The Gestapo is making a comeback!

Darragh29

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/mcdowell-in-talks-on-shock-return-with-fg-1734270.html

I think this MUST be a wind up!!!

slippy wicket

As a rabid blueshirt i would have to say he is coming back to his natural home.
'If its true , that is'

ninty9er

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/mhkfcwmhcwid

Lemming

TBH, as much as people slate McDowell, he was one of the few politicians that I can recall within the last 15 years who was willing to make hard decisions that were not considered popular but that he considered necessary.

Shame none of FF's senior cabinet over the last 15 years have had even a fraction of that willingness to put necessity before their own political careers otherwise we might have had a country that's not as royally f*cked as it is now.

Joey the lips

When michael mcDowell returns to fine gael it will confirm many things on irish politics to me.

1. The party does not matter
2. Most of the partys have the same idels
3. Its every corrupt politician for himself

Sure watch this space when brien cowen is kicked out of fianna fail he will be finance spokesman for fine gael,

You do have to ask yourself one of 2 questions

1. Are people not really interested in partys ie the local individual is more important

2. Does the other parties like The Greens/Sinn Fein/ Socialist partys operate in poor areas that the voter turn out does not levatate them to higher ranks.

ps: if pat rabbite and eamonn gilmore can do it why cant we ;-)

Pride Fighter

Lemming wrote: »

TBH, as much as people slate McDowell, he was one of the few politicians that I can recall within the last 15 years who was willing to make hard decisions that were not considered popular but that he considered necessary.

Shame none of FF's senior cabinet over the last 15 years have had even a fraction of that willingness to put necessity before their own political careers otherwise we might have had a country that's not as royally f*cked as it is now.

He is a right winger but he has balls. There is no one like him on the left though, we need people with balls on the left, willing to take on the Unions and other vested interests to make Ireland great again.

Good luck to him. He is intellegent, competent, not my cup of tea politically but a lot to admire about him even though he is a right wing neo con, neo liberal type of guy.

tommy249

I see on todays Irish Daily Mail that Michael McDowell is to run in the next general election for Fine Gael. Good idea or mistake?

suckslikeafox

tommy249 wrote: »

Good idea or mistake?

For who, him or FG?

li@mo

tommy249 wrote: »

I see on todays Irish Daily Mail that Michael McDowell is to run in the next general election for Fine Gael. Good idea or mistake?

I think its a good idea if true. I always liked him as a politician. He will lose his friendship with the fianna fáilers though

O'Coonassa

li@mo wrote: »

He will lose his friendship with the fianna fáilers though

He will in my ah, the whole lot of them feckers are jolly backslapping bosom buddies the second a camera's not on them. Don't believe their pantomime.

tommy249

suckslikeafox wrote: »

For who, him or FG?

Who ever you want to comment on. All opinions welcome

Mr.Micro

Nobody would vote for him as he is too egotistical for any party. So if FG are considering him then it will have to be a safe safe seat if any exist. He would want to be the leader after 5 minutes.

Joey the lips

Mr.Micro wrote: »

Nobody would vote for him as he is too egotistical for any party. So if FG are considering him then it will have to be a safe safe seat if any exist. He would want to be the leader after 5 minutes.

I disagree with you on the nobody would vote for him the constitutiants he represented for the PD's thought a lot of him so they might transfere however I agree on the leadership thing. He would def have enda kenny shaking.

It would be a good laugh though

Mr.Micro

Joey the lips wrote: »

I disagree with you on the nobody would vote for him the constitutiants he represented for the PD's thought a lot of him so they might transfere however I agree on the leadership thing. He would def have enda kenny shaking.

It would be a good laugh though

Yes it would liven things up, but it would be like inviting a wolf to join the flock.

wasper

Pride Fighter wrote: »

He is a right winger but he has balls. There is no one like him on the left though, we need people with balls on the left, willing to take on the Unions and other vested interests to make Ireland great again.

Good luck to him. He is intellegent, competent, not my cup of tea politically but a lot to admire about him even though he is a right wing neo con, neo liberal type of guy.

Balls! He didn't even have the decency to bow out in style the last time.
He made more hot air than other politicians.
I think the real reason for re-entering politics is that being a lawyer these days is surplus to requirements.

Joey the lips

wasper wrote: »

Balls! He didn't even have the decency to bow out in style the last time.
He made more hot air than other politicians.
I think the real reason for re-entering politics is that being a lawyer these days is surplus to requirements.

and another pension to go with his first one would be nice!

Breezer

http://www.rte.ie/news/2009/0509/finegael.html

A spokesperson for Fine Gael has said there are no plans to run former PD leader and government minister Michael McDowell as a Fine Gael candidate at the next general election.

He said a newspaper story in today's Irish Daily Mail was speculative and the party would not comment on speculation.

