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d'Oracle

Hanley wrote: »

Strict pressed bodyweight in the gym about 8 months ago.... I figured I'd be able to do a few like, but it was my first time trying them and have seen people complain about how hard they are.

The balance and inversion is a head ****.
I reckon its like doing partial presses from above the head.
In that you are in a better position to press off than you would be if you pressed from the front. If you dig.

Not that I can do em or anything.

Barry.Oglesby

My pressing ability is poor, but I can rattle out a fair few HSPUs. I think it's because it's only a partial for one thing, but also because you can select your shoulder position. When I do them I use a neutral position which might account for a lot.

Hanley

d'Oracle wrote: »

The balance and inversion is a head ****.
I reckon its like doing partial presses from above the head.
In that you are in a better position to press off than you would be if you pressed from the front. If you dig.

Not that I can do em or anything.

Eccentric loading is a factor too, as opposed to the static start if you were doing presses (or at least the first rep of a set).

Edwardius

You can also cheat a lot with them, kipping aside, if you arch your back as you press you're basically getting a couple of inches where you're lifting significantly less than your bw. I could do 10 of them when my press was 55kg. I'd say if you tried to do them in a hollow position the numbers would plummet

Michael 09

Hanley wrote: »

Michael 09 wrote: »

Aren't your FAE's in 7 days??!

Give or take...

The HSPUs required 3 steps from my desk and about 15-20 seconds. I skipped training tonight to study, cut me some slack!!

Are you sitting them too?

Yeah I'm sitting them... Hopefully indicator 1 will be 'the client wants you to bench 100kg'.

Hanley

Michael 09 wrote: »

Yeah I'm sitting them... Hopefully indicator 1 will be 'the client wants you to bench 100kg'.

I just finished an "everything I need to know for the audit elective" checklist. It's 4 bloody A4 pages long. And it's just like 1 line bullet points of things to check and stuff not to forget. Nightmare.

How ya set?

itsallaboutheL

Are ye talkign about proper HSPUs, like away from a wall?

Hanley

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Are ye talkign about proper HSPUs, like away from a wall?

No, of course not!!

itsallaboutheL

Well that's a bit ****

Hanley

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Well that's a bit ****

You know well I'm going to end up doing them eventually so you'd be well advised to sssshhhh.

Michael 09

Hanley wrote: »

Michael 09 wrote: »

Yeah I'm sitting them... Hopefully indicator 1 will be 'the client wants you to bench 100kg'.

I just finished an "everything I need to know for the audit elective" checklist. It's 4 bloody A4 pages long. And it's just like 1 line bullet points of things to check and stuff not to forget. Nightmare.

How ya set?

I'm doing tax elective which is pretty tough too, really detailed.

No idea how I'm set. I've done loads of work so hopefully the indicators click and I do enough to hit the green! You?

Hanley

Michael 09 wrote: »

I'm doing tax elective which is pretty tough too, really detailed.

No idea how I'm set. I've done loads of work so hopefully the indicators click and I do enough to hit the green! You?

FUBAR'd.

Horror show on audit last year, put all my eggs into the core basket and failed that on frickin' tax. I was SO annoyed. I've done more work this year, but feel less prepared

Michael 09

Hanley wrote: »

Michael 09 wrote: »

I'm doing tax elective which is pretty tough too, really detailed.

No idea how I'm set. I've done loads of work so hopefully the indicators click and I do enough to hit the green! You?

FUBAR'd.

Horror show on audit last year, put all my eggs into the core basket and failed that on frickin' tax. I was SO annoyed. I've done more work this year, but feel less prepared

I dunno if you can ever be fully prepared for them cos you need so many things to the front of your mind.

Let's hope we nail them anyway.

Mellor

gymsoldier wrote: »

Anyone tried the Poundstone shake yet?

Chicken blended up in a shake, as drank by Derek poundstone?

TBH, sounds a bit pointless unless you are eatign the same volume of food as Derek Poundstone.

d'Oracle

Mellor wrote: »

Chicken blended up in a shake, as drank by Derek poundstone?

TBH, sounds a bit pointless unless you are eatign the same volume of food as Derek Poundstone.

Or you prefer chicken to whey protein.
Or are lactose intolerant.
Or are strict paleo.

d'Oracle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4Vp5NBoQQ

Discuss.

Brian?

d'Oracle wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4Vp5NBoQQ

Discuss.

Looked a bit high

Edwardius

briankeating wrote: »

Looked a bit high

But he's a good christian and donates to his church. Racist!

Hanley

d'Oracle wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D4Vp5NBoQQ

Discuss.

Donnie Thompson in high squat gift shocker. That's new...

