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An interesting thing happened on my way to the forum yesterday (Wed).
Travelling,as is my wont,by Luas Red line on a lightly patronized journey circa 0910 we arrived at Kylemore Road stop.
All was going swimmingly until the Tram gave an abrupt jerk as it made to pull away from the platform.
Oh Oh sez Alek,have we struck an iceberg ?
Not a bit,two midle aged soberly suited fellows had legged it from the ticket machine and one had managed prevent the doors from closing to facilitate his slower companion.
Usual oul stuff
However wat happened next had me scanning the Tram for signs of Givyjoe81.
The Tram Driver came over the PA and thanked the passengers who had jammed the doors thus causing the Tram to miss it`s signal and delaying everybody on board !!
Well done I sez to myself,as I watched the two captains of industry wince as they looked everywhere except at the faces of their nearest fellow travellers.
Well done to that Tram Driver for showing that he at least DID care as to what went on behind him.
I half-expected a Givyjoe like person to rap on the Cab door and remonstrate with the driver,but no joy
Mass Public Transport is one of those odd things which does not lend itself to "normal" methods of operating.
Givyjoe is a great lad for pointing out the primacy of the individual customer who should be prioritized above all else....."I pay your wages" etc.
However,when it comes to mass-transit we need to consider a different dynamic.
It is not feasible for a mass-transit system to operate effectively in a Passenger Always Right mode,for to do so invites chaos.
Public Transport users,of whatever mode,simply have to accept a set of operational strictures which,although restrictive individually,serve to facilitate the greater operational good.
Thats why,for example,our flirtation with "Hail and Ride" was somewhat brief as it rapidly became a free for all with those whose expectation was of a personal taxi service to their hall door,even if it was two doors down from the last stop.
So well done Veolia Irl for instilling a sense of purpose into at least one of your Tram Divers,pity theres not a few more !! :PMen, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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An interesting thing happened on my way to the forum yesterday (Wed).
Travelling,as is my wont,by Luas Red line on a lightly patronized journey circa 0910 we arrived at Kylemore Road stop.
All was going swimmingly until the Tram gave an abrupt jerk as it made to pull away from the platform.
Oh Oh sez Alek,have we struck an iceberg ?
Not a bit,two midle aged soberly suited fellows had legged it from the ticket machine and one had managed prevent the doors from closing to facilitate his slower companion.
Usual oul stuff
However wat happened next had me scanning the Tram for signs of Givyjoe81.
The Tram Driver came over the PA and thanked the passengers who had jammed the doors thus causing the Tram to miss it`s signal and delaying everybody on board !!
Well done I sez to myself,as I watched the two captains of industry wince as they looked everywhere except at the faces of their nearest fellow travellers.
Well done to that Tram Driver for showing that he at least DID care as to what went on behind him.
I half-expected a Givyjoe like person to rap on the Cab door and remonstrate with the driver,but no joy
Mass Public Transport is one of those odd things which does not lend itself to "normal" methods of operating.
Givyjoe is a great lad for pointing out the primacy of the individual customer who should be prioritized above all else....."I pay your wages" etc.
However,when it comes to mass-transit we need to consider a different dynamic.
It is not feasible for a mass-transit system to operate effectively in a Passenger Always Right mode,for to do so invites chaos.
Public Transport users,of whatever mode,simply have to accept a set of operational strictures which,although restrictive individually,serve to facilitate the greater operational good.
Thats why,for example,our flirtation with "Hail and Ride" was somewhat brief as it rapidly became a free for all with those whose expectation was of a personal taxi service to their hall door,even if it was two doors down from the last stop.
So well done Veolia Irl for instilling a sense of purpose into at least one of your Tram Divers,pity theres not a few more !! :P
Thats an abosolutely pathetic attempt to veil a personal 'attack', troll much??
I dont think my complaints such as being forced to jump from a moving bus are unreasonable, and your attempts to paint me as such are truly mingboggling, seen as i have not demonstrated myself to being unresonable your above post seeks to magic me into situations were i am doing so. So where I can give many examples of inappropriate behaviour which i have witnessed from DB drivers, (and have posted links to experiences of others) you simply make up situations where i (or sorry, people like me!) allegedly show how of touch, or wrong they are, funny if nothing else. (im attacking the post, not the poster!!!)
