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GASMANN

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

That exercise is known as the continental clean. It's a technique used by the savagely strong to safely get extremely heavy weights from floor to overhead. It seems however, that it has been co-opted by the savagely average to get weights part of the way over their heads in as ugly and unsafe a manner as possible, forgoing all considerations about form, biomechanics and safety.

Or just skip my paragraph and say it's Crossfit.

well i might give it a try so, 3 sets of 12 at a light weight or 5x5 and go heavy

Tigger

blah88 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WElh1LVBQyc

You 'mirin?

i'm forever reading that peds grow the traps more than the rest

just saying

Mellor

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

That exercise is known as the continental clean.

Minor issue. But something I was wondering,
Is it actually continental clean. I thought that "clean" was so named because its a smooth, efficient movement. The other option being the continental style favoured by those in mainland europe (on the continent).

Anyway, I just something I was wondering. Obviously the phrase continental clean is highlight that its thwe lift refered to (and not a continental breakfast)

d'Oracle

Mellor wrote: »

Minor issue. But something I was wondering,
Is it actually continental clean. I thought that "clean" was so named because its a smooth, efficient movement. The other option being the continental style favoured by those in mainland europe (on the continent).

Anyway, I just something I was wondering. Obviously the phrase continental clean is highlight that its thwe lift refered to (and not a continental breakfast)

You're probably right.
Wiki would agree anyway and what an excellent bit of reading to start my days procrastination. Continental breakfasts suck.

http://ditillo2.blogspot.com/2009/05/continental-clean-jerk-jim-halliday.html

Barry.Oglesby

Mellor wrote: »

Minor issue. But something I was wondering,
Is it actually continental clean. I thought that "clean" was so named because its a smooth, efficient movement. The other option being the continental style favoured by those in mainland europe (on the continent).

Anyway, I just something I was wondering. Obviously the phrase continental clean is highlight that its thwe lift refered to (and not a continental breakfast)

I think it's continental to distinguish it from the Full Irish/British Clean.

alexsmith

tom hardys traps are like that from constant juicing.he may have been doing pulling excercises which will make his traps grow but hes been juicing so your traps blow up in since.its from the androgen receptors in your delts and traps.makes them grow without training em

Brian?

alexsmith wrote: »

tom hardys traps are like that from constant juicing.he may have been doing pulling excercises which will make his traps grow but hes been juicing so your traps blow up in since.its from the androgen receptors in your delts and traps.makes them grow without training em

Can you back that up with a scientific source ?

Brian?

alexsmith wrote: »

tom hardys traps are like that from constant juicing.he may have been doing pulling excercises which will make his traps grow but hes been juicing so your traps blow up in since.its from the androgen receptors in your delts and traps.makes them grow without training em

Can you back that up with a scientific source ?

MrPain

briankeating wrote: »

Can you back that up with a scientific source ?

The expression of androgen receptors in human neck and limb muscles: effects of training and self-administration of androgenic-anabolic steroids

Histochemistry and cell biology, volume 113, number 1, 25-29

http://www.springerlink.com/content/8nlqw016glqwkbwd/

:pac:

dartstothesea

Maybe it's just people parroting each other but I do seem to see this
juicing = traps stuff a lot.
Whatever the case, he had ridic traps there alright.

Brian?

MrPain wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

Can you back that up with a scientific source ?

The expression of androgen receptors in human neck and limb muscles: effects of training and self-administration of androgenic-anabolic steroids

Histochemistry and cell biology, volume 113, number 1, 25-29

http://www.springerlink.com/content/8nlqw016glqwkbwd/

:pac:

So what the other fella said is kinda true. There are more receptors in your traps, nothing to say they'll grow from juicing and not training though. I still question that part.

Barry.Oglesby

briankeating wrote: »

So what the other fella said is kinda true. There are more receptors in your traps, nothing to say they'll grow from juicing and not training though. I still question that part.

No they will. Would you like some science?

Brian?

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

briankeating wrote: »

So what the other fella said is kinda true. There are more receptors in your traps, nothing to say they'll grow from juicing and not training though. I still question that part.

No they will. Would you like some science?

Yes please.

Barry.Oglesby

Here you go

Plenty of studies out there on steroid use and lean body mass gain in sedentary individuals. I'm being responsible as they're very easily misinterpreted so I don't like posting links to them.

MrPain

briankeating wrote: »

So what the other fella said is kinda true. There are more receptors in your traps, nothing to say they'll grow from juicing and not training though. I still question that part.

I'm by no way saying Hardy didn't work out like the other guy implied but according to this study
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
Those on 600mg of test-e for 10 weeks gained more weight not exercising than those exercising with the placebo.
So yes juicing on its own does cause muscle gain, and one could deduct that due to he higher level of androgen receptors in the traps these would grow at a higher rate.

