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Mary Lou McDonald: the most annoying person in Irish politics

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭RedPlanet


    jimmmy wrote: »
    No need; suffice to say that to many people it is still morally acceptable that a political party should sell ""IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website", as another poster put it. No other party in the EC glorifies such terrorist violence.
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    Nobody else in the "EU"?
    Hmm, i guess they didn't get bragging rights.
    It must be neat living in that world of yours where everything fits into such convenient little boxes where one is labeled "good guys" and the other, "bad guys". Black and White. :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    RedPlanet wrote: »
    Nobody else in the "EU"?
    ok ...no other political party in the EU who sells "IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website", as another poster put it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭RedPlanet


    jimmmy wrote: »
    ok ...no other political party in the EU who sells "IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website", as another poster put it.
    So what? They missed out on bragging rights i guess.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    so you think there is still a link...all the more reason in most peoples minds not to vote for them so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭futurehope


    Erin Go Brath said:
    Absolute drivel of the highest order!

    Who exactly are Mary-Lous victims for a start? I'd be very interested to know if you could enlighten me on this one. :rolleyes:

    She stands as a representative of a 'party' that has amongst it's leadership unrepentant IRA members, an organisation responsible for the deaths of thousands of people and the mutilation of thousands more. She can no more stand aloof from that than a pen pusher in the Third Reich could dissociate himself from The Holocaust.
    You have to ask yourself the question why do the majority of nationalists in the north vote for SF. If they were such horrible baby eating scumbags as you seem to suggest do you really think they could get 26%+ of the northern electorate where the vast majority of the troubles occured to vote for them?

    Yes, Northern Nationalism's support for The IRA (particular in working class areas) was always well noted by all. It certainly made Loyalist paramilitary targeting easier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭futurehope


    ardmacha wrote: »

    There is no doubt that the PIRA were more efficient than the jokers in the UVF so bigger in that sense.

    I don't recall The Irish finding The UVF so amusing in Dublin in 1974.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭futurehope


    FTA69 said:
    The IRA were indeed a far larger and more sophisticated organisation than the UVF and of course this was also the case when it came to fundraising, the main difference being that IRA members never really personally profited from it.

    Did they not? I can think of one ex-chief of staff who certainly did. At least one.
    And sectarian murder? Wasn't Ervine and Lenny Murphy in the same organisation?

    Wasn't McGuiness and those who carried out The Kingsmill massacre in the same organisation?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    FTA69 wrote: »
    junder wrote: »



    I never said Dawn Purvis was a member of the UVF, I said she was in the PUP which is inextricably linked with the UVF. Now you can hide behind all the bluster you want, but that fact remains the same.



    What has that got to do with the fact the PUP is the political wing of the UVF?



    The IRA were indeed a far larger and more sophisticated organisation than the UVF and of course this was also the case when it came to fundraising, the main difference being that IRA members never really personally profited from it. Loyalist armed groups on the other hand, are notoriously up to their neck in drugs and extortion; such to the point where the PUP could barely scrape a vote in the Loyalist working-class areas they claim to represent.



    The difference being I'm not a complete hypocrite and I'm prepared to say I agreed with the armed struggle and provide my reasons for doing so. Likewise I don't shy away from any issue. You on the other hand are trying to tell us the PUP practically never even heard of the UVF.



    The difference again being the IRA weren't gangsters or criminals, and were prepared to fast to the death to demonstrate that to the world over; something members of Loyalist groups never had the commitment to assert when political status was removed. And sectarian murder? Wasn't Ervine and Lenny Murphy in the same organisation?

    At no point did i deny that the UVF were involved in crimanlty, all paramiltary groups were including your beloved PIRA, anybody living in belfast during the troubles would know that. However I asked you to substanuate your claim that the UVF were bigger crimanls then the PIRA and by substanuate i mean provide imperical proof and not the 'bluster' of your last post.
    FYI the PUP is not the political wing of the UVF we have only an advisory role, the actual political wing of the UVF was our predecessor the Voluteer Party however elements within the UVF did not want to have any direct political input in the group so the Voluteer party was disbanded. Fortuntly there were people within the Volunteer Party such as David Ervine that belived that only a poltical solution would end the sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland and they went on to form the PUP, just abit of history for you ceasefire soldiers and armchair freedom fighters out there


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭junder


    ardmacha wrote: »
    Like all Shinners she is big on complaining and vague on solutions.