...NAAAAAAAAAAAWT!

gymsoldier

Mellor wrote: »

Chicken blended up in a shake, as drank by Derek poundstone?

TBH, sounds a bit pointless unless you are eatign the same volume of food as Derek Poundstone.

Convenience is a big thing, and the fact that alot of people (including myself sometimes) dont chew their food properly.

I tried it recently, boiled the chicken, blended with cold water, couldnt believe how "chickeney" it smelt and tasted. I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but more chicken taste then eating it normally.

rubadub

Owen_S wrote: »

Are handstand push-ups as hard as a bodyweight press? My 1RM is pretty close to my bodyweight, might have a go at these.

Here is a discussion about the differences between military press and HSPU

http://gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23

Note what most call handstand pushups he calls "headstand pushups", or HeSPU. And what he calls handstand pushups are what most people call full ROM handstand pushups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nomXX1reOc

Skip to 2min23s here (though the rest is good) to see a free standing (no legs on straps) HSPU on rings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1egn6D4T82E

Brian?

Dead Ed wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

Looked a bit high

But he's a good christian and donates to his church. Racist!

Is that the same guy again?

d'Oracle

Hanley wrote: »

Donnie Thompson in high squat gift shocker. That's new...

...NAAAAAAAAAAAWT!

I have to admit, I am a little bit disappointed.
I was hoping it might raise a bit more of your ire.

Hanley

rubadub wrote: »

Here is a discussion about the differences between military press and HSPU

http://gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=23

Note what most call handstand pushups he calls "headstand pushups", or HeSPU. And what he calls handstand pushups are what most people call full ROM handstand pushups.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nomXX1reOc

Skip to 2min23s here (though the rest is good) to see a free standing (no legs on straps) HSPU on rings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1egn6D4T82E

Yar I was talking aabout HeSPUs obvs.

I should probably make some parallettes!

Rubadub, I know you'll have a link for somewhere on how to make them. Care to facilitate?

d'Oracle

briankeating wrote: »

Is that the same guy again?

No.

Hanley

d'Oracle wrote: »

I have to admit, I am a little bit disappointed.
I was hoping it might raise a bit more of your ire.

I don't consider any of that sh*t powerlifting. You may as well link me to a game of slamball and compare it to regular basketball. It's all so american.

Brian?

gymsoldier wrote: »

Mellor wrote: »

Chicken blended up in a shake, as drank by Derek poundstone?

TBH, sounds a bit pointless unless you are eatign the same volume of food as Derek Poundstone.

Convenience is a big thing, and the fact that alot of people (including myself sometimes) dont chew their food properly.

I tried it recently, boiled the chicken, blended with cold water, couldnt believe how "chickeney" it smelt and tasted. I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but more chicken taste then eating it normally.

Sounds disgusting. Would mincing the chicken, frying it and eating it not do the job.

d'Oracle

Arena Powerlifting.

Molly

Just google crossfit homemade parallettes and theres a free journal entry on how to make them. I made a set and then used them about 5 times before I got bored

Hanley

Molly wrote: »

Just google crossfit homemade parallettes and theres a free journal entry on how to make them. I made a set and then used them about 5 times before I got bored

You're not rubadub. But thanks

EDIT: for anyone that's interested - http://library.crossfit.com/free/pdf/13_03_Parallettes.pdf

COH

Hanley wrote: »

I don't consider any of that sh*t powerlifting. You may as well link me to Daz's log ... It's all so american.

FYP

rubadub

Hanley wrote: »

Yar I was talking aabout HeSPUs obvs.

Yeah, I don't like the HeSPU term, just adds to confusion, I would stick the the general consensus, just like describing pullup/chinup as palm away/facing.

Hanley wrote: »

Rubadub, I know you'll have a link for somewhere on how to make them. Care to facilitate?

You can just use blocks either side of you, as no doubt you have seen, like those pylo platforms. However most people find they have more power if they can grip a bar, so an easier version might me using pushup stands on the blocks. Using thin blocks allows you to slowly increase ROM, with your head as the stopping point. I have done negative only HSPU on my stands and you really feel the difference.

Most parallettes I have seen are made using PVC pipe fittings, but from what I have seen these are far more expensive here and people can get them in the US, you may also have difficulty finding thick pipe which is strong enough. Many making them are light gymnasts and I imagine it is easier to get thicker pipe in the US. This is from my sig link
http://celtickane.com/projects/homemade-parallettes/

This was one I liked (needs to be higher of course)

http://www.gymnasticbodies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=415

You could possibly use barbell handles for the handles, going into sturdy blocks and locked in place with the collars.

