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IELTS exam

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  • 07-05-2009 5:38pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭


    Hello all,

    I have to take the IELTS (English) exam as part of my skilled migrant visa. I'm searching on the internet for sample exams but all I'm finding are sites that require payment for sample tests or advertisements.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction? Also, if you have any experience in taking these exams, please feel free to share. Thanks.

    K


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    Finally found somewhere -

    http://www.englishonline.org.cn/en/exams-work

    Might be of use to someone else


  • Registered Users Posts: 339 ✭✭myhorse




  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Norinoco


    Have mine coming up in August. Know a few people have done with no prep and flew through it so not too worried but would be nice to have an idea what to expect, don't fancy waiting another 4 months for a test date!
    Where are you doing yours?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    Norinoco wrote: »
    Have mine coming up in August. Know a few people have done with no prep and flew through it so not too worried but would be nice to have an idea what to expect, don't fancy waiting another 4 months for a test date!
    Where are you doing yours?

    Haven't booked my test yet. I was warned that in fact many english speaking people actually FAIL these exams. And it would be foolish just to jump in with no preperation, especially when they cost around €180!!

    K


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭rebel333


    I did it in feburary, easy peasy,a waste of our time to do it. Had to do it for the skilled visa though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Norinoco


    kkelly77 wrote: »
    Haven't booked my test yet. I was warned that in fact many english speaking people actually FAIL these exams. And it would be foolish just to jump in with no preperation, especially when they cost around €180!!

    K

    Trust me, its the 4 months waiting around for the feckin test that would drive me crazy, not the money. Its only fraction of the money I have spent on visas in this country.
    I'm not taking the preperation lightly, but having looked at sample tests and spoken to people that have done and passed the test, there is really very little extra we can do for this test.
    Reckon you should get your registered for a test as soon as possible if your thinking about it, the tests for the 22nd Aug in Sydney are nearly already full.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    Are there any reasons someone would choose the Acedemic test over the General Training test? Looks like my nearest date to book is June 4th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 davem75


    Quick Question - Is it neccessary to complete the English test if you are an Irish Passport holder.

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    davem75 wrote: »
    Quick Question - Is it neccessary to complete the English test if you are an Irish Passport holder.

    Thanks

    Yes you may have to if you don't have enough points for your visa application. I'm in the same situation. Only have 90 out of 100.

    K


  • Registered Users Posts: 347 ✭✭Norinoco


    kkelly77 wrote: »
    Yes you may have to if you don't have enough points for your visa application. I'm in the same situation. Only have 90 out of 100.

    K

    100?? What visa are you applying for?
    Going for the Skilled independent visa myself and you need 120.

    General Training is a prep course for the Academic Exam. Its the Academic Exam your after for the visa.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,673 ✭✭✭kkelly77


    Norinoco wrote: »
    100?? What visa are you applying for?
    Going for the Skilled independent visa myself and you need 120.

    General Training is a prep course for the Academic Exam. Its the Academic Exam your after for the visa.

    Skilled Migrant Visa - state sponsored (sub class 176)


  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭Legend100


    Has anyone ever done the test. Could be handy to get the 10 extra points for the skilled visa

    Would you have to do any preparation for it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭rebel333


    I've done the test for extra points, it's very simple if English is your first language. No prep needed..


  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭dap75au


    If you are looking to get the bonus points by scoring high on the IELTS I would definitely reccomend doing a bit of study on the letter and essay writing section of the test. There is a set layout that they are looking for that you mightn't be aware of if you don't do your homework. I found a few good tutorials on youtube. Don't think I would have got the points without looking at these vids. Everything else in the test is a piece of piss. Was quite funny the oral exam where I had to talk to an examiner for 10 minutes to show my fluency in English. Good luck though, do a little bit of preparation and you'll be fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Ozeire


    Not a good sign if you have to take an english test to just get extra points. Surely your skills on skilled visa will give you nearly all the points .


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    for someone with little work experience e.g 1-2 years gets you no points.
    score high in ielts and you can earn 20 points.


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭gaoife


    Hi Guys

    Sorry for the hijack but does anyone know how long it takes to get the skilled migration visa?
    I was hoping to apply after my whv but it says on the website it'd be a few years, does anyone have first hard experience with waiting times?

    Thanks

    :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭bigbadcon


    The skills assessment takes about 12 weeks (was for me from ACS)

    Ive heard the 175 visa application can take anywhere from 6-18 months or possibly more.

    Im doing the IELTS this saturday and will straight away apply for the visa assuming I get at least a score of 7 of course ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭duke916


    Ozeire wrote: »
    Not a good sign if you have to take an english test to just get extra points. Surely your skills on skilled visa will give you nearly all the points .

    Not a good sign? how so?

    all occupations are graded differently on points. they range from 50-65 points as far as i can recall. my occupation was 55 points and was short just 5 points to go through. look on various aussie migration forums and you'll see this is the most common problem...the shortfall of just 5 points, therefore you have to pay 185euro to complete the exam and pass it adding 25 points to your tally.

    ive applied for the GSM 175 skilled migrant 5 year temp residency visa in May 2009 and still waiting for a response from immigration to complete my medical. This visa in particular is hardest to obtain and takes the longest, 2 to three years im told by my agent. But in my opinion its the best choice of visa as it gives you free reign to work to any company in any state. Unlike sponsorship which can be terminated at any time by your employer or state sponsorship which restricts where you want to go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    duke916 wrote: »

    all occupations are graded differently on points. they range from 50-65 points as far as i can recall. my occupation was 55 points and was short just 5 points to go through.
    .