Dont believe i ever issued the words the customer is always right, or anything close to it, but your post does give some insight to apparent siege mentality which Bus Drivers seem to undergo if anyone dares to challenge their 'superb' customer service skills.0 -
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Veolia/Luas is reasonably operationally efficient and that shows results in the service they provide and in the results they produce for money and carryings.
Dublin Bus does not have this strength.
Tis surely the truth,however the superficially appaling difference can be somewhat diulted by the difference in operating conditions and the arrangements governing its method of operation.
The existance of the Iron Rail and dedicated possession do count for something.
However I suspect many posters simply see it as a "Militant Staff" issue as used to be the case with member of the Garda Siochana many years ago.....remember the ACAB graffitti which could be found adorning most large housing estates ?
As for Givyjoe......Thats an abosolutely pathetic attempt to veil a personal 'attack', troll much??
There`s nothing pathetic about it.....cos there`s no attack.
If I want to attack or take issue with Givyjoe`s,or any posters views I`ll do it head on and upfront.
I`m describing a Luas scenario which I encountered that I felt was germane to the general tenor of the thread.
Describing the thoughts which went through my head as I listened an watched the scenario develop is surely not tantamount to "Trolling" or "personally attacking" ?but your post does give some insight to apparent siege mentality which Bus Drivers seem to undergo if anyone dares to challenge their 'superb' customer service skills.
Givyjoe,and the rest of the boards community,are free to interpret my posts as they see fit.
If "insights" into Bus Divers mentalities can be divined from my posts alone then I am suitably overwhelmed at my descriptive powers....BTW, I`m assuming Givyjoe is referring specifically to Bus Atha Cliath drivers here,or has he widened the net somewhat since the "Private" Bus Driving fraternity started to post also ?
And I make no claim to possess "Superb" Customer Service skills,all I do is provide a service as close as I can to acceptable.
However,in the 17 years I`ve been attempting it I have yet to discover the secret of unravelling the mysteries of Human Nature.
Nowhere was this more apparrent than on my last and first visit to Berlin when our return journey to the Airport via the S-Bahn was interrupted by Rail Repair work and a hugely amusing Bus Replacement operation.
Train arrives into last station and hundreds of passengers laden with luggage stumble about in total confusion,even the natives could`nt quite grasp what was going on.....cue a Railway Lady rambling through the carriages posting up notices advising of the disruption....War ensues as the native Germans round upon her in no uncertain terms.
I should mention that as the train pulled into the station,a uniformed official waved away TWO empty buses which had been on stand which allowed a nice 15 minute wait before two more buses arrived back,by which time ANOTHER train had arrived.
A sharp altercation then took place between one of the Bus Divers (:rolleyes:) and the official and the driver strolled away to the office.
We now had two buses to ferry two trainloads of people to the airport something even Teutonic efficiency balked at.
Thankfully we had allowed plenty of time for such eventualities and made our flight in time,but I was very aware of others who were not quite as well padded,time wise as were.
During all of this,not a single official,rail or bus,took the slghtest bit of notice of ANY of the milling throng ,NCLUDING the German passengers,who from what I could tell were given the briefest of customer service responses.
So yea,Givyjoe,I`m happy enough that I do a reasonable job,not perfect,but not as totally bereft of customer service "skills" as you have been inferring since post #1...It`s give and take really...you win some...you lose some ?
Or perhaps SickCert was correct after all
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Tis surely the truth,however the superficially appaling difference can be somewhat diulted by the difference in operating conditions and the arrangements governing its method of operation.
The existance of the Iron Rail and dedicated possession do count for something.
However I suspect many posters simply see it as a "Militant Staff" issue as used to be the case with member of the Garda Siochana many years ago.....remember the ACAB graffitti which could be found adorning most large housing estates ?
As for Givyjoe......
There`s nothing pathetic about it.....cos there`s no attack.
If I want to attack or take issue with Givyjoe`s,or any posters views I`ll do it head on and upfront.
I`m describing a Luas scenario which I encountered that I felt was germane to the general tenor of the thread.
Describing the thoughts which went through my head as I listened an watched the scenario develop is surely not tantamount to "Trolling" or "personally attacking" ?
Givyjoe,and the rest of the boards community,are free to interpret my posts as they see fit.
If "insights" into Bus Divers mentalities can be divined from my posts alone then I am suitably overwhelmed at my descriptive powers....BTW, I`m assuming Givyjoe is referring specifically to Bus Atha Cliath drivers here,or has he widened the net somewhat since the "Private" Bus Driving fraternity started to post also ?
