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Are SIPTU doing more damage than good to the Irish economy?

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  • #52
    Dr Galen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,373 ✭✭✭Dr Galen


    this thread highlights more than ever the need for public sector reform. Many of the practices discussed here, and in other threads, have been in place since before most of the posters on boards.ie where even born! Take priviledge or banking days as an example if you want.

    You can blame the unions all you want, and indeed they have some blame to take, but various spineless governments that allowed such practices to become embedded in the average PS department have just as much blame to take.

    As for private sector unions, it would be naive to say that some companies are not taking advantage of the present situation to impose cuts across the board, but in fairness I'd say this is a relatively small number, seeing as come end of year time, they would be quickly found out.

    I've had extensive dealings with unions over the years, and not everyone working for them is the bright eyed idealist that many think they are. I've met many people, who really just love a good old row. That is not how best to represent the membership of any trade union. Trade Unions have to take a long hard look at themselves and decent how they want to build their future post-recession. There will never be another benchmarking, so things will have to change.

    On a side note, this theory that teachers, nurse, guards can't be sacked for poor performance is simply not true. For example, afaik teachers have inspections, and if they are found to be crap, then things are done. I've seen many nurses either moved to places more suited to their skill levels or let go, because they couldn't cope.


  • #53
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    ongarite wrote: »
    They are closing the regional depots because of the collapse of B2B deliveries in this country and worldwide & they are also pulling out of the personal, home deliveries from what I've heard.

    Another MAJOR problem in this particular sector and I can only speak on this because I've a good mate in the logistics business and this is a problem for him as well, is the number of dodgy operators who don't pay tax, are not properly insured, not licenced, basically what he calls, "the man in the white van", who will move boxes and pallets for his drinking money while he's on the dole. These operators are dragging down the price of freight movement across the whole market... You could get a new customer today and next week you'll get a call from the customer trying to agree the rate again because some "man in a white van" called in and will do it for 20-30% less...


  • #54
    Darragh29
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,097 ✭✭✭Darragh29


    Mystik Monkey wrote: »
    As for private sector unions, it would be naive to say that some companies are not taking advantage of the present situation to impose cuts across the board, but in fairness I'd say this is a relatively small number, seeing as come end of year time, they would be quickly found out.

    From what I'm seeing on the ground, any business that is still just breaking even at the moment is extremely lucky. I don't think there are many businesses jumping on the bandwagon, the few I know well from being in and out of them on a daily basis are really under serious pressure.

    There's a confidence crisis running through the country and people have stopped spending. The fear factor out there is not something I've seen before and lads a generation older than me are saying the same thing. I personally think this is down to the political leadership we have at the moment. All this filters down into the business activity going through the coffee shop on the main street, the delivery company that delivers the pallet of wine to the Chinese Restaurant, etc. It's like a disease to be honest running through the economy.


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