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Deal Breakers

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  • 07-05-2009 4:08pm
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    Hi ladies, this is a question that's been playing on my mind the past couple of weeks so i said i would put it out there to hear some of your thoughts on it. As everyone knows...or well..should know, maintaining healthy boundaries are a must in a relationship, for your wellbeing and to teach others how to treat you :). My question is what are your boundaries? What would the consequences be if a partner were to cross them...would you leave and not look back, give a warning, stay friends etc...?? Would you be willing to compromise your boundaries to enable the relationship to continue?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 844 ✭✭✭allabouteve


    RoxyHart wrote: »
    Hi ladies, this is a question that's been playing on my mind the past couple of weeks so i said i would put it out there to hear some of your thoughts on it. As everyone knows...or well..should know, maintaining healthy boundaries are a must in a relationship, for your wellbeing and to teach others how to treat you :). My question is what are your boundaries? What would the consequences be if a partner were to cross them...would you leave and not look back, give a warning, stay friends etc...?? Would you be willing to compromise your boundaries to enable the relationship to continue?

    Depends on what you mean by boundaries.

    If it means someone doing stuff like going through my e-mails, or reading my texts, thats a major breach of privacy. I wouldn't tolerate it.

    If you mean physical boundaries, if I say no to something and its not respected, then goodbye.


  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭ciagr297


    RoxyHart wrote: »
    Hi ladies, this is a question that's been playing on my mind the past couple of weeks so i said i would put it out there to hear some of your thoughts on it. As everyone knows...or well..should know, maintaining healthy boundaries are a must in a relationship, for your wellbeing and to teach others how to treat you :). My question is what are your boundaries? What would the consequences be if a partner were to cross them...would you leave and not look back, give a warning, stay friends etc...?? Would you be willing to compromise your boundaries to enable the relationship to continue?
    its funny you should post this, its been in my mind for quite a bit now.

    recently i've been put in a situation where i've begun questioning my own boundaries - and trying to understand what mine are will, i hope, teach me to recognise if i am invading someone elses

    already i am seeing some gaps where i basically haven't decided on a boundary...dangerous....so i'm working at figuring out what the boundary should be in each case. its a slow process ;)

    as the saying goes, you have to know yourself before you can know others (or something to that effect)

    generally i try to issue some warning first (i'm getting better at doing this!) and then if it keeps happening, a fairly honest conversation needs to happen. for me, the key is keeping calm cause where you feel cornered, you are likely to react instinctively to protect yourself


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭Mrs JackDaniels


    men that wear scarfs, have a uni brow, are too serious and stuck up


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,883 ✭✭✭shellyboo


    men that wear scarfs
    ]

    That's really a dealbreaker for you?! Good luck to you in winter in this country then!

    For me, smoking is my only hard and fast dealbreaker. I'm pretty open-minded otherwise.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    Cheating and lying. About anything.

    That's pretty much it, I'm fairly easy going, but those two are way too important.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭Mrs JackDaniels


    shellyboo wrote: »
    ]

    That's really a dealbreaker for you?! Good luck to you in winter in this country then!

    For me, smoking is my only hard and fast dealbreaker. I'm pretty open-minded otherwise.

    I know silly but true


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    children.

    i dont want children of my own,, and i have no interest in anyone else's children.

    to be perfectly honest, i wouldnt go out with a man who had kids.

    i know this may rule out a lot of potentially great guys, but imo, it's a risk i'm willing to take.

    children are not going to figure in my life, end of story.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 96 ✭✭Polleta


    Deal breakers for me:

    Not wanting children

    Wanting to live in the middle of city

    smoking

    Lack of respect for each other

    Cheating


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I would be similar to sam34, I really don't want kids. Not at the moment anyway and while I'll never say never, as things and me may change but I really can't see them in my life. Don't get me wrong I like kids and actually I generally get on very well with them, which throws some women("but why dont you want your own"? etc). I just feel it wouldnt be fair to someone with a child for me to be with them.

    Cheating, emotional or physical. Actually the former would throw me more than the latter.

    Dictatorial Irish mammies tm in training need not apply. If ya wanna order someone around join the army.