Imagine this being a wider box, with just 4 U shape cutouts at the top, so you drop both barbell handles into the U shapes, tighten up and away you go.

colman1212

gymsoldier wrote: »

Convenience is a big thing, and the fact that alot of people (including myself sometimes) dont chew their food properly.

I tried it recently, boiled the chicken, blended with cold water, couldnt believe how "chickeney" it smelt and tasted. I know that sounds like an oxymoron, but more chicken taste then eating it normally.

Chicken in a blender with water? Seriously? That's just wrong. What's wrong with a protein shake for god sake!!

Edwardius

colman1212 wrote: »

Chicken in a blender with water? Seriously? That's just wrong. What's wrong with a protein shake for god sake!!

I'm curious about that now!

one thing I was wondering about it, if you don't chew it properly it shouldn't mix with the amylase so it shouldn't digest properly right? Although looking at poundstone it seems that he has digested quite a lot in his time!

d'Oracle

Dead Ed wrote: »

I'm curious about that now!

one thing I was wondering about it, if you don't chew it properly it shouldn't mix with the amylase so it shouldn't digest properly right? Although looking at poundstone it seems that he has digested quite a lot in his time!

I thought Amylase only acted on starch/sugars.

Edwardius

d'Oracle wrote: »

I thought Amylase only acted on starch/sugars.

ah ok, I didn't know that. CHicken shakes for all then!

Hanley

Handstands are tough.

itsallaboutheL

Molly wrote: »

Just google crossfit homemade parallettes and theres a free journal entry on how to make them. I made a set and then used them about 5 times before I got bored

Bring 'em into the gym, I'll get my agility on

g'em

colman1212 wrote: »

Chicken in a blender with water? Seriously? That's just wrong. What's wrong with a protein shake for god sake!!

You mean soup?

colman1212

g'em wrote: »

You mean soup?

A Chicken breast and cold water in a blender. hardly!

g'em

colman1212 wrote: »

A Chicken breast and cold water in a blender. hardly!

Why not? you could throw a bit of cream and salt in there and it would be delicious.


"Chicken Soup for the Lifters' Soul". Could sell millions.

Hanley

g'em wrote: »

Why not? you could throw a bit of cream and salt in there and it would be delicious.


"Chicken Soup for the Lifters' Soul". Could sell millions.

Now you're thinking like a fat person. Not a bodybuilder.

g'em

Hanley wrote: »

Now you're thinking like a fat person. Not a bodybuilder.

Pfft, an off-season bodybuilder.

Molly

L, they barely handle my weight, I can't be responsible for you crashing through the floor into the light shop below :P

rubadub

If you really don't care about the taste you could boil up some turkey mince in a little water, this would cook in no time and then just liquidise it up, if even needed.

Or just whack it in with a can of chicken soup. Turkey mince is really cheap.

If you had cheapo beef mince it could be boiled in water, I expect the fat would layer off to the top, you might need something to hold the meat down and let the fat rise, leave in the fridge and it would solidify and would just come off. Thats if you're worried about fat, some cheap mince is up to 30% fat. Could be kept for frying too.

EDIT: found this on the mince, called "ground beef" in the US if you are searching. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=353x952
I have a big pot so could probably fit 3x800g packs of mince into it. Cheap mince in tesco is €3.69/kg, €2.95 per 800g pack "Typically less than 28% fat." , I will do a small batch first. If I was doing a big batch I could have a colindar over a bucket out the back, after draining pour cold water over to cool it before freezing in bags, then leave the bucket and it should have a layer of fat in the morning which can be picked off and binned.

I hate cleaning up fat from spattered fried mince, so this sounds good, could add back coconut oil if its too dry.

gymsoldier

briankeating wrote: »

Sounds disgusting. Would mincing the chicken, frying it and eating it not do the job.

The first time I drank it, it was hard to hold down. Disgusting? Yeah pretty much.

You'd still have to chew the chicken if you minced and cooked it. The idea behind blending it is that you get 100% digestion. I have faith in the Poundstone shake!

FunkZ

There's no food in the house, so I'm having two cans of Club Orange as my pre squat energy booster!

Mellor

d'Oracle wrote: »

I thought Amylase only acted on starch/sugars.

Turns starch into sugar afaik. It helps the process, but could prob digest without it.

Chickenshake still sounds muck though

d'Oracle

It does.

But like, while I see the point, I think that if you take two or three of us around here (on average) put our diets together, you might hit Poundstones protein requirements.

Perspective folks.

gymsoldier

FunkZ wrote: »

There's no food in the house, so I'm having two cans of Club Orange as my pre squat energy booster!

I wouldnt want to spike my insulin like that before a workout....