Barry.Oglesby

MrPain wrote: »

I'm by no way saying Hardy didn't work out like the other guy implied but according to this study
http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199607043350101
Those on 600mg of test-e for 10 weeks gained more weight not exercising than those exercising with the placebo.
So yes juicing on its own does cause muscle gain, and one could deduct that due to he higher level of androgen receptors in the traps these would grow at a higher rate.

That's the most famous one.

Kev M

Meh, hardy's not very big really. Just part of the friday night shrug crew

Brian?

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Here you go

Plenty of studies out there on steroid use and lean body mass gain in sedentary individuals. I'm being responsible as they're very easily misinterpreted so I don't like posting links to them.

Fair enough. I did enjoy the science as well.

Scuba Ste

Mellor wrote: »

Minor issue. But something I was wondering,
Is it actually continental clean. I thought that "clean" was so named because its a smooth, efficient movement. The other option being the continental style favoured by those in mainland europe (on the continent).

Anyway, I just something I was wondering. Obviously the phrase continental clean is highlight that its thwe lift refered to (and not a continental breakfast)

You used to have to clean without the bar touching you so it was lifted 'clean' of the body. Don't know a thing about the continental clean.

Edwardius

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_and_jerk

intarwebz wrote:

a variant movement called the "Continental" (because it was practiced by Germans rather than the British) allowed the lifter to pull the barbell up to his belt, where it could rest. Then with several successive flips, the bar would be moved up the torso until it reached the position for the overhead jerk. The Continental gained a reputation as clumsy, slow, and nonathletic compared to the swift coordinated movement required to lift the bar "clean." Hence, the clean movement was adopted by the early weightlifting federations as the official movement.

Ze Germans are to blame for it! Fun movement though

alexsmith

it is true,look at the science.mind you his deltoids/shoulders did not pop out as much as his traps,so he looks like a ****ing idiot.id hate to have that physique even if he has low body fat.

go to any decent gym and have a look at the guys with kind of rounded puffed up traps and delts...usually their the ones who dont know what pct is,have a wifebeater on and are doing bicep curls everyday.

itsallaboutheL

I for one am all for mutant traps.

alexsmith

big traps look good if you have big delts.otherwise youll look like gail platt going around.like a slanted house lol.

science rules all bitches

cc87

http://tomhardyworkout.net/

the drifter

The Muscle Maximizer was made for those who are dedicated to build muscle, so it is not ideal for weekend warriors or men who exercise half-heartedly. If you are dead serious about learning how to get ripped muscles that demands respect and makes you stand out from the crowd, SMM is certainly right for you.

lol

JJayoo

Just because

d'Oracle

JJayoo wrote: »

Just because

Blatantly On.

rubadub

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Wollwead

200KG snatch:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMGMPmlzhvo&feature=g-vrec

JonnyF

Tom Hardy Diet Tips
Although Tom Hardy did not reveal the complete details of his diet regimen, it is quite obvious how serious he is when it comes to his diet. In a television show, he joked about how he eats anything he wants and leaves his physique down to his workouts with his personal trainer. However, most of his diet is actually made of rice, chicken, and lots of protein shape. He is currently bulking up for Warrior so he could be eating plenty of lean protein to boost the effects of the Tom Hardy workout. He also works out like crazy so he can indulge in ice cream, pizza, and other treats from time to time.

Did not reveal the mammoth amounts of Vitamin S he mixed in with all the pizza and ice cream

deadlybuzzman

Anyone that lifts a reasonable amount can look like that-In those scenes he looks like he has his traps flexed, hes got his head stuck out and his back haunched like hes carrying a bag of coal.
I seen similar comments to these before I watched the film so kept an eye out for it and in the non fight scenes the traps arent particularly obvious, that why I think hes just flexing and probably gave them a pump beforehand

Mellor

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Anyone that lifts a reasonable amount can look like that-In those scenes he looks like he has his traps flexed, hes got his head stuck out and his back haunched like hes carrying a bag of coal.
I seen similar comments to these before I watched the film so kept an eye out for it and in the non fight scenes the traps arent particularly obvious, that why I think hes just flexing and probably gave them a pump beforehand

This.

People don't get that its a movie. What you see on screen adn what you see in realife aren't the same.
Hardy just finished but filing the lastest Batman, he's playing Bane. Some random photos were leasked from set adn some people comment on how he doesn't look at big (for Bane). But this are just phots taken at a distance. The Hardy that ends up on screen will be a monster.

