean sheet @ 2.95 - Win pays $59
$50 on United to win 2-0 @ 12.00 - win pays $600

So hopefully Rooney scores first and United win 2-0!! Would be happy with any United win though

That's about right. Its only 23/20.
Got Vidic on betfair first scorer at 31/1. Only €2 cause I don't like gambling really.

s_carnage

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

Reports from Goal.com is that Barca are supposed to be lining up like this:

-Valdes –
- Puyol, Pique, Toure, Keita –
- Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta –
- Messi, Eto’o, Henry –

It's really the expected team, just a throw up between Keita & Sylvinho

Mitch Connor

Manchester United (Barcelona fan)

s_carnage wrote: »

Reports from Goal.com is that Barca are supposed to be lining up like this:

-Valdes –
- Puyol, Pique, Toure, Keita –
- Xavi, Busquets, Iniesta –
- Messi, Eto’o, Henry –

It's really the expected team, just a throw up between Keita & Sylvinho

Goal.com is rubbish.

Hearing rumours myself that Henry won't be starting.