And I make no claim to possess "Superb" Customer Service skills,all I do is provide a service as close as I can to acceptable.
However,in the 17 years I`ve been attempting it I have yet to discover the secret of unravelling the mysteries of Human Nature.
Nowhere was this more apparrent than on my last and first visit to Berlin when our return journey to the Airport via the S-Bahn was interrupted by Rail Repair work and a hugely amusing Bus Replacement operation.
Train arrives into last station and hundreds of passengers laden with luggage stumble about in total confusion,even the natives could`nt quite grasp what was going on.....cue a Railway Lady rambling through the carriages posting up notices advising of the disruption....War ensues as the native Germans round upon her in no uncertain terms.
I should mention that as the train pulled into the station,a uniformed official waved away TWO empty buses which had been on stand which allowed a nice 15 minute wait before two more buses arrived back,by which time ANOTHER train had arrived.
A sharp altercation then took place between one of the Bus Divers (:rolleyes:) and the official and the driver strolled away to the office.
We now had two buses to ferry two trainloads of people to the airport something even Teutonic efficiency balked at.
Thankfully we had allowed plenty of time for such eventualities and made our flight in time,but I was very aware of others who were not quite as well padded,time wise as were.
During all of this,not a single official,rail or bus,took the slghtest bit of notice of ANY of the milling throng ,NCLUDING the German passengers,who from what I could tell were given the briefest of customer service responses.
So yea,Givyjoe,I`m happy enough that I do a reasonable job,not perfect,but not as totally bereft of customer service "skills" as you have been inferring since post #1...It`s give and take really...you win some...you lose some ?
Or perhaps SickCert was correct after all
Well Mr SmartAlex perhaps you could explain why, if you were not trolling, or looking for a response from me, you felt the need to mention my name, no less than THREE times in a 'story', completely unrelated to me, my posts, or even that of the original poster??
And I dont believe I ever specifically identified YOU as having substandard customer service skills??0 -
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Well Mr SmartAlex perhaps you could explain why, if you were not trolling, or looking for a response from me, you felt the need to mention my name, no less than THREE times in a 'story', completely unrelated to me, my posts, or even that of the original poster??
Mea culpa,mea culpa maxima,I was under the impression that one`s posting opinion on a public forum thus left one amenable to responses of all kinds,including attempts to devine one`s reasoning and deductions ?
However,I am prepared to admit that in your case JoeGivy,I may have been mistaken and apologise for the slight you may feel.
However,I must continue to take issue with your assertions,such as this....And I dont believe I ever specifically identified YOU as having substandard customer service skills??
Your initial complaint regarding a sleeping bus driver,then expanded into further allegations concerning Bus Drivers speaking to each other in Traffic,Bus Drivers forcing you to jump from a moving bus before reaching the stage of opionating on the general lack of "Customer Service" ethic across the spectrum.
Your posts have at all times been somewhat vitriolic in their emotive descriptions of your fate at the hands of the Busdriving fraternity...you prob wonder why no one has ANY sympahty when you lovely chaps decide to go on strike at the drop of a hat, seriously, how on earth do you defend this prime example of disgraceful conduct from yet anohter joke of a driverShocking carry on and indicative of DB's culture. Lazy.There were numerous incidents with this guy, not just me personally but i remember my ex gf telling me about one morning on her way to work being screamed at by the same 77 driver. Complaining didnt really seem to work as the guy was still on the route for as long as i used the service.Perfect example of DB culture, sitting on a bus on Camden street, stuck in traffic, two drivers stope opposite each other in traffic, one says "this traffic is a pain in the arse innit.. " other responds "yeah, but i dont care, we're getting paid to sit in it arent we.." i.e. who gives a fcuk.No i havent thank god, there on my list of companies that I will never work for including NTL, and recently added to that list AIB.What?! Is driving a bus really that hazardous? How many accidents do you have?!
And to finish.......Please read again... DB DRIVERS.....You and your co workers here are constantly defending the poor service outlined by the people on here 'bitching and moaning', and while its understandable to a point, its pretty nauseating after while when posed with many differing situations, it seems that there is always an excuse or a reason deflecting blame away from your fellow drivers.You'll find me perfectly willing to accept they are of course great staff working for DB and wonderfull chaps, however there are simply an unfortunately large proportion of 'axholes' currently working in DB with far too much influence who are ruining it for everyone else.