    You must have an occupation on the Skilled Occupation List

    Trade=10 points
    Bachelor or Master Degree=15 points
    PhD=20 points

    IELTS 6 across the board= 0 points
    IELTS 7 across the board= 15 points
    IELTS 8 across the board= 20 points
    duke916 wrote: »



    ive applied for the GSM 175 skilled migrant 5 year temp residency visa in May 2009 and still waiting for a response from immigration to complete my medical. This visa in particular is hardest to obtain and takes the longest, 2 to three years im told by my agent. But in my opinion its the best choice of visa as it gives you free reign to work to any company in any state. Unlike sponsorship which can be terminated at any time by your employer or state sponsorship which restricts where you want to go.

    175 is Permanent not Temporary as you can stay permently but the visa itself only lasts 5 years before you require a RRV

    ENS Sponsorship is permanent, your employer can't terminate your visa.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 113 ✭✭duke916


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    duke916 wrote: »

    all occupations are graded differently on points. they range from 50-65 points as far as i can recall. my occupation was 55 points and was short just 5 points to go through.
    .

    You must have an occupation on the Skilled Occupation List

    Trade=10 points
    Bachelor or Master Degree=15 points
    PhD=20 points

    IELTS 6 across the board= 0 points
    IELTS 7 across the board= 15 points
    IELTS 8 across the board= 20 points
    duke916 wrote: »



    ive applied for the GSM 175 skilled migrant 5 year temp residency visa in May 2009 and still waiting for a response from immigration to complete my medical. This visa in particular is hardest to obtain and takes the longest, 2 to three years im told by my agent. But in my opinion its the best choice of visa as it gives you free reign to work to any company in any state. Unlike sponsorship which can be terminated at any time by your employer or state sponsorship which restricts where you want to go.

    175 is Permanent not Temporary as you can stay permently but the visa itself only lasts 5 years before you require a RRV

    ENS Sponsorship is permanent, your employer can't terminate your visa.

    Actually if you want to stay over the five years you can apply for citizenship after three years. its recommended you stay in the country for at least two of those years consistanly.

    Granded rules and points have altered since i applied but the reason for completing the ielts test remains the same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    duke916 wrote: »
    Actually if you want to stay over the five years you can apply for citizenship after three years. its recommended you stay in the country for at least two of those years consistanly.

    That's absolutely incorrect you can stay in Australia permanently with just Permanent residency and citizenship is not required.

    To qualify for citizenship you need to be living in Australia legally for 4 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,240 ✭✭✭hussey


    gaoife wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Sorry for the hijack but does anyone know how long it takes to get the skilled migration visa?
    I was hoping to apply after my whv but it says on the website it'd be a few years, does anyone have first hard experience with waiting times?

    Thanks

    :)

    Any where between 4weeks and 2 years, it all depends on a bunch of variables, none of which you have supplied


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭gaoife


    Thanks for the replys

    I'm heading to oz on the 5th oct and just was just looking into options after the 1 yesr is out thats why i didn't give any specifics :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭bigbadcon


    Ok so I did the test today...

    It was more difficult than I was expecting but Id say i got at least 8 out of 10 with no study done at all.

    It can be tricky enough at parts and Id say if you had any issues writing essays and coming up with ideas under the pressures of an exam environment you could find it difficult enough.

    Even the speaking part was tricky enough and I was asked to comment on some weird subjects. eg..how do you think the irish media compares to the media in other countries?? :-)

    Overall id say if you did english in school up to leaving certificate level you will breeze through this exam. If your english is at a lower level you may struggle at the essay sections and some of the multiple choice ones were difficult enough where more than one answer seemed to make sense and they were only expecting one.

    One piece of advice I would give is to pay attention during the listening as the answers they are looking for can come out in quick succession and if your not careful you'll miss them.

    If anyone has any questions on the exam format Id be happy to answer.

    BTW I only booked this exam on tuesday and did it today in CES on dame street in dublin so there didnt seem to be any waiting list at all..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    All I would say is prepare for it, I know French people who have done quite badly on the French equivalent of IELTS.

    It's very important that you know what you're expecting.

    I would actually suggest contacting an English language school.

    E.g. : http://www.ucc.ie/en/esol/


  • Registered Users Posts: 507 ✭✭✭bigbadcon


    Got my results back..

    I got 8.5 out of 9 without any study done at all.Here was my break down.

    Listening 9/9
    Reading 7/9
    Speaking 9/9
    Writing 8.5/9

    The reading section I found confusing where you had to match headings with paragraphs.. sometimes more than one answer made sense....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    bigbadcon wrote: »
    Got my results back..

    I got 8.5 out of 9 without any study done at all.Here was my break down.

    Listening 9/9
    Reading 7/9
    Speaking 9/9
    Writing 8.5/9

    The reading section I found confusing where you had to match headings with paragraphs.. sometimes more than one answer made sense....

    Nice 20 points


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,683 ✭✭✭zweton


    anyone know how long the ielts is valid for once you sit it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 317 ✭✭jockey#1


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Nice 20 points

    No I don't think so as I recently found out myself :mad: You need to get at least 8 in ALL four components to get 20 points. You get 10 points for at least a 7 in ALL four components, anything less than that and it 0 points!


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