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Sgt Hartman wrote: »Turn-based battle systems should be abolished IMO, they r ****e. They nearly always turn what could have been a potentially good game into a boring, frustrating slog.
Please don't get rid of turn-based battle systems since the best RPG battle systems are turn based. I was never a fan of the FF ATB system but when they changed it to pure turn based for FFX they got it so right. All the best RPG battle systems are turn based, and I really hate the real time Western RPG systems.
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I thought FFXII was the worst for me. It was so boring sitting back letting the cpu fight for you and having areas that took almost an hour to get through made out of cut and paste sections repeated ad nauseum
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NeoKubrick wrote: »Give it a try again. FFXII's battle system compared to the previous battle systems is like the difference between high-definition and standard-definition TVs.
I've beaten the game and never want to play it again. There was no strategy in the battle system it was just sit back and let the cpu do the work, other than the boss fights which were the only thing that worked. How you can say there was strategy after FFX I don't know. Also the FF games since FF3 have not been about levelling up just levelling up naturally as I progress through the story. I have beaten every FF game from FF3 onwards without doing any repetitive levelling up. In fact repetitive levelling up completely ruins some of the games such as FFIX and FFX since there is no need to use any strategy during fights. Maybe it was a more streamlined system but it bored me to tears and meant getting from one location to the next meant 30-45 minutes of trudge and boredom and having to run around in circles if my MP ran out. It was one of the most boring games I've ever played. I was expecting a JRPG and got KotOR with a worse storyline and a poor version of the same battle system and I already hated KotOR's battle system.
It would have been a good candidate for this topic but I downloaded it when it was leaked 2 months in advance and thank god I did because I would have bought it otherwise and was planning on buying it when it was released.
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NeoKubrick wrote: »Strategy does not equal execution and execution does not equal strategy; so, I don't know why you're confusing the two as if they were synonyms. If, as you say, there was no strategy in the battle system in FFXII, then there was no strategy in any of the previous games in the series, because the battle system is just an interface for strategy, not a mechanic of it; so, that statement doesn't hold up if you think the Final Fantasy series has strategy. You conceded that it's more streamlined and it is, because with the gambits, you don't have to manually flick through menus to select an attack you knew you'd want the second you seen the enemy because the gambit immediately fetches the attack and executes it for you in the situation you specify. That's not the CPU thinking for you or participating in strategy; therefore, the only work the CPU is doing is what it did for all the previous games in the series except cutting out the execution when you already know which strategy (attack etc) to use (therefore, streamlining the process).
But they take away any interaction from the player you might as well be watching a movie, a very boring one.NeoKubrick wrote: »It's not a poor version of Knights of the Old Republic's battle system: it's an advanced and better version of it. But, feel free to cite the equal or better of FFXII's gambit system in either Old Republic game. I know you won't find equal or better, because the Old Republic games are two of my favourite games and they have nothing of the sort.
It's final fantasy, you expect a JRPG, not a western RPG which we got. I didn't like KotOR, it's just not my kind of game. Thats why I like FF games because it's the type of game I like.NeoKubrick wrote: »If you were expecting a traditional JRPG, then it's obvious that is bias towards a expectation of a particular game and has nothing to do with analyzing the actual game, logically. But, should you criticize a great game you only strolled through and didn't play much and have obvious bias against, just because you didn't like it and therefore put off the readership of Boards.ie from purchasing or playing the game?
I didn't stroll through it and nearly put 60 hours into that game. most of that time was running around in circles waiting for my MP to refill.NeoKubrick wrote: »And if you don't know what repetitive leveling-up means in a Final Fantasy game, then you should look up Penace or Yazmat or the many side-quests in the series which out-rank the difficulty of the main-quest.
I know about the ridiculously tough bosses in FF games and I never waste my time on them. I've the same feeling towards them as achievement points, pointless. I find no enjoyment out of grinding for hours to bulldoze a boss out of sheer attrition and no strategy. You might as well be playing a desk job simulator. I've too many games unplayed to bother with it.
Thought Saints Row 2 was great as well. It was the anti GTAIV in that it was stupid and fun, while GTA was trying to be serious and failing and a little dull.
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seanybiker wrote: »saints row 2. Thank fluck I kept the receipt. Has to be one of the worse games ever made.
Don't know how you can say that!! I know the game controls (especially the driving) feel very flimsy when you first start, but once you get into it, its everything GTA4 should have been. The missions are brilliantly thought out ("Bad Trip" anyone?
), the action is good and the gang customisation actually gets interesting after a while. You've robbed yourself of a good gaming experience if you just skipped over it. 0 -
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