    Big difference in sexual drive to me or women who use sex as a bargaining tool. The latter a major deal breaker. Sex is not a rare commodity so someone thinking it is and using that as leverage, really doesn't fly with me.

    Someone who gets too comfortable in a relationship and lets it all hang out and stops making the effort. "I love you, warts and all" is a compliment not an excuse for you to actually live that.

    Selfcenteredness and hypocrisy my two biggies. In fact I could reduce any list of dealbreakers to just those two as all of the above(with the notable exception of the children one) figure those in the mix.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    There are things which I can comprimise on and some that I never will.
    Tbh it's a slippery sloope once you shift your boundaries.


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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 13,425 ✭✭✭✭Ginny


    Not wanting children.
    Dishonesty in any aspect of the relationship, also not acknowledging withholding the truth is also being dishonest.
    Meanness.
    Gambling.
    Being Selfcentered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 196 ✭✭dreamlogic


    Lying - especially about feelings - is my dealbreaker. If you love or care about someone it should reflect in your actions. It bothers me when someone says something like 'I love you' and then no sooner have they said it but they're doing something to completely contradict this! I don't know, better never to hear the words 'I love you', get flowers etc. but to have a loving relationship instead!

    As for the kids thing, I don't really see kids in my future.. Don't see myself getting married either tbh. So if the guy starts going on about marriage/kids this kinda gets to me a bit! Not a dealbreaker though necessarily unless it becomes one for him, obviously.

    Another thing is we have to be best friends, or close enough. A guy who has difficulty with being close friends, communicating, sharing some same interests, activities etc. is probably one I wouldn't want to be with for any length of time anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Elle Victorine


    A man who served in any army abroad etc. not because it's abroad just I would have no time for that kind of anguish..will he be killed, won't he be killed, being left alone for months and years on end.

    A man with kids...a big no. I hate kids.

    Cruelty to animals or a general dislike of dogs. There's something wrong with a man who hates dogs.

    these are just general deal breakers.


    As regards boundaries....well if it was physical and a guy gave me hassle I'd dump him for being such a dope. If it was a privacy issue and it was invaded well lets just say I've learned from a prior experience not to trust a man who questions the motives of a woman's privacy as something sordid and dishonest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 570 ✭✭✭Salome


    I'm surprised by the number of people on here who don't want kids - I thought I was one of a minority! It's not that I don't want any - I just can't imagine me having any tbh.

    My dealbreaker is lack of respect and consideration for others. If my man showed little respect for people, it's quite possible that he would have little respect or consideration for me.

    It's a bit of a cliché but beware of men who are rude to waiters/waitresses. That's the type I'm on about.


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    RoxyHart wrote: »
    My question is what are your boundaries? What would the consequences be if a partner were to cross them...would you leave and not look back, give a warning, stay friends etc...?? Would you be willing to compromise your boundaries to enable the relationship to continue?


    If I was commited to a life partnership, I would do whatever I could to facilatate holding a relationship together from my side. But the gesture would have to be reciprocrated. And things like sexual or violent crime would be complete no way, no how right offs.

    At any other stage, I would walk away....probably 6 months after I realised I should. But definitely and finally.

    What are those boundaries, choosing to impact my life greatly and negatively through cowardice, cheating, intentional creulty, manipulative and controling behaviour, alcoholism and not being there for me when I need him.

    I think staying friends with someone helps you keep them in perspective, so you move on and heal quicker. At least for me it does.
    But then I've never really been treated badly by a boyfriend.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    If she puts the salad cream in the fridge........... gpod damm that get right up my noise ;)......
    Any act of looking at my emails mobile phone or other personal things...
    Manors if she rude or unfair etc restarunts etc.... bossy women, religion I know this may seem a sensitive subject but I don't want my kids being brain washed with stupid religions, I am not speaking for them its there choice....
    Attitude.......

    and lots of things that other dudes have said....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Elle Victorine


    Salome wrote: »
    I'm surprised by the number of people on here who don't want kids - I thought I was one of a minority! It's not that I don't want any - I just can't imagine me having any tbh.

    My dealbreaker is lack of respect and consideration for others. If my man showed little respect for people, it's quite possible that he would have little respect or consideration for me.

