Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

squod · 24-05-2011 8:39am

I can't figure it out at all. Popped up a s a new vid on the youtube is all I can say.

Hanley · 24-05-2011 9:24am

squod wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzdzJB3foGM

I assume that's from last weeks bodypower expo in the uk.

Benni pulled 1,015lb, which is 460.4kg. Bolton tried to break the record by 0.1kg. That's kinda sad.

Hanley · 24-05-2011 9:24am

Mellor wrote: »

Has he lifted 460.0kg before? I've seen lots of attempts from the last 4 years.

The current record is 460.4kg (1015lbs) I think?

AFAIK Bolton's best is 457.5kg.

dave80 · 24-05-2011 9:51am

Hanley wrote: »

I assume that's from last weeks bodypower expo in the uk.

Benni pulled 1,015lb, which is 460.4kg. Bolton tried to break the record by 0.1kg. That's kinda sad.

Am I right in saying benni did it raw and bolton uses gear?

the drifter · 24-05-2011 9:54am

benni >> bolton

end of

Hanley · 24-05-2011 10:00am

dave80 wrote: »

Am I right in saying benni did it raw and bolton uses gear?

Benni's was raw, yes.

Brian? · 24-05-2011 1:25pm

Hanley wrote: »

Benni's was raw, yes.

How much does gear help with deadlifting?

squod · 24-05-2011 1:35pm

Hanley wrote: »

I assume that's from last weeks bodypower expo in the uk.

Benni pulled 1,015lb, which is 460.4kg. Bolton tried to break the record by 0.1kg. That's kinda sad.

Outside of official meet. Is that even allowed?

Da Za · 24-05-2011 1:35pm

I can't answer this from experience yet but Hanley can.
It really depends on the individual, style of pulling, gear being used- Single or multi-ply etc.

Hanley · 24-05-2011 1:36pm

briankeating wrote: »

How much does gear help with deadlifting?

The better a technical lifter you are, the more it helps.

For me, maybe 5-10kg. For Bolton... I honestly don't know. Somewhere in the region of 20-30kg perhaps? His best raw pull was never that far behind his best equipped.

I always felt much 'healthier' and found recovery from a workout easier if I was training in equipment. So that's certainly a factor too.

Brian? · 24-05-2011 3:05pm

Hanley wrote: »

The better a technical lifter you are, the more it helps.

So the technique is the same regardless of gear, unlike wearing a bench shirt?

For me, maybe 5-10kg. For Bolton... I honestly don't know. Somewhere in the region of 20-30kg perhaps? His best raw pull was never that far behind his best equipped.

I always felt much 'healthier' and found recovery from a workout easier if I was training in equipment. So that's certainly a factor too.

Cheers.

Hanley · 24-05-2011 3:34pm

squod wrote: »

Outside of official meet. Is that even allowed?

Benni pulled his in lb, Bolton pulled in kg. They both selected legal weights, so yup, perfectly fine.

briankeating wrote: »

So the technique is the same regardless of gear, unlike wearing a bench shirt?

There's subtle differences.

cc87 · 24-05-2011 4:17pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8nSHzAE5CQ

COH · 24-05-2011 4:39pm

Hanley wrote: »

There's subtle differences.

The only point of reference I have with regards to equipped lifting is a brief stint in a squat suit, and found that to be far more technical than raw lifting, but the weight was far greater than raw lifts. I've never heard of deadlift suits giving people huge extra poundages, particularly using a conventional stance. Did you find the technical gap between deadlifting raw and equipped to be as great as between raw/equipped squatting?

I always felt much 'healthier' and found recovery from a workout easier if I was training in equipment.

Is that just because the percentage carryover from the equipment was relatively small in proportion to the support the equipment gave you?

Mellor · 25-05-2011 6:32am

the drifter wrote: »

benni >> bolton

end of

After Hanley confirmed boltons best, i found this. I assume it'd still official.

The record for a raw deadlift (a deadlift performed without the aid of a deadlift suit where only a belt is allowed) is 461.3 kg (1015 lbs) by Benedikt Magnússon.

The record for an equipped deadlift (a deadlift performed using a deadlift suit using a standard bar and plates where straps are disallowed) is 457.5 kg (1,009 lb) by Andy Bolton.

Although, 1015 is closer to 461.4lbs
In case people haven't see nit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTF_aseJdS8

squod · 25-05-2011 10:07am

Hummer tyre deadlift. A taller deadlift like. An event that Glenn Ross once held the record for. Benni beaten this year by a few people, Mark Felix & Zydrunas Savickas for example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgOyX-PYjFE

Hanley · 25-05-2011 10:44am

COH wrote: »

The only point of reference I have with regards to equipped lifting is a brief stint in a squat suit, and found that to be far more technical than raw lifting, but the weight was far greater than raw lifts. I've never heard of deadlift suits giving people huge extra poundages, particularly using a conventional stance. Did you find the technical gap between deadlifting raw and equipped to be as great as between raw/equipped squatting?

The technical gap’s much less, but I was never a great technician in a DL suit so that that for what it’s worth.

Is that just because the percentage carryover from the equipment was relatively small in proportion to the support the equipment gave you?

I felt healthier in equipment in general tbh. I know my elbows were basically destroyed last year, but I doubt I could have kept that intensity up raw and kept making progress and remained injury free.

Edwardius · 25-05-2011 1:34pm

Dear gym,
buy these please :P

d'Oracle · 25-05-2011 1:36pm

They look like some sort of mobility aid.

And by mobility I mean old folk getting around, not the new black.

Hanley · 25-05-2011 11:03pm

hXc

Mellor · 26-05-2011 6:17am

squod wrote: »

Hummer tyre deadlift. A taller deadlift like.

Sorry, meant to link this one, had the hummer open too, obvious copied the wrong one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M13EBl_jF0

I love the look on his face afterwards

d'Oracle · 26-05-2011 9:46am

He is 98kg, and totalled third amongst a field of 8 guys at least 30kg heavier than him with no weight classes.

And thats 425 below parallel in single ply.

That's impressive, right?

Hanley · 26-05-2011 9:52am

d'Oracle wrote: »

He is 98kg, and totalled third amongst a field of 8 guys at least 30kg heavier than him with no weight classes.

And thats 425 below parallel in single ply.

That's impressive, right?

I can't see the vid, but who is it? Belyaev?