Is it time for Arsene Wenger to go?

Pepe LeFrits

pokerface_me wrote: »

Thought i'd drag this up again considering my amazing predictions, which were Arsenal winning nothing again, buying nobody of significance and Cesc will ask to leave at the end of the season, i said all this last May and here we are. The cracks are bigging to widen and with your top player adamant to leave where do you all stand on Mr Wenger now.

By the way 90% of you said these things wouldn't happen, its all to predictable with Arsenal under Wenger, would you like next seasons outlook now so you can run to the bookies.

Arsenal not winning anything, what a terribly brave prediction.

I think you'll find you can probably think of at least 1 significant signing if you think hard enough.

Reports of Cesc's adamancy vary. He certainly hasn't handed in a transfer request thus far. Again, Fabregas wanting to return to Barcelona after Arsenal not winning anything is hardly clairvoyant.

... and all of this doesn't necessary mean Wenger has done a bad job.

everdead.ie

Nay

DaPoolRulz wrote: »

To be honest, Wenger has been saying for years that he's preparing Arsenal for the future

My question is, when is that future going to be, or has it already come and gone with a whimper?

I could see an apres match skit on this.
The thing about the future is you never reach it because your always in the present:pac:


He can't keep building teams that are going to be great in a couple of years.
Although just because they could loose fabergas this summer doesn't mean there not going to replace him I can see Wenger doing very well with the 30-50m he could spend on a replacement(s).

pokerface_me

Nay

Still time to save your season yet. 2 years on and he still won't change his way's, how does the song go, same oul Arsenal ........

L'prof

Can a mod just lock this please? Our season won't be saved by getting Wenger and even if it was, at what cost?

Redzer7

L'prof wrote: »

Can a mod just lock this please? Our season won't be saved by getting Wenger and even if it was, at what cost?

+12.

pokerface_me

Nay

L'prof wrote: »

Can a mod just lock this please? Our season won't be saved by getting Wenger and even if it was, at what cost?

It boils down to him, he picks the team, he shows faith in useless players, he see's things nobody else see's. There needs to be a change for Arsenal to progress, he is just to stubborn to change his ways or admit fault. He's building for the future the last decade or so, its a fair question, i personally feel Arsenal would benefit from a change at the helm.

L'prof

pokerface_me wrote: »

It boils down to him, he picks the team, he shows faith in useless players, he see's things nobody else see's. There needs to be a change for Arsenal to progress, he is just to stubborn to change his ways or admit fault. He's building for the future the last decade or so, its a fair question, i personally feel Arsenal would benefit from a change at the helm.

That's simply wrong and if you can't see that, I don't see the point in discussing this any further!

eZe^

It's not Wenger's fault that his team isn't good enough to win trophies when competing against the likes of Chelsea. What he done has been remarkable, take him out of Arsenal's setup and they'll be in a much worse situation imo.

L'prof

eZe^ wrote: »

It's not Wenger's fault that his team isn't good enough to win trophies when competing against the likes of Chelsea. What he done has been remarkable, take him out of Arsenal's setup and they'll be in a much worse situation imo.

The sooner Platini's spend within your means ruling comes in the better. Not just for Arsenal, but football in general!

yahoo_moe

pokerface_me wrote: »

he is just to stubborn to change his ways or admit fault.

Love it. You drag up a thread for the third time and then call Arsene Wenger stubborn...

I didn't see you bringing this up after the Braga match, or the Blackpool match or the CC match the other night. I'm sure you were saying the same then, I must have just missed it.

Anyway, that's the last response you'll get from me. And hopefully from anyone if a mod would maybe lock the thread for being about two years old.

mormank

eZe^ wrote: »

It's not Wenger's fault that his team isn't good enough to win trophies when competing against the likes of Chelsea. What he done has been remarkable, take him out of Arsenal's setup and they'll be in a much worse situation imo.

Whoa whoa whoa..I cant believe you almost got away with this comment. It's not Wenger's fault that his team isn't good enough?? WTF? Who's fault is it then? I understand what you are trying to say here but does this mean that it also wasn't Phil Brown's fault that Hull weren't good enough to compete with the teams around him leading to their relegation last year. Or in fact every other manager before him who failed to compete in whatever league or cup they were in, it wasnt their fault that the other team/s were better!!

mike65

Nay

Wenger should be told, ordered to buy a keeper in January or told to sling his hook. Not to do so would be a dereliction of duty.

flahavaj

Threads like this are a great d*ckhead filter.

#15

This thread will make hilarious bump material in the post-Wenger years, when Arsenal are fighting desperately for a Europa League spot.

L'prof

#15 wrote: »

This thread will make hilarious bump material in the post-Wenger years, when Arsenal are fighting desperately for a Europa League spot.

The work that Wenger's put in should ensure that it doesn't happen!

cson

Sigh, you just knew this would be dragged up.