Thuis far,I have to say that I have not observed your willingness,perfect or otherwise to acknowledge that there are ANY Bus Atha Cliath drivers who simply get on with their job without becoming involved in daily Passion Plays with their customers .....but there we shall have to leave it I suppose Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Mea culpa,mea culpa maxima,I was under the impression that one`s posting opinion on a public forum thus left one amenable to responses of all kinds,including attempts to devine one`s reasoning and deductions ?
However,I am prepared to admit that in your case JoeGivy,I may have been mistaken and apologise for the slight you may feel.
However,I must continue to take issue with your assertions,such as this....
Your initial complaint regarding a sleeping bus driver,then expanded into further allegations concerning Bus Drivers speaking to each other in Traffic,Bus Drivers forcing you to jump from a moving bus before reaching the stage of opionating on the general lack of "Customer Service" ethic across the spectrum.
Your posts have at all times been somewhat vitriolic in their emotive descriptions of your fate at the hands of the Busdriving fraternity...
And to finish.......
Thuis far,I have to say that I have not observed your willingness,perfect or otherwise to acknowledge that there are ANY Bus Atha Cliath drivers who simply get on with their job without becoming involved in daily Passion Plays with their customers .....but there we shall have to leave it I suppose
Allegations?? I made no allegations, mere examples of behaviour i have personally witnessed from DB drivers, simple as.
You painted me as unreasonable with your little 'story' yet even with your cherry picking of exerts from my posts i dont believe you have even come close to justifying this accusation.
And no I AM NOT, NOR SHOULD I BE open to all kinds of responses, i thought there were was a charter on here dealing with this kind of stuff eh?? I again draw your attention to the fact that I did not once specifically say you were this or you were that, whereas you MOST CERTAINLY DID. If you however had of offered me examples of poor customers service, as one of colleagues kindly did, then perhaps I would have been able to draw such a conclusion.
Lets not pussy foot around it, the thread had pretty much run its course and you decided to have one last pop at myself, but I seem to have spotted your apology just there.
As for my post regarding DB drivers 'speaking to each other' as if somehow thats what I had a problem with?! The reason I quoted this, as can be seen from the original post, was to illustrate the perceived culture of DB, with one possible decription being lazy, which I think such comments indicate, and the whole I dont care about anybody but me mindset.
If however as you have done in tiny snippets, offered some examples of good customer service from yourself, I would/will be happy to give you the benefit of the doubt on such examples given here, and say fair play, doing a good job.
Im not a stunt double for Keanu Reeves, so I dont think I should have to jump from moving bus, do you?! (However this is only one of many incidents!)
Gosh what an unreasonable chap I am.
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Christ it is so hard for you guys to acknowledge when a fellow driver does wrong without it always somehow being the customers fault.
Apologies Givyjoe n all,I`ve been away from the cab for a few days and am playin catchup.
It`s not difficult at all for ME to acknowledge that other drivers make mistakes.
I can even accept that Bus Atha Cliath Drivers make mistakes too :eek: :eek:
Should I write that in CAPITALS I wonder ..??
Perhaps,to curry favour,I should also state that Customers are NEVER wrong.....NEVER....EVER......The customer,like the Pope is covered by a Bull which declares infallibility in all matters relating to their own wellbeing... Is that Ok ?.....I hope I`m not being unjust or perhaps not going far enough to acknowledge a universal truth ?Put it like this, if i had of made a complaint of this particular incident, do you think your bosses would be more concerned with me 'jumping' from the bus, or the fact that this guy opened the doors, but failed to stop the bus??
Oh I have little doubt but that my boss would be wringing his/her (They vary from day to day) hands on reciept of such a complaint.
However I`m also assuming that any such complaint would be made in a Factual and unembellished manner.
If,however,based upon information available to Him/Her the boss made a decision in the negative to your complaint,Givyjoe,and wrote back to tell you to be more careful in future or to refrain from unsafe behaviour would you accept that ?
Back in the day it a was a rite of passage for young folks to demonstrate their ability to jump off the platfom of a moving bus,thus allowing the driver to "Keep her Goin"......however times have changed and the danger of the Irish race being rendered extinct from falling off Buses made Health and Safety become our new governing principle.You painted me as unreasonable with your little 'story' yet even with your cherry picking of exerts from my posts i dont believe you have even come close to justifying this accusation.
I dont think Givyjoe is "unreasonable" at all,and I really cannot see how I "painted" any unreasonableness on him..?