    Yiu are right. They should abolish the border and call their bluff.



    There is no doubt that the PIRA were more efficient than the jokers in the UVF so bigger in that sense.

    Yes they were more efficient at murdering people and blowing them up, hardly something to boast about .


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭fixieboy


    I was disgusted at the way she tried to turn her attendance into a gender issue. I didn't hear any other candidate mention her maternity leave as a reason for her poor attendance yet she accused all of them of persecuting her for having a child.

    I enjoy political debate but I always turn off the radio when she's on. She bully's her way through all group interviews and pushes the easiest buttons every time...helping the poor, reforming the system, nationalising the banks....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    futurehope wrote: »

    Yes, Northern Nationalism's support for The IRA (particular in working class areas) was always well noted by all. It certainly made Loyalist paramilitary targeting easier.

    Supporting loyalist death squads again?
    fixieboy wrote:
    . I didn't hear any other candidate mention her maternity leave as a reason for her poor attendance yet she accused all of them of persecuting her for having a child..

    They didn't mention it because it explains her attendance record.
    fixieboy wrote:
    helping the poor, reforming the system,..

    "the horror.......the horror...."


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭teednab-el


    still though SF and all, if she came into my house, I'd give her my number 1 :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    teednab-el wrote: »
    still though SF and all, if she came into my house, I'd give her my number 1 :p

    Even though her party still sells ""IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website" ( as another poster put it ) , so she seemingly condones an organisation which sometimes went to other peoples houses to dose out death ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    jimmmy wrote: »
    Even though her party still sells ""IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website" ( as another poster put it ) , so she seemingly condones an organisation which sometimes went to other peoples houses to dose out death ?

    You've quoted that line five times now. Having trouble thinking for yourself lately?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    jimmmy wrote: »
    Even though her party still sells ""IRA Undefeated" t shirts and other such tasteless terrorism memorabilia through their official website" ( as another poster put it )?

    Hmmmm, deep.
    jimmmy wrote: »
    , so she seemingly condones an organisation which sometimes went to other peoples houses to dose out death ?

    Dig deep enough and nearly every party condones violence at some point in time. Now we can accept that - which is rather different from pretending it didn't happen - and move on, addressing policies and the like, or sit around talking crap about t-shirts. Funny enough, the DUP and the like are at least making an effort, as are Sinn Fein.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,539 ✭✭✭jimmmy


    Nodin wrote: »

    Dig deep enough and nearly every party condones violence at some point in time.
    No they do not, and few if any others ( in the EU at any rate, which is the region we are talking about ) sell t-shirts and other memorabilia glorifying terrorist actions from the relatively recent past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    jimmmy wrote: »
    No they do not, and few if any others ( in the EU at any rate, which is the region we are talking about ) sell t-shirts and other memorabilia glorifying terrorist actions from the relatively recent past.

    More t-shirt based commentary. Still unwilling to move on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    Just to change the direction of the thread a little what has McDonald ever done in her political career?

    Her record of attendance (by her own admission) for committee meeting, votes in Brussels is pathetic but I think the thing that most annoys me about Mary Lou, that fact that she doesn't seem to do anything annoys me the most. But I'm sure a few of here devotes here might be able to enlighten me as to what she's actually achieved in her role as an MEP.

    Oh and another thing that bugs me about her is she completely missed the point of the of the Sinn Fein Westminster MP scandal where they creamed 500,000 pound sterling off hard working tax payers in expenses.

    I don't give a **** how much of a wage SF MPs draw and ML seems to think the fact that tax payers money went in to the SF coffers instead of into their own hands it's still a huge huge waste of tax payers money.

    £500,000 for five MPs who don't take their seats?? Feck off, Brian Cowen spends more time in London and he doesn’t seem to need to rent a house year round in London, buy entertainment systems etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,205 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    See poost 46


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    See poost 46

    My dear dub that post doesn’t even remotely justify why SF needed to spend £500,000 of tax payers money, my money to continually rent a house (three times over the going rate to an Irish family) and buy expensive entrainment systems in a city they visit less than other Irish politicians who don't need to spend hundreds of thousands of pounds to do.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/5301510/MPs-expenses-Sinn-Fein-claimed-500000-for-second-homes.html

    But god loves a tryer.

    Also what exactly has the wonderful Mary Lou achieved in her role as a MEP.