Should Ancelotti go after losing to Citeh?

Should Ferguson step down after throwing away a 2 goal lead at Goodison?

Should Mourinho be sacked after a poor draw against strugglers Levante?

And so on, so forth.

These threads should be bannable offences imo.

jesus_thats_gre

pokerface_me wrote: »

It boils down to him, he picks the team, he shows faith in useless players, he see's things nobody else see's. There needs to be a change for Arsenal to progress, he is just to stubborn to change his ways or admit fault. He's building for the future the last decade or so, its a fair question, i personally feel Arsenal would benefit from a change at the helm.

Bless!

timetogetfit

eZe^ wrote: »

It's not Wenger's fault that his team isn't good enough to win trophies when competing against the likes of Chelsea. What he done has been remarkable, take him out of Arsenal's setup and they'll be in a much worse situation imo.

They are not only competing against chelsea, if chelsea werent around they still wouldnt have won the league, they have finished behind united in most recent seasons too

flahavaj

cson wrote: »

Sigh, you just knew this would be dragged up.

Should Ancelotti go after losing to Citeh?

Should Ferguson step down after throwing away a 2 goal lead at Goodison?

Should Mourinho be sacked after a poor draw against strugglers Levante?

And so on, so forth.

These threads should be bannable offences imo.

Maybe its reading threads like these thats made Big Sam think he has a shot at the bigtime?:pac:

KaiserGunner

What a nonsense thread. Thats all I have to say.

Carcharodon

Don't even know why I am lowering myself to this thread but ah well.
Arsene Wenger has his faults as a manager and some of his decisions have been questionable but he is without doubt one of the greatest premiership managers ever and has made Arsenal into one of the most successful and competitive teams in England.
I would like to emphasize the competitive part as for me this is very important, Arsenal may not have won as much as they would have liked but they are always in contention for both domestic and European honors.
He not only does this with at times beautiful football but he has managed to do this with a budget and has been extremely responsible with the finances of Arsenal.
For me, Arsene Wenger is Arsenal, obviously he will leave eventually and the club will continue on as clubs always do but I believe he will leave the club in great shape but also with the culture of how a club should be run on and off the field.

DH2K9

Pure and simple the greatest manager of all time.

amacachi

L'prof wrote: »

The sooner Platini's spend within your means ruling comes in the better. Not just for Arsenal, but football in general!

But especially for Arsenal. :pac:

L'prof

amacachi wrote: »

But especially for Arsenal. :pac:

Well yes, for Arsenal under Wenger, this should be most beneficial

Paparazzo

I actually thought it was a joke thread title. If Arsenal got rid of Wenger, it would be the stupidest thing to happen in the world. Ever.

greendom

I think the OP forgot to finish his sentence on the title - it should have ended .......and try and find a decent keeper

smilerf

Nay

As an arsenal fan i personally think its time for him to go

blinding

Wenger needs to give up on these goalkeeping **** and get some new Seaman.

smilerf

Nay

lol good 1

pokerface_me

Nay

Now the season is going pear shaped, 433 and 2 shots on target. Wenger is getting stale and looks very dis-interested......wonder what Martin O' Neill is up to these days, he could get plenty more from this team that what Wenger is getting, also very unusual for Arsenal fans to leave very early and boo thier team off the pitch, is the tide turning. Martin O Neill would make you contenders at the minute your pretenders.

cson

Oh FFS.

Moneymaker

pokerface_me wrote: »

Now the season is going pear shaped, 433 and 2 shots on target. Wenger is getting stale and looks very dis-interested......wonder what Martin O' Neill is up to these days, he could get plenty more from this team that what Wenger is getting, also very unusual for Arsenal fans to leave very early and boo thier team off the pitch, is the tide turning. Martin O Neill would make you contenders at the minute your pretenders.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

you are wrong imo.

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L'prof

pokerface_me wrote: »

Now the season is going pear shaped, 433 and 2 shots on target. Wenger is getting stale and looks very dis-interested......wonder what Martin O' Neill is up to these days, he could get plenty more from this team that what Wenger is getting, also very unusual for Arsenal fans to leave very early and boo thier team off the pitch, is the tide turning. Martin O Neill would make you contenders at the minute your pretenders.

You, your post and your thread are an absolute joke! Martin O'Neill??? Just go away!

flahavaj

O' Neill LOL.

efb

Watch arsenal crash and burn without Arsene and he would be snapped up in a heartbeat

cson

L'prof wrote: »

You, your post and your thread are an absolute joke! Martin O'Neill??? Just go away!

He's quite clearly trolling.

Doesn't like Arsenal/Arsene Wenger for whatever reason and anytime Arsenal lose/draw/don't beat a team by more than 3 he'll drag it up.