Satanta

It's a great movie. Hardy doesnt look as big or as ripped off screen though, as Mellor suggested. Both lead actors do look in great shape though. An interesting comment in this interview is where Edgerton mentions their training involved "eat lots of food and lift lots of weight". Simples

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ov1rgeBjvic

dave80

Hardy's got hanging shoulders al la arnie, people wit them tend to hav bigger traps than the norm they also make traps look bigger, iam living proof ha

cc87

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUaInS6HIGo

Mauricmo

Cool presentation.

squod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV8h0ttftvc

hooplah

cmyk

As Tom Hardy's been mentioned, I love this clip...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RstefCPs3kU

I f***in love a steak.

Orla K

I went shopping today and went into a few sports shops, I wanted to get runners that I didn't have gel or any soft bit in the heal went into one shop and one one of the people there showed me puma bodytrain and that was after I mentioned something about squats, if I were to try squat in those I'd be on my ass! Walked out of there pretty quick.

I also got a grid foam roller today my back was kinda sore/tight from carrying lots of bags and I used it about half an hour ago, I love it! My back feels so much better it's great. Although it was a bit awkward to use since the cat was trying to stick her head in the hole. (also got a 20% discount on it too!)

Inspector Coptoor

Sports shops arent sports shops.
They are fashion shops that sell popular jerseys, popular footwear and popular casual wear.

If you want anything specific, there's not much point going in to them.

Orla K

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

Sports shops arent sports shops.
They are fashion shops that sell popular jerseys, popular footwear and popular casual wear.

If you want anything specific, there's not much point going in to them.

Yeah but where I am I don't seem to have much of an option (there's f-all decent shops here) I thought I'd look in and see if they had anything, had an excuse to leave all prepared. The shop where I got the foam roller seems to be pretty good, lots of things you wouldn't find it the other (bigger) shop that are useful are than just looks good

dartstothesea

What shop did you get the grid foam roller in?

Edwardius

Careful with your exaggerated kipping muscleups

Orla K

dartstothesea wrote: »

What shop did you get the grid foam roller in?

It was in carlow so probably useless to you. I was just in the place looking for something else when I spotted a normal foam roller and took a chance and asked did he have a grid one. The reason I was in the other shops was to try shop around and see prices(that and other things)

d'Oracle

dartstothesea wrote: »

What shop did you get the grid foam roller in?

I think Physiosupplies have them.

rubadub

Dead Ed wrote: »

Careful with your exaggerated kipping muscleups

On their site they say it is not meant for swings etc in gymnastics, most "fitness" ring sellers say this too. I think I read the forces on rings can be up to 5G on some gymnastic moves, and the rings are rated to 1000lb each, so a 200lb man doing 5G is like 1000lb or 500lb on each ring.

The bigger problem is probably the fatigue cycling effect of high reps. If you kip you can manage more reps and the rings are being subjected to force/no force over and over. If you want to break a bit of plastic or metal coathanger the easy way is to gently bend it back and forward over and over, with minimal effort you will eventually break it, the plastic can slowly heat up and get far weaker.

I think most home users have nothing to worry about, and that rouge company might have a load of new sales of their metal ones!

Barry.Oglesby

Say how about this?

Like every ****ing single gymnastics class in the whole wide frickin world, you have mats beneath the place where you have people doing complex, elevated movements. The gymnastics club around the corner from me have a crash mat under the rings for every single movement, even the most basic ones.

Honestly some of the crap you see in Crossfit really annoys me. I'm not a health and safety freak but the first module of any coaching course you go on is on how to keep your athletes safe from harm.

So now Elite Rings will take a sales hit because some ****wit doesn't know how to properly design a facility, and is using €40 plastic rings.

Morons.

Edwardius

rubadub wrote: »

On their site they say it is not meant for swings etc in gymnastics, most "fitness" ring sellers say this too. I think I read the forces on rings can be up to 5G on some gymnastic moves, and the rings are rated to 1000lb each, so a 200lb man doing 5G is like 1000lb or 500lb on each ring.

Yeah the swings etc were mentioned on the website, but he said the rings were ok for "muscleups", but I'd imagine he wouldn't sell as many elite rings if he said "no high rep crazy-ass plyometric kip-up things".

I was just reminded of..

greg glassman wrote:

If you find the notion of falling off the rings and breaking your neck so foreign to you, then we don't want you in our ranks,"

I wonder if Haas or someone else simulated the effect of thousands of these sharp impacts to see how suitable they were for a commercial facility where they'd see heavy usage or at least have some kind of service life beyond which it'd be unsafe to use them. It shouldn't be too difficult to perform such a test.

token

Hold on a godamn minute here. If I can't rep out kipping muscleups how else will I pretend I'm elite?*

*I'm only half joking, stupid strict muscleups