    Except a pretty pathetic 56% attendance record

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28111

    Compared with Gay Mitchell's 88% it really puts her input into perspective.

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28112


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Souljacker wrote: »

    Did Gay Mitchell have a baby in 2006?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    Nodin wrote: »
    Did Gay Mitchell have a baby in 2006?


    The record is from 2004 to the present day, even if McDonald didn't attend for 12months that doesn't account for such a huge difference.
    56% to 88% . That's a difference of 32%

    Sorry my friend 12 months service doesn't nearly account for a 32% difference over 5 years (unless your using some sort of maths unknown to mankind).

    But to give her the benifit of the doubt lets take her attendance from 2008.

    Mary Lou McDonald:

    1. 14/01/2008 Strasbourg
    2. 15/01/2008 Strasbourg
    3. 16/01/2008 Strasbourg
    4. 30/01/2008 Brussels
    5. 19/02/2008 Strasbourg
    6. 20/02/2008 Strasbourg
    7. 10/04/2008 Brussels
    8. 21/04/2008 Strasbourg
    9. 22/04/2008 Strasbourg
    10. 23/04/2008 Strasbourg
    11. 07/05/2008 Brussels
    12. 24/06/2008 Brussels
    13. 07/07/2008 Strasbourg
    14. 08/07/2008 Strasbourg
    15. 09/07/2008 Strasbourg
    16. 22/09/2008 Brussels
    17. 23/09/2008 Brussels
    18. 08/10/2008 Brussels
    19. 09/10/2008 Brussels
    20. 20/10/2008 Strasbourg
    21. 21/10/2008 Strasbourg
    22. 22/10/2008 Strasbourg
    23. 23/10/2008 Strasbourg
    24. 17/11/2008 Strasbourg
    25. 18/11/2008 Strasbourg
    26. 19/11/2008 Strasbourg
    27. 03/12/2008 Brussels
    28. 16/12/2008 Strasbourg
    29. 17/12/2008 Strasbourg
    30. 12/01/2009 Strasbourg
    31. 13/01/2009 Strasbourg
    32. 14/01/2009 Strasbourg
    33. 02/02/2009 Strasbourg
    34. 03/02/2009 Strasbourg
    35. 04/02/2009 Strasbourg
    36. 10/03/2009 Strasbourg
    37. 11/03/2009 Strasbourg
    38. 23/03/2009 Strasbourg
    39. 24/03/2009 Strasbourg
    40. 25/03/2009 Strasbourg

    Gay Mitchall

    1. 14/01/2008 Strasbourg
    2. 15/01/2008 Strasbourg
    3. 16/01/2008 Strasbourg
    4. 17/01/2008 Strasbourg
    5. 31/01/2008 Brussels
    6. 18/02/2008 Strasbourg
    7. 19/02/2008 Strasbourg
    8. 20/02/2008 Strasbourg
    9. 21/02/2008 Strasbourg
    10. 10/03/2008 Strasbourg
    11. 11/03/2008 Strasbourg
    12. 12/03/2008 Strasbourg
    13. 13/03/2008 Strasbourg
    14. 09/04/2008 Brussels
    15. 10/04/2008 Brussels
    16. 21/04/2008 Strasbourg
    17. 22/04/2008 Strasbourg
    18. 23/04/2008 Strasbourg
    19. 24/04/2008 Strasbourg
    20. 08/05/2008 Brussels
    21. 20/05/2008 Strasbourg
    22. 21/05/2008 Strasbourg
    23. 22/05/2008 Strasbourg
    24. 04/06/2008 Brussels
    25. 05/06/2008 Brussels
    26. 16/06/2008 Strasbourg
    27. 17/06/2008 Strasbourg
    28. 18/06/2008 Strasbourg
    29. 19/06/2008 Strasbourg
    30. 24/06/2008 Brussels
    31. 08/07/2008 Strasbourg
    32. 09/07/2008 Strasbourg
    33. 10/07/2008 Strasbourg
    34. 01/09/2008 Brussels
    35. 02/09/2008 Brussels
    36. 03/09/2008 Brussels
    37. 04/09/2008 Brussels
    38. 22/09/2008 Brussels
    39. 23/09/2008 Brussels
    40. 24/09/2008 Brussels
    41. 25/09/2008 Brussels
    42. 08/10/2008 Brussels
    43. 09/10/2008 Brussels
    44. 20/10/2008 Strasbourg
    45. 21/10/2008 Strasbourg
    46. 22/10/2008 Strasbourg
    47. 23/10/2008 Strasbourg
    48. 17/11/2008 Strasbourg
    49. 18/11/2008 Strasbourg
    50. 19/11/2008 Strasbourg
    51. 20/11/2008 Strasbourg
    52. 03/12/2008 Brussels
    53. 04/12/2008 Brussels
    54. 15/12/2008 Strasbourg
    55. 16/12/2008 Strasbourg
    56. 17/12/2008 Strasbourg
    57. 18/12/2008 Strasbourg
    58. 12/01/2009 Strasbourg
    59. 13/01/2009 Strasbourg
    60. 14/01/2009 Strasbourg
    61. 15/01/2009 Strasbourg
    62. 02/02/2009 Strasbourg
    63. 03/02/2009 Strasbourg
    64. 04/02/2009 Strasbourg
    65. 05/02/2009 Strasbourg
    66. 18/02/2009 Brussels
    67. 19/02/2009 Brussels
    68. 09/03/2009 Strasbourg
    69. 10/03/2009 Strasbourg
    70. 11/03/2009 Strasbourg
    71. 12/03/2009 Strasbourg
    72. 23/03/2009 Strasbourg
    73. 24/03/2009 Strasbourg
    74. 25/03/2009 Strasbourg