My illustration was a factual description of a customer service occurrence in another juristiction which I witnessed and was party to.....I`m not really concerned as to whether Givyjoe considers it a "little story" except if he`s implying it as a response to top his "story"
He`s made a series of complaints,allegations,observations which I,amongst others,do not take the same degree of issue with....In fact,as with the sleeping driver issue,the miserable wet weather would appear to have been the deciding factor in deciding the Anger quotient.As for my post regarding DB drivers 'speaking to each other' as if somehow thats what I had a problem with?! The reason I quoted this, as can be seen from the original post, was to illustrate the perceived culture of DB, with one possible decription being lazy, which I think such comments indicate, and the whole I dont care about anybody but me mindset.
If however as you have done in tiny snippets, offered some examples of good customer service from yourself, I would/will be happy to give you the benefit of the doubt on such examples given here, and say fair play, doing a good job.
I don`t quite know the reason for the need to qualify the bit about BAC drivers communicating with each other ? Speaking ? Speaking Loudly ? Shouting ?.....hey,communication in all it`s forms is a multi-facted art and if I manage to communicate my views to somebody else by whatever means it`s a success.
I`m afraid I have to decline Givyjoe`s generous offer of the "benefit of his doubt" as in order to provide the verification of good customer service apparently required I`d never have anough time to actually DRIVE the bus,thus I might actually have people complaining and rendering the entire excercise pointless.
I`m happier to judge my CS record on the responses of the vast MAJORITY of passengers whom I deal with each working day,many of whom I`ve come to know over many years of patronage...and nothing thus far written in this thread would prompt me to alter my method of operating. Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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Apologies Givyjoe n all,I`ve been away from the cab for a few days and am playin catchup.
It`s not difficult at all for ME to acknowledge that other drivers make mistakes.
I can even accept that Bus Atha Cliath Drivers make mistakes too :eek: :eek:
Should I write that in CAPITALS I wonder ..??
Perhaps,to curry favour,I should also state that Customers are NEVER wrong.....NEVER....EVER......The customer,like the Pope is covered by a Bull which declares infallibility in all matters relating to their own wellbeing... Is that Ok ?.....I hope I`m not being unjust or perhaps not going far enough to acknowledge a universal truth ?
Oh I have little doubt but that my boss would be wringing his/her (They vary from day to day) hands on reciept of such a complaint.
However I`m also assuming that any such complaint would be made in a Factual and unembellished manner.
If,however,based upon information available to Him/Her the boss made a decision in the negative to your complaint,Givyjoe,and wrote back to tell you to be more careful in future or to refrain from unsafe behaviour would you accept that ?
Back in the day it a was a rite of passage for young folks to demonstrate their ability to jump off the platfom of a moving bus,thus allowing the driver to "Keep her Goin"......however times have changed and the danger of the Irish race being rendered extinct from falling off Buses made Health and Safety become our new governing principle.
I dont think Givyjoe is "unreasonable" at all,and I really cannot see how I "painted" any unreasonableness on him..?
My illustration was a factual description of a customer service occurrence in another juristiction which I witnessed and was party to.....I`m not really concerned as to whether Givyjoe considers it a "little story" except if he`s implying it as a response to top his "story"
He`s made a series of complaints,allegations,observations which I,amongst others,do not take the same degree of issue with....In fact,as with the sleeping driver issue,the miserable wet weather would appear to have been the deciding factor in deciding the Anger quotient.
I don`t quite know the reason for the need to qualify the bit about BAC drivers communicating with each other ? Speaking ? Speaking Loudly ? Shouting ?.....hey,communication in all it`s forms is a multi-facted art and if I manage to communicate my views to somebody else by whatever means it`s a success.
I`m afraid I have to decline Givyjoe`s generous offer of the "benefit of his doubt" as in order to provide the verification of good customer service apparently required I`d never have anough time to actually DRIVE the bus,thus I might actually have people complaining and rendering the entire excercise pointless.
I`m happier to judge my CS record on the responses of the vast MAJORITY of passengers whom I deal with each working day,many of whom I`ve come to know over many years of patronage...and nothing thus far written in this thread would prompt me to alter my method of operating.
Why i thought you were trying to paint me as unreasonable, was that you had my name mentioned during your story, 100% accurate im sure, that i would have probably being complaining on the side of the dozey passengers, which of course I wouldnt, I mean come on, most of us here can use common sense to judge what it is reasonable. I was of the impression my name was being dropped to paint me as unreasonable, thats is all!
