Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

Mellor · 24-09-2009 3:33am

Should the back of my neck be sore after squats?
Right on the bone that sticks out a little if your bend you head forward (C7

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itsallaboutheL · 24-09-2009 3:38am

Mellor wrote: »

Should the back of my neck be sore after squats?
Right on the bone that sticks out a little if your bend you head forward (C7 )

i know im a little tipsy and all but i don't think it's c7...... but anywhoo it depends on where you're resting the bar obv!! i'm pretty sure you could balance it on the bridge of your nose and it'd probably hurt!!!

Mellor · 24-09-2009 4:09am

Where should I balance it so that it doesn't hurt.
Also, is there any benefit to testing max squat on a plate loaded machine to gauge free weight squat?

edit: This machine actually, http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/v-squat

itsallaboutheL · 24-09-2009 4:12am

Mellor wrote: »

Where should I balance it so that it doesn't hurt.
Also, is there any benefit to testing max squat on a plate loaded machine to gauge free weight squat?

edit: This machine actually, http://us.commercial.lifefitness.com/content.cfm/v-squat

you've been around here long enough to know that answer.

EDIT: rear delts or upper traps... depends on wether there high or low bar squats?

Mellor · 24-09-2009 5:02am

I honest never looking into squats at all.
In general my knowledge of weights is terrbile, I literally have nobody to go through these with me, and the other option is youtube, which is blocked for me. Because of this I've avoided dead-lifts and squats in order to prevent injury.

But i've decided to start doing the,. based on plate loaded machine, I should be able to do 100kg+ but I am wary about putting this on a bar if I'm doing it wrong

itsallaboutheL · 24-09-2009 5:26am

Mellor wrote: »

I honest never looking into squats at all.
In general my knowledge of weights is terrbile, I literally have nobody to go through these with me, and the other option is youtube, which is blocked for me. Because of this I've avoided dead-lifts and squats in order to prevent injury.

But i've decided to start doing the,. based on plate loaded machine, I should be able to do 100kg+ but I am wary about putting this on a bar if I'm doing it wrong

halve whatever weight you use on that.

squod · 24-09-2009 11:17am

Mellor wrote: »

I honest never looking into squats at all.
In general my knowledge of weights is terrbile, I literally have nobody to go through these with me, and the other option is youtube, which is blocked for me. Because of this I've avoided dead-lifts and squats in order to prevent injury.

But i've decided to start doing the,. based on plate loaded machine, I should be able to do 100kg+ but I am wary about putting this on a bar if I'm doing it wrong

There's another website if youtube is blocked for you, it has moving gifs and flash vids instead. Always squat inside the cage.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBFullSquat.html

sfag · 25-09-2009 12:04am

squats and deads to be taken light until your technique feels natural.
Not dangerous at all. Benching is more dangerous imo.

Squating - bar down down back as far as you can place it. usually means below the neck bones and kinda wedged by your hands and top of shoulder blades. The necks not too bad though. Too high and it could pull you forward.

But working out your neck is useful in itself. Check out good mornings. They'll do your neck, abs and hams.

Squat and you'll never need another leg exercise.

Deadlift heavy and you w/o the abs, legs, lower back, traps, delts, forearms, neck, grip and even give the biceps a good stretch. There's probably more. Its the motherload.

Biggest tip - flat feet for both.

brianthebard · 25-09-2009 12:25am

sfag wrote: »

squats and deads to be taken light until your technique feels natural.
Not dangerous at all. Benching is more dangerous imo.

Squating - bar down down back as far as you can place it. usually means below the neck bones and kinda wedged by your hands and top of shoulder blades. The necks not too bad though. Too high and it could pull you forward.

But working out your neck is useful in itself. Check out good mornings. They'll do your neck, abs and hams.

Squat and you'll never need another leg exercise.

Deadlift heavy and you w/o the abs, legs, lower back, traps, delts, forearms, neck, grip and even give the biceps a good stretch. There's probably more. Its the motherload.

Biggest tip - flat feet for both.

Are you doing good mornings with the bar on your neck??

sfag · 25-09-2009 12:56pm

brianthebard wrote: »

Are you doing good mornings with the bar on your neck??

Yes I do - my neck can take it. Not that heavy of a weight.

brianthebard · 25-09-2009 1:27pm

sfag wrote: »

Yes I do - my neck can take it. Not that heavy of a weight.

I don't think that's wise...

arybvtcw0eolkf · 25-09-2009 5:22pm

sfag wrote: »

Biggest tip - flat feet for both.

But I don't suffer with flat feet - what'll I do now?.

