Squats the story - the Off Topic Thread...

Killme00 · 29-09-2009 1:41pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

they are goals to aim for.
not something you HAVE to achieve.

I havent achieved even one of them yet.

BW 112kg
Bench 105kg (target 112.5kg)
DL - 190kg (target 225kg)
Squat - 155kg (target 167.5kg)
BW Dips - 7 (target 10)
BW Chins - 4 (target 10)
Wide grip pull up - 0 (target 1)

they are goals i aim for, if i get them, great, if not, i keep working towards them

Very similar to my numbers except i can manage 1 pullup.

bench 100kg (target 105)
DL 220kg (target 250)
Squat 160kg (target 170)
Dips -lots >10 (no target)
Pullups 1 (target 5)
bw 118 (target 110 then 100 and eventaully 93)..this is the biggie for me

Hanley · 29-09-2009 1:41pm

sfag wrote: »

Ahem - those lifts would classify you as advanced lifter (bench being 1.25 bw to qualify).
Theres only elite after that. How about starting at novice goals and then think about intermediate.
How to make a person feel bad!.

There's absolutely no way a 1.25x bodyweight bench makes you "advanced". Guys should be hitting that in <2 years training, if not a hell of a lot sooner!!

BossArky · 29-09-2009 1:41pm

Liam, do you think 10 bw chins = 1 bw wide grip pull up?

Chins are easier... but not 10 times easier??

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 1:43pm

the honest answer is i dont know as i cant do either.

brianthebard · 29-09-2009 2:01pm

BossArky wrote: »

Liam, do you think 10 bw chins = 1 bw wide grip pull up?

Chins are easier... but not 10 times easier??

You realise you have to go max out on wide grip pull ups to find out for us the exact ratio?!?!

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 2:32pm

Roper wrote: »

Leaving aside your poor punctuation for the moment... did you go to see Dylan Moran?

Nope, did i say i was going to?

BossArky · 29-09-2009 2:44pm

brianthebard wrote: »

You realise you have to go max out on wide grip pull ups to find out for us the exact ratio?!?!

Well, going from past experience 14 neutral grip chins matched up with 13 pull ups.

I don't see myself maxing out on these anytime soon.... not until xmas anyway. Sorry!

rubadub · 29-09-2009 3:00pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

BW Dips - 7 (target 10)
BW Chins - 4 (target 10)
Wide grip pull up - 0 (target 1)

BossArky wrote: »

Liam, do you think 10 bw chins = 1 bw wide grip pull up?

Chins are easier... but not 10 times easier??

Thats what I would have thought, if the target on chins is 10 I would expect wide pullups to be ~7-8, thats what I would have been at. And I would have your target of dips higher, maybe 14dips being in the same range as 10 chinups, you are already at 7. I reckon I could do 20dips on parallel bars, and over 30 on right angle bars, which I find far more comfortable.

But it depends on how wide you call wide grip, I expect I could do maybe 15-16pullups, but I bet I could go wide enough so I could only manage 1. Why have you only wide pullups as a target? if you can do 4 chins I would expect at least 1 normal pullup, then begin to go wider each time as a progression. I would highly recommend trying negative chins & pullups too.

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 3:11pm

i mean super super wide grip pull up.
as in hands as wide as they;d be as the widest part of the bar in a regular lat pull down.
its just a goal.

I can do about 2-3 narrow grip pull ups.
i was doing band assisted pull ups and chin ups but am going to start doing 10 sets of 2 negative weighted pull ups now for the next few months and see if i can improve my BW work.

10 is the goal for the dips at the moment but yeah, its a moving goalpost, once i hit that it;ll be 15 then 20 etc

Roper · 29-09-2009 3:12pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Nope, did i say i was going to?

He did a gag about a full Irish breakfast- "tubes of pig, slices of pig, some fungus and a chicken's period". Thought you'd nicked it.

Informed Performance's strength standards:

Bench Press- 1.25xBW
Pull ups- <80kgs 15+, >80kgs 12+, >100kgs 8+
Push Ups- 50+ in 60s
Inverted rows- 30+ in 60s
Trap Bar deadlift- 2xBW

These are all linked together, particularly the push ups and inverted rows, to create balanced targets. Once you hit these we start to move on to more individual goals.

cardio,shoot me · 29-09-2009 3:39pm

hmm my goals atm are 80kg shoulder press (estimate mine at 60)
95kg bench press ( " " " 82.5)
200kg deadlift ( " " " 170)
130kg squat ( have no clue)
15 pull ups (8)
25 dips (12)

justsomebloke · 29-09-2009 4:34pm

another example of strength standards

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 4:49pm

IF my back gets better Goals for Feb are:

Clean and Push Press 110kg

Seated Shoulder Press 100kg x 1

Bench 150kg

Squat 170kg

Deadlift meh... over 190kg

at 90kg

Real goal is make back work again...

this is all very on topic!!