    Oh dear, Oh dear Oh dear would you like me to work out the percentage difference between 74 and 40 or would you be in agreement with me that it’s quite substantial?

    I think Gay Mitchall was quite right to call McDonald's attendance at the EP pathetic. It annoys me that Mary Lou thinks’ it's justifiable to ignore her MEP job to such an extent but I look forward to hearing you explain her way out of this one.

    Source: European Parliament website (attendance list).

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28112

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28111


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    Im still waiting to hear what she actually does.


    Anyone look at videos of her on youtube.
    Then look at the photos.

    They airbrush those ugly wrinkles that she has across her forehead :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 523 ✭✭✭Mark1916


    Souljacker wrote: »
    The record is from 2004 to the present day, even if McDonald didn't attend for 12months that doesn't account for such a huge difference.
    56% to 88% . That's a difference of 32%

    Sorry my friend 12 months service doesn't nearly account for a 32% difference over 5 years (unless your using some sort of maths unknown to mankind).

    But to give her the benifit of the doubt lets take her attendance from 2008.

    Mary Lou McDonald:

    1. 14/01/2008 Strasbourg
    2. 15/01/2008 Strasbourg
    3. 16/01/2008 Strasbourg
    4. 30/01/2008 Brussels
    5. 19/02/2008 Strasbourg
    6. 20/02/2008 Strasbourg
    7. 10/04/2008 Brussels
    8. 21/04/2008 Strasbourg
    9. 22/04/2008 Strasbourg
    10. 23/04/2008 Strasbourg
    11. 07/05/2008 Brussels
    12. 24/06/2008 Brussels
    13. 07/07/2008 Strasbourg
    14. 08/07/2008 Strasbourg
    15. 09/07/2008 Strasbourg
    16. 22/09/2008 Brussels
    17. 23/09/2008 Brussels
    18. 08/10/2008 Brussels
    19. 09/10/2008 Brussels
    20. 20/10/2008 Strasbourg
    21. 21/10/2008 Strasbourg
    22. 22/10/2008 Strasbourg
    23. 23/10/2008 Strasbourg
    24. 17/11/2008 Strasbourg
    25. 18/11/2008 Strasbourg
    26. 19/11/2008 Strasbourg
    27. 03/12/2008 Brussels
    28. 16/12/2008 Strasbourg
    29. 17/12/2008 Strasbourg
    30. 12/01/2009 Strasbourg
    31. 13/01/2009 Strasbourg
    32. 14/01/2009 Strasbourg
    33. 02/02/2009 Strasbourg
    34. 03/02/2009 Strasbourg
    35. 04/02/2009 Strasbourg
    36. 10/03/2009 Strasbourg
    37. 11/03/2009 Strasbourg
    38. 23/03/2009 Strasbourg
    39. 24/03/2009 Strasbourg
    40. 25/03/2009 Strasbourg