He confirmed however that the party has had recent dealings with Mr McDowell in his role as a senior counsel.

FG are denying it, although as some of the folks on Politics.ie pointed out that it's not the strongest rebuttal that could have been made. I sincerely hope this isn't true. I think it would undo all the good press gained from the George Lee announcement. I also really don't think I could stomach being in the same party as McDowell. I can handle a few PD councillors and Ciaran Canon, it's not like they'll have any influence over policy, but McDowell... I celebrated the demise of the PDs, and it had nothing to do with transfer of votes. I don't want FG resurrecting them.

deadhead13

Micheal McDowell lost his seat not once but three times - 1989, 1997 and 2007. He is not very good at, perhaps a politicals most important role, getting re-elected. His leadership of the PDs only hastened the partys inevitable demise.

Macdowells playing politics with stamp duty started the first wobble in the housing market. His handling of the revelations over Bertie's finances casted him and the PDS in a pathetic light. FG would be well advised to stay clear. He is a failed politician and far too much of divisive figure.

Nodin

Only Libertas would be so desperate as to be tempted to take El Duce in, however.....

wasper wrote: »

Balls! He didn't even have the decency to bow out in style the last time.
He made more hot air than other politicians.
.

He enacted national legislation to garner up his decreasing vote, which really is a bankrupt and sad thing to do.

wasper wrote: »

I think the real reason for re-entering politics is that being a lawyer these days is surplus to requirements.

emm....no, not likely. Senior Counsel, ex minister for Justice, attorney General.....thats always going to be in demand.

johnnyskeleton

Pride Fighter wrote: »

He is a right winger but he has balls. There is no one like him on the left though, we need people with balls on the left, willing to take on the Unions and other vested interests to make Ireland great again.

Joe Higgins perhaps?

Boston

Lemming wrote: »

TBH, as much as people slate McDowell, he was one of the few politicians that I can recall within the last 15 years who was willing to make hard decisions that were not considered popular but that he considered necessary.

Shame none of FF's senior cabinet over the last 15 years have had even a fraction of that willingness to put necessity before their own political careers otherwise we might have had a country that's not as royally f*cked as it is now.

Exactly.

Bottle_of_Smoke

If the government doesn't fall in the next 18 months or so reckon he'll be FG leader for the next GE?

mikemac

He has to join the party and serve his time.
There are many ahead of him in a leadership contest and members wouldn't like to see a new candidate go straight to party leader.

Maybe one day, not in the next few years anyway

deadhead13

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

If the government doesn't fall in the next 18 months or so reckon he'll be FG leader for the next GE?

McDowell??? I don't think so.

Breezer

Bottle_of_Smoke wrote: »

If the government doesn't fall in the next 18 months or so reckon he'll be FG leader for the next GE?

No. I sincerely doubt there's any truth in this story at all.

teednab-el

it would be a mistake for FG. He is not needed in the party and he would only damage FG present poll ratings.

irish_bob

deadhead13 wrote: »

Micheal McDowell lost his seat not once but three times - 1989, 1997 and 2007. He is not very good at, perhaps a politicals most important role, getting re-elected. His leadership of the PDs only hastened the partys inevitable demise.

Macdowells playing politics with stamp duty started the first wobble in the housing market. His handling of the revelations over Bertie's finances casted him and the PDS in a pathetic light. FG would be well advised to stay clear. He is a failed politician and far too much of divisive figure.

being called a divisive figure to me is a compliment , back in 2007 , BERITIE,sm and consensus politics still ruled the roost , things are very different now and thier isnt any money left to buy peace or support be it with unions or anyone else

mcdowell while he wobbled over berites bribes was a victim of being too much of a straight talker and not enough of a populist , traits that effect you greatly in a populist loving country like this but that was then and this is now and i believe we may be mature enough as a people to finally realise that voting in people who smile a lot and tell us what we want to hear wont get us out of the ditch

regarding the suggestion about him becoming leader , while personally i would love to see it , he would be unelectable in this country , hes not cuddily , seen as a nice fella or baschically populist enough , hed be way better than that wally kenny but the man to lead fine gael is ivan yates if only hed make a comeback , with a personable but gutsy politician like yates , fine gael could realistically have a chance to form a goverment without labour

marcsignal

slippy wicket wrote: »

As a rabid blueshirt i would have to say he is coming back to his natural home.
'If its true , that is'

I'd never have taken you for a Rabid Blueshirt slippy wicket

orestes

Will they be wearing genuine Gestapo uniforms? Cos those things are sexy as hell

ninty9er

orestes wrote: »

Will they be wearing genuine Gestapo uniforms? Cos those things are sexy as hell

No they have the quartermaster brushing down the O'Duffy memorobelia as we speak.

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