    It's a bit of a cliché but beware of men who are rude to waiters/waitresses. That's the type I'm on about.


    No I completely agree with this. If I see people being ****ty to people in the service industry at all I get very uncomfortable. My mother was a maitre dee (lord the spelling mistakes) in some french restaurant for years and she said she dealt with her fair share of pigs and I think it is really a reflection of a person's character. A job is a bloody job like and it's not something to belittle or take advantage of.

    As for the kid thing I just can;t imagine myself tollerating them or being a good mother ever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭Dinkie


    Salome wrote: »
    I'm surprised by the number of people on here who don't want kids - I thought I was one of a minority! It's not that I don't want any - I just can't imagine me having any tbh.

    +1.... sums me up completely!!!! I'm scared i'd loose or break them....

    Deal breakers for me are:

    Cheating
    Lack of intelligence (or stupidity)
    No sense of humour
    Guys that show a lack of respect
    A guy that drinks every night of the week

    I just to think height was important (tall enough to wear heels with)... but i've been converted ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,503 ✭✭✭✭jellie


    i used to have a few.. but then i fell in love. things that used to be dealbreakers were forgiven. its v easy to say "oh i wouldnt tolerate XXX" but when youre in the situation where you love someone & something happens you often dont see it in the same way.

    in saying that, i shouldve just copped the f*ck on & stuck to my original ideas :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    sar84 wrote: »
    i used to have a few.. but then i fell in love. things that used to be dealbreakers were forgiven. its v easy to say "oh i wouldnt tolerate XXX" but when youre in the situation where you love someone & something happens you often dont see it in the same way.

    in saying that, i shouldve just copped the f*ck on & stuck to my original ideas :rolleyes:

    This is true, which is why I would never have been able to define the features I "wanted" in a boyfriend. I can only identify the features in him that I love.

    Having said that I thinking that the following would almost definitely be deal-breakers:

    Changing his mind and wanting kids
    Suddenly "finding god"
    Cheating


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    sar84 wrote: »
    i used to have a few.. but then i fell in love. things that used to be dealbreakers were forgiven. its v easy to say "oh i wouldnt tolerate XXX" but when youre in the situation where you love someone & something happens you often dont see it in the same way.

    in saying that, i shouldve just copped the f*ck on & stuck to my original ideas :rolleyes:
    Over the years I've learned to train myself to disconnect even if I'm in love or getting that way. Disconnect enough to see the reality of what's what. It's easy(for me it was anyway) to get caught up with falling in love and not see the danger signs. Took some doing, but I see them now. Sometimes I feel its a pity I can't jump in with wild abandon, but experience, sometimes bitter experience has taught me not to. In some ways I envy those who can still do that.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 428 ✭✭ciagr297


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Over the years I've learned to train myself to disconnect even if I'm in love or getting that way. Disconnect enough to see the reality of what's what. It's easy(for me it was anyway) to get caught up with falling in love and not see the danger signs. Took some doing, but I see them now. Sometimes I feel its a pity I can't jump in with wild abandon, but experience, sometimes bitter experience has taught me not to. In some ways I envy those who can still do that.
    any tips you have on disconnecting in this way are welcome (at least by me)...
    :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭Censorsh!t


    First and foremost, cheating(emotional, physical, any kind), dishonesty.

    A 'macho' man... it's something I really can't stand, I hate when people will do something, purely to look more masculine. I hate when they feel expressing how they feel isnt manly enough for them.

    Someone who disrespects my beliefs.
    But for some beliefs, they have to agree with me.

    A 'lady's man'. I want a person all to myself. I'm too easily jealoused to deal with a womaniser.

    Also, I would prefer someone to not want kids really badly...it's something i just don't really want, and I would hate to feel pressured into it just to please someone. I would consider adoption, and it would also be great if they werent against that.

    Someone who's less inteeligent than me...I like them to be equal.

    Like dreamlogic, being best friends with a partner is definitely a must for me. Being more than just a girlfriend to them is important.

    As for boundaries, I try to stay at a safe enough distance, I don't like to gush out my feelings to someone, and definitely not if i don't know how they feel toward me. I don't like to let myself seem too fragile. Only when the other person lets me know how they feel, will I let my feelings out.

