How do you feel about downloading music?

97i9y3941

theres a bizzare loophole in ireland,when the artists come here to perform,they do not pay tax,unlike the rest of europe

Pygmalion

Can't afford CDs so I download.
If I could afford CDs I'd probably buy them for the novelty of actually having a physical copy, even if all I really do it browse the artwork that accompanies and rip to FLAC.

I'm aware I could download as FLAC but it's rare to find music in that quality without spending a lot of time looking, and I'd far prefer to have the physical copy anyway.

97i9y3941

local record shop near me is offering people to trade in their cds/dvds for cash...

ciansgirl

I love buying CD's of Artists i really love lik Miley Cyrus and The Jonas Brothers but other artists that i might only like a couple songs i dont c the point in spending money on the intire album!! waste of money really!!:p:p

Professey Chin

ciansgirl wrote: »

I love buying CD's of Artists i really love lik Miley Cyrus and The Jonas Brothers but other artists that i might only like a couple songs i dont c the point in spending money on the intire album!! waste of money really!!:p:p

............................ehhhh.......................I see

tolosenc

If I'm recommended a song/album/artist/band/etc. I'll use Frostwire to see if I like it. I'll buy the CD if I do.

Torrents are also good for hard-to-find albums, but these tend to have few seeds.

Enid.

I like the idea that if you wanted to see what an artist or an album was like, you *could* download it off the bay or something. Not condoning anything but...

I also think there's nothing anyone can do about it, as long as there's internet there's going to be illegal downloads.

97i9y3941

sometimes its just pure bollix acting from the record companies and their lawyers that make people to turn to illegal downloads,for instance,some dvd boxsets of tv shows would be missing a certain track or scene because it featured a copyright thing so people might download the one from torrent site that was broadcasted in its orginal form on tv,othertimes its just the movie/album is out of print,for instance the beatles final movie "let it be" is out of print,it cant be got anywhere legally...

loveissucide

I download due to being a cheapskate.Plus living in Letterkenny I can never find what i wat to listen to.

tolteq

li@mo wrote: »

You might want to add.....without paying........to your above post

i must be a dumbass. dont get it.

Pygmalion

tolteq wrote: »

i must be a dumbass. dont get it.

There are ways to legally download music online, for a price, OP's post originally didn't mention that he was talking about downloading music for free (as in, illegally)

That said, there's tons of ways to legally download free music as well, such as Jamendo, but generally only for smaller, independent bands.

Pygmalion

Teutorix wrote: »

LOL "Jamendo" i can rape there servers with a tiny piece of javascript, i can get any song that they have with out paying.

<snip> Watch the abuse</snip> ANYONE can get any song they have without paying, that's the whole point, they have clearly labelled download links on every band/album page, and also have a bit-torrent tracker should you prefer to torrent the album rather than use the direct download link they provide.
Sorry if you feel less special now.

Teutorix

Pygmalion wrote: »

ANYONE can get any song they have without paying, that's the whole point, they have clearly labelled download links on every band/album page, and also have a bit-torrent tracker should you prefer to torrent the album rather than use the direct download link they provide.
Sorry if you feel less special now.

woops i was thinking of magnatune lol


I tend to get the two mixed up

Pygmalion

Teutorix wrote: »

woops i was thinking of magnatune lol


I tend to get the two mixed up

Can't say I haven't gotten them mixed up myself.

Dj Stiggie

BitTorrent ftw

Who doesn't love free stuff?

Teutorix

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

BitTorrent ftw

Who doesn't love free stuff?

μtorrent is much more reliable and stable

JC 2K3

Bittorrent is a protocol.....

Jonathan

Dj Stiggie wrote: »

BitTorrent ftw

Who doesn't love free stuff?

Teutorix wrote: »

μtorrent is much more reliable and stable

JC 2K3 wrote: »

Bittorrent is a protocol.....

May have just been crossed wires.

I think Dj Stiggie was refering to the protocol and Teutorix refering to the client.

<snip> no linking to illegal download sites please</snip>

Teutorix

yeah, i think we all got a little mixed up there lol

KnifeWRENCH

No more linking to illegal download sites or torrents, please!

Jonathan

Knife-WREEENCH wrote: »

No more linking to illegal download sites or torrents, please!

What illegal download sites?

Teutorix

Jonathan wrote: »

What illegal download sites?

somebody posted a link to a site that rips mp3s from myspace

Jonathan

Teutorix wrote: »

somebody posted a link to a site that rips mp3s from myspace

Why was my post snipped then?

Teutorix

Jonathan wrote: »

Why was my post snipped then?

Dunno, bittorrent's site is neither illegal or a download site

Stev_o

Teutorix wrote: »

Dunno, bittorrent's site is neither illegal or a download site

But it facilitates the ability to download internet files that can be copyrighted material which is illegal.

Jonathan

Stev_o wrote: »

But it facilitates the ability to download internet files that can be copyrighted material which is illegal.

ZOMG!!!!1111eleven

Lets get rid of portable harddrives. It can be used to facilitate the transmission of copyrighted material.

Get a grip.

Bittorrent, as a protocol, is ingenious. It is NOT illegal.

Pygmalion

Are you guys serious, yes it's possible to download music/films/games using bittorrent clients.
It's also used to download tons of legal stuff, and many people, such as me, use it for these purposes.
I'm kind of shocked that linking to the BitTorrent site was considered to be linking to an "illegal download site or torrent".

Stev_o

I guarantee that illegal downloads>legal downloads in bittorrent.

Jonathan

Stev_o wrote: »

I guarantee that illegal downloads>legal downloads in bittorrent.

So what?

Still doesn't mean it should be banned.

Stev_o

Jonathan wrote: »

So what?