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itsallaboutheL · 26-09-2009 12:15am

Life sucks.:(

mdc5065 · 26-09-2009 12:30am

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Life sucks.:(

Why's that

itsallaboutheL · 26-09-2009 12:33am

mdc5065 wrote: »

Why's that

Beats me.:)

squod · 26-09-2009 12:41am

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Life sucks.:(

You gotta be more like your man, he gets all the babes and bi.tches 'cause they know he gotta fat di..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTQ6kGLGubo

keezer · 27-09-2009 6:03pm

My program in the gym was updated this week which now includes weights. And part of the program includes squats and after my 1st day im sore after my work out. It mainly legs upper leg. Is this normal or am i doing somthing wrong.

BossArky · 27-09-2009 9:29pm

Very normal. It is called DOMS - delayed onset muscle soreness.

Eat some protein, take a few days off from leg training, and do some stuff to get the blood flowing like walking, leg swings, leg extensions lying on edge of bed, etc.

Canis Lupus · 28-09-2009 7:12pm

Great googly moogly. Two weeks off on holiday + jetlag and there was no "delayed" about the onset of pain tonight. I was weak as a lamb and sore after the first set of squats

I can feel a John Wayne walk being the feature of tomorrow.

keezer · 28-09-2009 8:52pm

BossArky wrote: »

Very normal. It is called DOMS - delayed onset muscle soreness.

Eat some protein, take a few days off from leg training, and do some stuff to get the blood flowing like walking, leg swings, leg extensions lying on edge of bed, etc.

Thanks for that, didnt expect to be so sore after it. O well, looks like its workin so. The only thing about the protein aspect is im a veggie so i guess egs are my best bet.

itsallaboutheL · 28-09-2009 10:48pm

keezer wrote: »

Thanks for that, didnt expect to be so sore after it. O well, looks like its workin so. The only thing about the protein aspect is im a veggie so i guess egs are my best bet.

How is it veggies can eat eggs???

Like its a chickens period FFS......................:eek::o:D

Orlee · 28-09-2009 11:04pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

How is it veggies can eat eggs???

Like its a chickens period FFS......................:eek::o:D

and i'll never eat another egg ... :eek:

d'Oracle · 28-09-2009 11:08pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

How is it veggies can eat eggs???

Like its a chickens period FFS......................:eek::o:D

Haggis is the Lungs Heart and liver of a sheep boiled in its stomach.
Black Pudding contains congealed blood.

That which sounds the rottenest is often the tastiest.

itsallaboutheL · 28-09-2009 11:13pm

Orlee wrote: »

and i'll never eat another egg ... :eek:

lol

Mellor · 29-09-2009 9:26am

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

halve whatever weight you use on that.

squod wrote: »

There's another website if youtube is blocked for you, it has moving gifs and flash vids instead. Always squat inside the cage.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/Quadriceps/BBFullSquat.html

So, I decided to start the ol' squats.
After a few warm up sets, I finished on 3x12 80kg.
Bar placement was better today so no sore neck. I reckon i'll manage 100kg for a low reps, but i'll with 12 reps and lower weight for now.

Question, Benching your body weight is a sort of "achievement" starting off at least (I don't mean 1RM, but as part pf a normal set). Is there a similar goal for squats, double body weight?

d'Oracle wrote: »

Haggis is the Lungs Heart and liver of a sheep boiled in its stomach.
Black Pudding contains congealed blood.

That which sounds the rottenest is often the tastiest.

I'm pretty sure veggies don't eat haggis or black pudding either though

Hail 2 Da Chimp · 29-09-2009 9:42am

A good benchmark is
Bodyweight bench.
1.5 times bodyweight for squat
2 times bodyweight for deadlift.

Roper · 29-09-2009 9:45am

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

How is it veggies can eat eggs???

Like its a chickens period FFS......................:eek::o:D

Leaving aside your poor punctuation for the moment... did you go to see Dylan Moran?

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 10:35am

Hail 2 Da Chimp wrote: »

A good benchmark is
Bodyweight bench.
1.5 times bodyweight for squat
2 times bodyweight for deadlift.

agreed.
this should be every lifters first target and to progress from there

Id also add:
10 BW Dips
10 BW chins
1 decent wide grip pull up

once these goals are met, make new ones!

sfag · 29-09-2009 1:34pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

agreed.
this should be every lifters first target and to progress from there

Id also add:
10 BW Dips
10 BW chins
1 decent wide grip pull up

once these goals are met, make new ones!

Ahem - those lifts would classify you as advanced lifter (bench being 1.25 bw to qualify).
Theres only elite after that. How about starting at novice goals and then think about intermediate.
How to make a person feel bad!.

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 1:38pm

they are goals to aim for.
not something you HAVE to achieve.

I havent achieved even one of them yet.

BW 112kg
Bench 105kg (target 112.5kg)
DL - 190kg (target 225kg)
Squat - 155kg (target 167.5kg)
BW Dips - 7 (target 10)
BW Chins - 4 (target 10)
Wide grip pull up - 0 (target 1)

they are goals i aim for, if i get them, great, if not, i keep working towards them

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