    All that being said, my mind could sway...but more than likely not.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,152 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    :D it's not easy I must say. You have to really look at the person. There are some "tricks" though. Look at how they treat women(or men in my case) they're not romantically interested in. See how they are with them. Are they dismissive, rude or generally nice and polite? Because that's how they'll treat you after the honeymoon love bit is over. Have the actual mates of the opposite sex? Look at how they react to problems that may arise. Are they in control of their emotions in general? that kinda thing.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭hepcat


    "A man with kids...a big no. I hate kids.

    Cruelty to animals or a general dislike of dogs. There's something wrong with a man who hates dogs."

    So there's something wrong with hating dogs but its ok to hate kids? :confused:

    It is interesting the number of people who really don't want to have children. I would love to know your age profile, and I do not mean this in any negative or condescending way.

    Dealbreakers for me are infidelity and dishonesty, also the inability to change...everyone can go wrong but if they refuse to change thats bad.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    hepcat wrote: »
    "A man with kids...a big no. I hate kids.

    Cruelty to animals or a general dislike of dogs. There's something wrong with a man who hates dogs."

    So there's something wrong with hating dogs but its ok to hate kids? :confused:

    It is interesting the number of people who really don't want to have children. I would love to know your age profile, and I do not mean this in any negative or condescending way.

    Ah, you mean the old "ah, you'll want kids when you get older" line :rolleyes:

    I'm 31, I'm not changing my mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭hepcat


    Malari wrote: »
    Ah, you mean the old "ah, you'll want kids when you get older" line :rolleyes:

    I'm 31, I'm not changing my mind.

    Well...sort of, as in does your biological clock and brooding hormones take over at say, 35-39? Or is that a myth?

    I'm not against people not wanting kids, by the way. If anything, I admire their being independent and responsible, rather than just doing something because its always been done that way..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 704 ✭✭✭Lobelia Overhill


    hepcat wrote: »
    It is interesting the number of people who really don't want to have children. I would love to know your age profile, and I do not mean this in any negative or condescending way.

    I'm in my mid 40s. Not only do I not like children (I especially loathe teenagers), I have medical problems [or the physical variety] and could potentially end up paralysed, or at the least severely crippled by any pregnancy/childbirth situation.

    I wouldn't say "no" to a man who already has children, as long as he's not been tomcatting around and has no idea how many there are!

    I do (and have) said "no" to men who are mad after having kids of their own - on the other hand I've been dumped because I don't want/can't have kids.

    Height. I'm tall and will not date a man who is significantly shorter than me.

    Facial hair. It's called pogonophobia, look it up!

    Any man who hates cats. I don't mean someone who's frightened of or allergic to, but the sort of person who'd run over a cat on the road cos he hates them that much.

    Smoking, heavy drinking, any form of drug [aside from prescribed obviously] - I've seen the effect these things can have on a relationship (smoking being bad for your health!)

    Lying. Can't stand liars. Cheating is bad, but the lying about it is even worse.

    I'm not particularly bothered about some one reading my emails, texts, etc ...

    Lack of respect. Big big no-no. If I say "no" to something then you respect my decision and don't try wheedling to get your own way.

    Soccer fans. I grew up in a house full of them and cannot tolerate that bloody attitude, bad mood for days cos team lost, hyper hysterical cos team won. I don't get like that over the sports I follow!

    The remote control for the television is mine. Not yours. Mine. Got that?!

    Aw feck it, I'll stick to being single, everything else is too much like hard work!! LOL


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,072 ✭✭✭SeekUp


    As I've always told my OH: don't cheat on me, don't hit me, and don't lie to me; everything else, we can try to work through. Any of the above equals immediate packing for him . . . foot is down on that.

    (As a side note, his deal breaker is narcotics abuse!)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Kids are a dealbreaker for me too, I've no intention of ever having any. (I'm 24 btw)

    Dishonesty and infidelity are dealbreakers too.

    Religion, particularly when taken to extremes, can be a dealbreaker too. I don't think I could have a lasting relationship with someone who was very religious.


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