I must bookmark this thread to drag up if we beat United/City/Chelsea/Spurs by a couple this season.

efb

MO'N please only Fergie and Jose are better than Arsene IMHO

pokerface_me

Nay

cson wrote: »

He's quite clearly trolling.

Doesn't like Arsenal/Arsene Wenger for whatever reason and anytime Arsenal lose/draw/don't beat a team by more than 3 he'll drag it up.

I must bookmark this thread to drag up if we beat United/City/Chelsea/Spurs by a couple this season.

Its not trolling, you go back through the thread and everything i have said is fact, everything i predicted is happening. Its all too predictable and its only a matter of time before the fans turn and get sick of it.

I've never said a bad word againt Arsenal and take offence to your comment.
I've never said i don't like Wenger, i don't like his management style and tactics. I also take offence to this. No need to tell lies or accuse me of something to hide facts.

Also its all well in good beating the top four, but when you struggle against the bottom four, questions must be asked.

gosplan

pokerface_me wrote: »

Now the season is going pear shaped, 433 and 2 shots on target. Wenger is getting stale and looks very dis-interested......wonder what Martin O' Neill is up to these days, he could get plenty more from this team that what Wenger is getting, also very unusual for Arsenal fans to leave very early and boo thier team off the pitch, is the tide turning. Martin O Neill would make you contenders at the minute your pretenders.

All very true. What Arsenal need as a club is a proper footballing team with a proper football strategy, perhaps one that'll put us 700 million in debt in exchange for a couple of trophies.

cson

pokerface_me wrote: »

Its not trolling, you go back through the thread and everything i have said is fact, everything i predicted is happening. Its all too predictable and its only a matter of time before the fans turn and get sick of it.

I've never said a bad word againt Arsenal and take offence to your comment.
I've never said i don't like Wenger, i don't like his management style and tactics. I also take offence to this. No need to tell lies or accuse me of something to hide facts.

Look, I'm not going to entertain your nonsense by detailing how wrong you are, please feel free to lay an impressive new benchmark in shitetalking with each post of typed diarrhoea you see fit to contribute to your thread.

Enjoy!

gosplan

pokerface_me wrote: »

Also its all well in good beating the top four, but when you struggle against the bottom four, questions must be asked.

Newcastle are in the top four

pokerface_me

Nay

gosplan wrote: »

All very true. What Arsenal need as a club is a proper footballing team with a proper football strategy, perhaps one that'll put us 700 million in debt in exchange for a couple of trophies.

Excuse after excuse. Arsenal have a team right now that could challenge no problem, only player i would try bring in would be a keeper. So the rubbish about debts and money doesn't wash with me. They have a capable squad right now. The people that run the club have Arsenal in the great position they are in finacially not Wenger, if they threw money at him, he would gladly spend it. So you should be thanking other people within the club for the lack of money problems not Wenger, he can only spend what he is given.

pokerface_me

Nay

gosplan wrote: »

Newcastle are in the top four

Not making a point about today, making a point in general, they always struggle against the lesser teams, nobody fears Arsenal, i back the underdog everytime against you and i profit from it.

racso1975

arsene does not need to go and should not even be discussed. However his refusal to buy a goalie and decent centre back needs to be discussed. Arsenal have been crying out for a goal keeper for to long. The purchase of that clown koscienly was a joke. Without knowing when vermalen will be back arsenal will struggle and even then i dont think the centre backs are a top 4 pairing

peabutler

pokerface_me wrote: »

Not making a point about today, making a point in general, they always struggle against the lesser teams, nobody fears Arsenal, i back the underdog everytime against you and i profit from it.

Yeah that's a lie.

racso1975

care to elborate on that insightful post. -
Edit: sorry thought you had replied to my post

peabutler

racso1975 wrote: »

care to elborate on that insightful post

I'm talking to Pokerface saying he makes a profit betting against Arsenal and for the 'small' teams.

NukaCola

racso1975 wrote: »

arsene does not need to go and should not even be discussed. However his refusal to buy a goalie and decent centre back needs to be discussed. Arsenal have been crying out for a goal keeper for to long. The purchase of that clown koscienly was a joke. Without knowing when vermalen will be back arsenal will struggle and even then i dont think the centre backs are a top 4 pairing

The above is Wengers biggest problems. The GK situation is a bit baffling at this stage IMO

gosplan

pokerface_me wrote: »

Excuse after excuse.Arsenal have a team right now that could challenge no problem, only player i would try bring in would be a keeper. So the rubbish about debts and money doesn't wash with me.

What excuse? You seem to be deciding my argument for me. If you're simply here to go through the motions then you should probably just shout in the mirror at yourself.


Of course this Arsenal squad should be beating teams like Newcastle and West Brom.

monkey9

Can this thread not just be locked? I'm sick of it's idiotic appearance every time Arsenal lose a match!!