While I wouldnt ever dream of saying that customers are always right, its never quite that black and what, but there things which even before intro of H&S shouldnt have been done, including opening doors while the bus is moving.
My point was that other DB drivers instead of acknowledging the blindingly obvious that the driver from my story was in the wrong, it was painted to somehow be my fault, my action took place after the fact so is irrelevant, but that is what others chose to focus on deflecting the blame away from said driver. Anyway, point made.
As to your question I would certainly not accept that as a suitable answer to my complaint, as it again deflects blame away from the driver who was clearly the one responsible for the wrong taking place(bus not stoping), I merely as a kid at the time in a rush, didnt see myself as having a 2nd option, the guy had chosen to continue moving, had gone past the stop and wasnt stopping, and it would be highly inappropriate for any DB boss to suggest that I was somehow the orchestrator of the dangerous situation.
You ring the bell, the bus stops, the door opens, anything other than this simple procedure is operating outside the rules of operation I would have thought.
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You ring the bell, the bus stops, (At A BUS STOP) the door opens, anything other than this simple procedure is operating outside the rules of operation I would have thought.
A VERY pertinent response from Givyjoe clearly outlining the situation as it is TAUGHT in the BAC Driving School.....NO Other Procedure is even close.......However I have added the words in parenthesis and rouged them up a bit for effect...
As pointed out by other posters,my job does not equate with Rocket Science...it is Far Far more difficult,dangerous and uncontrolled than any branch of the Sciences can ever be.
The entire relationship between the Bus and the Pole with the word BUS on the top remains the source of endless confrontation,arguement,and associated ill feeling.
If one looks at the arrangement of Bus Stop`s along Dublin`s O Connell St one can see on a daily basis the faces of impatient,aggressive and frustrated Customers as they seek to be dropped off short of the Stop,due to traffic or other delays.
I am regularly asked,sometimes pleasantly,mostly gruffly,to "throw us out there bud" or "Great Weather we`re having is`nt it.......U would`nt mind opening the door would you".
These requests are all made by INDIVIDUALS,each only thinking of their own requirement..I however am looking behind the actual speaker to the rest of the queue,some of which most certainly will be unable to be thrown out anywhere except on to a flat kerb.
On an approach to such a Stop,I am also scanning the Stop itself,to ascertain what awaits me there...opening the doors short of this can often provoke absolute panic as the more nimble make a mad dash for THEIR Bus..result = Total self-centred chaos laced with panic and hi-capacity for Disaster !......and entitrely the BUSDRIVER`s responsibility to manage :mad:
When I began this career,as a conductor,I would speak for the driver,telling the customers how the driver could not open the door due to safety concerns,rules of the road and the Offences against the State Act 1939,almost none of which was accepted by those customer/s.....
Now almost 20 years later my route of least resistance but most clarity is a very simple NO.
From my perspective it works admirably...those who disagree with my decision still have to acknowledge it and those who respect it are clearly aware of it.
Such a request is rarely,if ever,made by a non-national person...it is virtually ALWAYS an Irish person who will demonstrate,yet again,the primacy of the INDIVIDUAL in our society...them foreigners know and accept that Public Mass Transit systems depend for their success on the willingness of that Public to accept the constraints of the term MASS TRANSIT.......IF any other more personal level of service is required......Take a Cab !!I merely as a kid at the time in a rush, didnt see myself as having a 2nd option,
The situation with children is even more fraught for a Busdriver,as in addition to wrapping Children in protective foam,society has conferred a level of tolerance on the child which allows large numbers of them to impose their parents lack of thought or responsibility on everybody else...usually a Bus Full of passengers !!!......:D
Again,my belief is in CLARITY, with a very clear requirement to impose a level of behaviour and order on children WHEN THEY ARE BOARDING......that establishes a clear set of indicators for the journey....well it does for me anyway.
Phew,this is tiring me out......Time for a Nap !!!!!!
Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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the reason i told my passengers was it'll make them think twice before asking to get off in between stops.
Good stuff MM3....Our colleagues really should make much more use of the PA.
Whilst I do acccept that many are afraid of it being on and broadcasting their innermost and passionate thoughts throughout the bus,I tend to use it as a tool to ensure that EVERYBODY is aware of stuff that may be relevant.
I notice how in your example the announcement worked to your advantage and I would say to take good note of that fact and develop a confidence in that Microphone !!!! Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.
Charles Mackay (1812-1889)
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