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Inistioge NBS coverage: First look.

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  • 08-05-2009 1:11pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭


    The Inistioge electoral division is live apparently, so I took the electoral division boundary from the 3 NBS viewer and overlayed it on the 3 broadband coverage viewer at 3km resolution level.

    The central bounded area is the the one in question: ED 97050. So assuming that their coverage map is up to date; the dark brown area is the claimed NBS residential coverage.

    Its possible that the map also includes older technologies. Ie it may not all be iHSPA.
    If someone had the An Post geo-directory it might be possible to see if they were at or near 92% coverage.

    Light Brown - Coverage outdoors
    Dark Brown - Coverage indoors
    Black - No Coverage

    (excuse primitive photoshop skills.)

    79346.jpg


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    An ED is supposed to be 95% population coverage or it is not 'covered' at all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Outdoor coverage is irrelvent for NBS. People sit indoors to use computer.
    The so-called range extenders are indoor and no better than a desk at the window. :(

    So light brown and black = No NBS coverage.

    The Light Brown is mobile Phone coverage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭crawler


    As SB correctly says - it is POPULATION that matters not land mass....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭clohamon


    I'm thinking their coverage map probably isn't up to date.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    Well all the 3 coverage maps I have seen hugely overstate coverage.


    Though at least the ratio between Indoor and Outdoor looks beleivable. Irish/ European 3G/W-CDMA/HSPA (at 2.1GHz) is basically an Outdoor technology.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 mike0001


    Does three supply new modems for use in the NBS "Broadband" areas - or are you just
    give the existing Huawai modems (Assuming service is cellular and not part of the 8% satellite offering)


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    I'd imagine it's just whatever 3G/HSPA modem they would be currently selling.

    It's just 3G/HSPA. Nothing different to existing network. It's using existing networking in some BNS areas and using new rollout (which by their licence HAS to be part of their existing 3G voice/data network).

    3 get no new licence. All services they supply under the NBS have to fit existing licence. VSAT (satellite) is licence exempt. You only need a licence for a Hub/earthstation, which 3 won't have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭cowboy1981


    clohamon wrote: »
    The Inistioge electoral division is live apparently, so I took the electoral division boundary from the 3 NBS viewer and overlayed it on the 3 broadband coverage viewer at 3km resolution level.

    The central bounded area is the the one in question: ED 97050. So assuming that their coverage map is up to date; the dark brown area is the claimed NBS residential coverage.

    Its possible that the map also includes older technologies. Ie it may not all be iHSPA.
    If someone had the An Post geo-directory it might be possible to see if they were at or near 92% coverage.

    You can look at the detailed OS maps on
    http://ims0.osiemaps.ie/website/publicviewer/main.aspx?id=&utype=&ecom=S1&user=

    As far as I know, every house is shown on these maps. If someone has the patience, they should be able to count them. Perhaps it includes ruins, but statistically, these might be distributed evenly reducing the net impact? Looking at Inistioge, it looks like the only areas of full "indoor coverage" are up on the hills near the base stations. The more heavily populated area in the valley near the village is definitely not covered. The bulk of the region is light brown - "outdoor coverage".

    Without counting actual houses, it looks like 30% might be totally without any coverage, <10% with full coverage, and 60% with "outdoor coverage". If one assumes that a further 30% of the outdoor coverage is unsuitable (even with Nextivity repeaters), then around 50% would have no coverage, and would require satellite. This would seem to be totally outside the requirements for NBS, but may be an opportunity for significant numbers of rural dwellers to see if they can sign up for subsidised satellite?

    Purely my own guesses from looking at the OS map - other estimates welcome please?


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    The Nextivity go INDOORS
    They make little impact.

    An outdoor POE router with 3G Modem and panel aerial pointing at mast on Chimney WOULD give perfect "indoor" coverage in even poor outdoor aerials. But that is not what the Nextivity does.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    3's sat solution doesn't exist yet.

    They'd have to install someone else's solution


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  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭bugfreebob


    watty wrote: »
    The Nextivity go INDOORS
    They make little impact.
    That's why I'm assuming that they will be only 70% effective. This is probably over generous in favour of the Nextivity repeater, but nevertheless, even with this generous assumption it proves that the % of customers meeting the NBS requirements on a good night would be <50%. That's before contention, cell-breathing etc kick in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭clohamon


    The coverage map has been updated.

    Colour codes as before.

    Light Brown - outdoors
    Dark Brown - indoors
    Black - No Coverage


    79864.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭clohamon


    Three have introduced an amber colour for EDs that are due to go live shortly.
    Inistioge is one of these, and so is not yet live according to their website.
    If the area in which you live is shaded Red, it means that your address is in a National Broadband Scheme coverage area but the service launch date is not yet scheduled. An Amber shading means your address is covered under the National Broadband Scheme and service will be available in the coming weeks. A Green shading means your address is in a National Broadband Scheme coverage area and the network is already live. Grey shading means that your address is not in a National Broadband Scheme coverage area.

    http://ve.bizmaps.ie/threeireland/Pages/Public/NBSPublicPage.aspx


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