    Gay Mitchall

    1. 14/01/2008 Strasbourg
    2. 15/01/2008 Strasbourg
    3. 16/01/2008 Strasbourg
    4. 17/01/2008 Strasbourg
    5. 31/01/2008 Brussels
    6. 18/02/2008 Strasbourg
    7. 19/02/2008 Strasbourg
    8. 20/02/2008 Strasbourg
    9. 21/02/2008 Strasbourg
    10. 10/03/2008 Strasbourg
    11. 11/03/2008 Strasbourg
    12. 12/03/2008 Strasbourg
    13. 13/03/2008 Strasbourg
    14. 09/04/2008 Brussels
    15. 10/04/2008 Brussels
    16. 21/04/2008 Strasbourg
    17. 22/04/2008 Strasbourg
    18. 23/04/2008 Strasbourg
    19. 24/04/2008 Strasbourg
    20. 08/05/2008 Brussels
    21. 20/05/2008 Strasbourg
    22. 21/05/2008 Strasbourg
    23. 22/05/2008 Strasbourg
    24. 04/06/2008 Brussels
    25. 05/06/2008 Brussels
    26. 16/06/2008 Strasbourg
    27. 17/06/2008 Strasbourg
    28. 18/06/2008 Strasbourg
    29. 19/06/2008 Strasbourg
    30. 24/06/2008 Brussels
    31. 08/07/2008 Strasbourg
    32. 09/07/2008 Strasbourg
    33. 10/07/2008 Strasbourg
    34. 01/09/2008 Brussels
    35. 02/09/2008 Brussels
    36. 03/09/2008 Brussels
    37. 04/09/2008 Brussels
    38. 22/09/2008 Brussels
    39. 23/09/2008 Brussels
    40. 24/09/2008 Brussels
    41. 25/09/2008 Brussels
    42. 08/10/2008 Brussels
    43. 09/10/2008 Brussels
    44. 20/10/2008 Strasbourg
    45. 21/10/2008 Strasbourg
    46. 22/10/2008 Strasbourg
    47. 23/10/2008 Strasbourg
    48. 17/11/2008 Strasbourg
    49. 18/11/2008 Strasbourg
    50. 19/11/2008 Strasbourg
    51. 20/11/2008 Strasbourg
    52. 03/12/2008 Brussels
    53. 04/12/2008 Brussels
    54. 15/12/2008 Strasbourg
    55. 16/12/2008 Strasbourg
    56. 17/12/2008 Strasbourg
    57. 18/12/2008 Strasbourg
    58. 12/01/2009 Strasbourg
    59. 13/01/2009 Strasbourg
    60. 14/01/2009 Strasbourg
    61. 15/01/2009 Strasbourg
    62. 02/02/2009 Strasbourg
    63. 03/02/2009 Strasbourg
    64. 04/02/2009 Strasbourg
    65. 05/02/2009 Strasbourg
    66. 18/02/2009 Brussels
    67. 19/02/2009 Brussels
    68. 09/03/2009 Strasbourg
    69. 10/03/2009 Strasbourg
    70. 11/03/2009 Strasbourg
    71. 12/03/2009 Strasbourg
    72. 23/03/2009 Strasbourg
    73. 24/03/2009 Strasbourg
    74. 25/03/2009 Strasbourg


    Oh dear, Oh dear Oh dear would you like me to work out the percentage difference between 74 and 40 or would you be in agreement with me that it’s quite substantial?

    I think Gay Mitchall was quite right to call McDonald's attendance at the EP pathetic. It annoys me that Mary Lou thinks’ it's justifiable to ignore her MEP job to such an extent but I look forward to hearing you explain her way out of this one.

    Source: European Parliament website (attendance list).

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28112

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/members/public/geoSearch/view.do?country=IE&partNumber=1&zone=Dublin&language=EN&id=28111

    And what exactly has Gay Mitchall done in the 74 times he went on holiday to Strasbourg and Brussels? Quality NOT QUANTITY


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,205 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Souljacker wrote: »
    My dear dub that post doesn’t even remotely justify why SF needed to spend £500,000 of tax payers money,

    I am not going to get worked up about the £500k SF claimed on the ACA when they are owed £2m in salaries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    Mark1916 wrote: »
    And what exactly has Gay Mitchall done in the 74 times he went on holiday to Strasbourg and Brussels? Quality NOT QUANTITY

    Since 2008 Gay Mitchall has Produced 2 reports:

    16 March 2009
    Committee on economic and Monetary affairs
    Produced a report on the European bank and the European Bank for reconstruction and development.