Still doesn't mean it should be banned.

Hmm because therefore the chances are extremely high that when it is being linked it's intended purpose was to aid people in downloading illegal files.

Your not telling me someone posted a link in the How do you feel about downloading music? to help them download legal files such as massive patches to a game are you? Seems a bit out of place wouldn't you agree?

Brian

Stev_o wrote: »

Hmm because therefore the chances are extremely high that when it is being linked it's intended purpose was to aid people in downloading illegal files.

Your not telling me someone posted a link in the How do you feel about downloading music? to help them download legal files such as massive patches to a game are you? Seems a bit out of place wouldn't you agree?

Linking to a website which contains both legal and illegal files does not really implicate the linker. They aren't compelling the person to whom they have given the link to break the law, even if their actions have presented that opportunity. A person gives someone directions to a nightclub. At this nightclub some people are dealing drugs, but not everyone. Is the person who gives directions culpable for the people dealing drugs?

Stev_o

Baza210 wrote: »

Linking to a website which contains both legal and illegal files does not really implicate the linker. They aren't compelling the person to whom they have given the link to break the law, even if their actions have presented that opportunity. A person gives someone directions to a nightclub. At this nightclub some people are dealing drugs, but not everyone. Is the person who gives directions culpable for the people dealing drugs?

So you still think then that the poster who linked it had different intentions other then supply information for people to illegally download music in a thread about that very subject?

Jonathan

Stev_o wrote: »

Hmm because therefore the chances are extremely high that when it is being linked it's intended purpose was to aid people in downloading illegal files.

Your not telling me someone posted a link in the How do you feel about downloading music? to help them download legal files such as massive patches to a game are you? Seems a bit out of place wouldn't you agree?

Na, I'm helping others to listen to legal music, for example, music from the south by southwest festival.
I'm also impartial to a bit of Nine Inch Nails.

Do you understand how bittorrent works? Do you see why is advantagous over other protocols such as http?


It is also a nice feeling giving something back to Open Source community.




You want to ban all of this?

You MONSTER! :eek:

Brian

10kb upload? Feeling generous today, are you?

Jonathan

Baza210 wrote: »

10kb upload? Feeling generous today, are you?

Unlimited up. Not many peers today.

Brian

Stev_o wrote: »

So you still think then that the poster who linked it had different intentions other then supply information for people to illegally download music in a thread about that very subject?

If you want to be pedantic, this thread's subject is about Downloading Music, not specifically Illegally Downloading Music. The OP does state that it is illegal, but I hope that their perceptions have been since righted. There's plenty of music out there available to download perfectly legally and freely.

Stev_o

Baza210 wrote: »

If you want to be pedantic, this thread's subject is about Downloading Music, not specifically Illegally Downloading Music. The OP does state that it is illegal, but I hope that their perceptions have been since righted. There's plenty of music out there available to download perfectly legally and freely.

And where can you legally download music using bittorrent then.

Brian

Umm, bittorrent tracker websites that have links to freely released music?

Jonathan

Stev_o wrote: »

And where can you legally download music using bittorrent then.

Selective reading?

Jonathan wrote: »

Na, I'm helping others to listen to legal music, for example, music from the south by southwest festival.
I'm also impartial to a bit of Nine Inch Nails.

Stev_o

Jonathan wrote: »

Selective reading?

All coming from a site that is extremely biased towards pro torrent downloading.

Jonathan

Stev_o wrote: »

All coming from a site that is extremely biased towards pro torrent downloading.

No shit.
Look at the name of the fucking site....


I doubt you are going to find much about rapidshare downloads on a torrent site... :rolleyes:

bella21

if its something i really want then i wouldn't mind paying. but if i wasn't really bothered either way then i wouldn't see i problem with it because....
If you didn't really want it, and so didn't pay you may not know what you're missing and find out you do like it. So the artist gets their music out there. They may not have gotten any money for it, but if you like it you may decide to get some of their back catalogue/future music.
IMO anyway.

KnifeWRENCH

A few links have been deleted because there are complicated legal issues. Even if the site itself is legal, it is used to facilitate illegal downloading, and to the best of my knowledge the general policy on Boards is to not allow links to sites which could be associated with piracy/torrents/illegal downloads.

You can still discuss these sites but for now I'm asking you not to link to them.

Now please get back on topic.

RHRN

Look at sig to view my stance :P

I'm definitely pro-downloading. If I like the album, I'll buy it. Same for movies etc.

JC 2K3

Knife-WREEENCH wrote: »

A few links have been deleted because there are complicated legal issues. Even if the site itself is legal, it is used to facilitate illegal downloading, and to the best of my knowledge the general policy on Boards is to not allow links to sites which could be associated with piracy/torrents/illegal downloads.

You can still discuss these sites but for now I'm asking you not to link to them.

Yup, Boards policy. I don't agree with it, but I didn't make the rule...

blubloblu

Back on topic (sort of).
Pirate Party got a seat in the European Parliament with more Swedish under 30s voting for them than any other party.
I think it's clear what most young people think.

RHRN

blubloblu wrote: »

Back on topic (sort of).
Pirate Party got a seat in the European Parliament with more Swedish under 30s voting for them than any other party.
I think it's clear what most young people think.

They'll get 2 if the Lisbon Treaty comes into effect.
I think they got 3rd or 4th Among 30-40 also.

MooseJam

I think it's great, I was in HMV there recently and they were having a sale - 25% off woo and I'm thinking if they were giving it away free I still wouldn't take any - just dust collectors.

TazPenny

Looking for somebody to come on radio on the national broadcaster to give their views and opinions on pro illegal downloading? Any chance?

Piste

I'm sure you'll find loads here only too willing to give their opinions.