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 4:53pm

@ Roper

No it's my own personal musings, i've always wonder what category eggs fall into when i realised they were in fact periods.

bigstar · 29-09-2009 5:19pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

@ Roper

No it's my own personal musings, i've always wonder what category eggs fall into when i realised they were in fact periods.

i remember i realised that too. still eat them though, sure its only menstruation, perfectly natural.

my only goal is to see man city win the league before the arabs do a legger.

rubadub · 29-09-2009 5:24pm

Joe the Santa wrote: »

another example of strength standards

http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm

Is there any similar strength standards for bodyweight exercises, I have seen many military PFT ones but I am thinking of empirical ones done for different bodyweights. A lot of the figures quoted above have higher deadlifts than me, but lower dips/chins, but most of the guys are heavier too. It would be interesting to see where the crossover point is in the average person. e.g. would a 8 stone scrawny lad be expected to do more chins if he packed on a stone of muscle?

I keep thinking I am not progressing in pullups & chins much but I am heavier than I was a year ago.

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 5:59pm

well then id say you are progressing if you are effectively doing pull ups with more weight.

sfag · 29-09-2009 6:40pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

they are goals to aim for.
not something you HAVE to achieve.

I havent achieved even one of them yet.

BW 112kg
Bench 105kg (target 112.5kg)
DL - 190kg (target 225kg)
Squat - 155kg (target 167.5kg)
BW Dips - 7 (target 10)
BW Chins - 4 (target 10)
Wide grip pull up - 0 (target 1)

they are goals i aim for, if i get them, great, if not, i keep working towards them

Good lifts but you don't say how long you have been at it and how many reps you can lift those for.

I'm at this game three yrs.
BW 93kg
Incline Bench (cant do flat due to collar bone injury) = 87.5 for 5 - no spotter.
Harder than FB so I'd prob manage an increase of 25% if I could do FB.

Squat = 115kg for 5 (got skinny legs)
DL = 182.5 for 5 - and that's only if rested.

had plateaued for a year. only starting to move again now.

sfag · 29-09-2009 6:44pm

Hanley wrote: »

There's absolutely no way a 1.25x bodyweight bench makes you "advanced". Guys should be hitting that in <2 years training, if not a hell of a lot sooner!!

see joe the santa's reply.
The figures are closer to my guides esp on bench. less so on squats.
The percentage is higher the lighter you are.

You might get near there in 2 yrs but go nowhere for the next.
Congrats - you are advanced. take a bow.

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 9:16pm

sfag wrote: »

Good lifts but you don't say how long you have been at it and how many reps you can lift those for.

I'm at this game three yrs.
BW 93kg
Incline Bench (cant do flat due to collar bone injury) = 87.5 for 5 - no spotter.
Harder than FB so I'd prob manage an increase of 25% if I could do FB.

Squat = 115kg for 5 (got skinny legs)
DL = 182.5 for 5 - and that's only if rested.

had plateaued for a year. only starting to move again now.

I'm lifting properly for about two years now.
all weights mentioned above are for 1 rep. I thought that was a given.

rep maxes are
bench - 92.5kg x 5
DL - 165kg x 5
Squat - 130kg - 5
Overhead press - 60kg x 8

your 182.5kg x 5 is impressive

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 9:22pm

Ya and my penis is enormous too..

can we get back OT??

Inspector Coptoor · 29-09-2009 9:24pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

Ya and my penis is enormous too..

can we get back OT??

which is what exactly in the "off topic" thread?

g'em · 29-09-2009 9:27pm

Liam Henners257 wrote: »

which is what exactly in the "off topic" thread?

The urge to post pictures that I shouldn't post is beginning to overwhelm me...

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 9:27pm

it's where you talk about stuff that isn't really fitness related or doesn't deserve a proper thread

itsallaboutheL · 29-09-2009 9:28pm

g'em wrote: »

The urge to post pictures that I shouldn't post is beginning to overwhelm me...

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cardio,shoot me · 29-09-2009 9:32pm

What!!! gem isnt a moderator of ladies lounge! whose gonna keep L in check!!!?!!?!

g'em · 29-09-2009 9:34pm

itsallaboutheL wrote: »

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aw dammit, I can't find any of my funneh photos. I fail at being naughty

cardio,shoot me · 29-09-2009 9:36pm

g'em · 29-09-2009 9:36pm

cardio,shoot me wrote: »

What!!! gem isnt a moderator of ladies lounge! whose gonna keep L in check!!!?!!?!

The day I realised that L was one of the least annoying guys who post in tLL was the day I realised that the place had truly broken my spirit

cardio,shoot me · 29-09-2009 9:37pm

but ive posted there........

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