    31 October 2008
    Committee on Development
    REPORT on the proposal for a regulation of the European Parliament and of the Council establishing a facility for rapid response to soaring food prices in developing countries

    Posed 48 oral and written questions on behalf of the people of Dublin and Ireland, put forward 2 motions to the house, (on the situation in Gaza and another on the rising food prices in the EU and developing world).

    He’s made 68 speeches.

    Since 2008 Mary Lou’s written no reports, posed 18 questions, put forward 5 motions to the house, and made 44 speeches.

    It doesn’t really compare. But why don't you enlighten me as to what Mary Lou's done to compare with Gay's record.

    Gay Mitchell decided to quit the Dail to focus on the European Parliment, funny I don't remember Mary Lou doing that. Didn't she recently (2007) try and get into Dáil Éireann but fail?

    The thing is if Mary Lou is there so much less than Gay Mitchell how can possibly do the work she elected to do? As someone who actually turns up for my work and on topic I find that annoying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    I am not going to get worked up about the £500k SF claimed on the ACA when they are owed £2m in salaries.

    Why should you get worked up, it's not your money, as a resident of NI it's mine (unless you have a job in Scotland and pay tax that is). I'm glad you can be so blasé about politicians creaming money off the tax payer to such an extent. I wonder do you feel the same about the Labour and Tory MPs in the same situation?


    lol I as a tax payer in the UK owe absentee SF British MPs £2million? Really I'd love to see you prove that.

    In fact I really hope you can prove SF is chasing this money up from the tax payers for work they failed to do. It’d be a really vote winner for them if they do especially given the current economic climate. Please let it be true!!


    Ps you still haven't shown me why Mary Lou McDonald was justified in defending the huge SF expenses bill. But I don't blame you as it really is indefensible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,205 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Souljacker wrote: »
    Why should you get worked up, it's not your money, as a resident of NI it's mine (unless you have a job in Scotland and pay tax that is).

    You are funny, it is more my money than yours considering I have been paying tax since you were a mere child.

    lol I as a tax payer in the UK owe absentee SF British MPs £2million? Really I'd love to see you prove that.

    What do I need to prove? the British Government have decided that SF MPs should not get their salary.
    Ps you still haven't shown me why Mary Lou McDonald was justified in defending the huge SF expenses bill. But I don't blame you as it really is indefensible.

    I would imagine that the ACA claims are part payment for the salary that is denied to their MPs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 121 ✭✭Souljacker


    You are funny, it is more my money than yours considering I have been paying tax since you were a mere child.

    Good for you. That's not an answer. I've every reason to feel aggrieved about SF's waste of my money (and it's just as much my money as yours regardless of your age) Just as Labour and Tory MPs have wasted our money.

    You’re continuing to dodge the question. How can MLM justify the huge amount of tax payers money spent renting properties SF MP's rarely used?? Again I don’t blame you for dodging the question there’s no moral justification.
    What do I need to prove? the British Government have decided that SF MPs should not get their salary.

    I would imagine that the ACA claims are part payment for the salary that is denied to their MPs

    Links my friend, links and sources from reputable websites to Show SF is owed or is chasing up tax payers money to the amount of £2million for back paid salaries for jobs they didn't do to put into the already substantially funded SF political machine?

    Please tell me you can provide me with a link which says SF is demanding £2million off taxpayers to put in to their party. You really would make my day.


    Also the government you're talking about took the decision to not pay absentee MPs democratically. Personally I'd be happy enough with that decision. SF have every right to not take their seats in west minster and put themselves forward to the electorate on that basis but since every SF MP is also an MLA I really fail to see why they're justified in drawing 2 substantial salaries off the backs of tax payers like you and me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 2-D Man


    dave-higgz wrote: »
    Yeah she was painful to listen to. I can't believe she's only attended 65% of debates in the parliament. The other 3 have attended loads more with Gay Mitchell on 92% if I recall. These elections are pretty important if we're to make up with the EU and electing the right people is paramount. I say don't vote Mary Lou McDonald. I think I'd rather have Eoin Ryan!!!

    Perhaps she's only attended that many because unlike the other candidates she had a child during her term????

    She was the only Irish candidate shortlisted for MEP of the year.

    She'll e getting my vote along with Joe Higgins


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