So whats the new Electro?

franklyshocked

I'm not looking to get flamed here lads but I'm putting money on Glitch...but looking forward to hearing responses.

Minimal is getting a lot of airtime at present as well, but the mainstream audience doesn't really accept minimal, coz its too....minimal I suppose.

Basically Electro was the big sound of the last few years (No I'm not saying its dead) so what style of music is going to be getting the stock aiken and waterman treatment next (Yes I'm showing my age with that comment)

seannash

hasnt glitch had its day already.
i reckon its fidget house.which is basically what electrohouse has turned into

Zascar

I thought it was Minimal? Or are we past that already?
I heard it was Dubstep but I could not listen to that for more than a few minutes.

Someone should put up a website where at any time you can go and get live updates on what today's new cool music fad is :rolleyes:

MikeHoncho

Global Bass:rolleyes:

jtsuited

how i normally judge these types of things is :

go to beatport overall top 100, check which genres are most heavily represented and which ones aren't. Also take into account the number of releases in that genre.

Most of the time you'll come to the conclusion that:

Prog house is not popular at all compared to what it used to be.
Techno and Tech-house are very very popular (more now than ever).
Electrohouse is slowly fading (well quickly fading depending on the timeframe you're looking at).
Minimal is still doing well.

jtsuited

Apparently hardcore breaks is really good too.

Zascar

Agreed JT. Beatport etc do not fall over themselves to put in new catagories for new fads like fidget house or glitch. Good thing really.

Tech House was popular over 10 years ago when I first started geting into dance music. It was great then and still is today - and has remained pretty solid most of the way in between. I'm more of a newcommer to Techno but I'd put it on the same sort of lines. I'm sure neither will fall out of popularity any time soon.

The thing I find these days is that the lines are very blurred between Techno, Tech House and Minimal. I was only on beatport last night listening to some of the charts, and really there was so little difference in so much of the music most of it could probably be classified as any one of the three genre's.

I hate arguing over specific genre's anyway, totally pointless. It also amuses me how come people are simply slaves to only liking what they think is "Cool" - which is reality they are simply following what they think everyone else considers to be "Cool". IMO people are more likely to respect you if you form your own opinions well.

jtsuited

yeah i'm gonna actually say techno as the answer to the OP's question.

And by techno I mean techno, tech-house, and minimal as Zascar quite rightly pointed out they are pretty much the same thing at this stage.

You'll find the many of the same labels and producers in all three categories.

Scouse House.

BASSLINE, put a donk on it
ELECTRO, put a donk on it
TECHNO, put a donk on it

Zascar

The day they start putting DONK's in good techno, is the day I hang up my headpones

VinylJunkie

Zascar wrote: »

The day they start putting DONK's in good techno, is the day I hang up my headpones

I'm sure someone will see it as a niche.

Martyr

ITAL TEK, he's dubstep and pretty damn good.

as with any music, you'll get good and bad.
some dubstep i can't stand, but there are alot of good artists out there too.

i'm still following alot of dnb too but its hard to keep up with all the new stuff!

jtsuited

VinylJunkie wrote: »

I'm sure someone will see it as a niche.

yeah but probably ten years later.

acman

Fidget house...as another poster already said, it is what electro house has turned into. Producers like Herve' / Switch are doing a nice job of it.

Also, electro punk (r.e. Bloody Beetroots, Congorock etc.) is starting to quietly but surely come out from the underground...look out for this style in the coming year!

Zascar

wtf actually is fidget house? Anyone got some good youtube examples?

seannash

Zascar wrote: »

wtf actually is fidget house? Anyone got some good youtube examples?

wonk and calvertron.youll know it when you hear it your probably just gonna think its electrohouse

acman

Zascar wrote: »

wtf actually is fidget house? Anyone got some good youtube examples?

The most distinguishing features of fidget / glitch house are the absence of your usual DJ friendly solo drum intro and outro, usual electro saw waveform sounds, fast paced glitchy synths with quirky vocal n such, lots of pitch bends too.

Hope that helps...fidgety out yo!

francois

Zascar wrote: »

wtf actually is fidget house? Anyone got some good youtube examples?

Awful awful name, what next, slightly palsied techno, facial tic trance

Zascar

Hmm ok I think I get it now. I'm confused as to just call it "Bad Electro" or whether to give it more of a chance - does seem interesting in parts - I'd say if I was out at a big gig it would be fun to dance to with your mates etc - but i can't se myself buying any on beatport.

What well known DJ's are playing it mostly?

MikeHoncho

Fidget is dance music for people who dont like dance music. I dont think this is a bad thing. Its not up its own hole at all. Knows what it is and does exactly what it says on the tin. Some of the productions are alot of fun. Not exactly mind blowing or ground breaking but sure most people couldnt give a toss about that on a night out.

acman

Zascar wrote: »

Hmm ok I think I get it now. I'm confused as to just call it "Bad Electro" or whether to give it more of a chance - does seem interesting in parts - I'd say if I was out at a big gig it would be fun to dance to with your mates etc - but i can't se myself buying any on beatport.

What well known DJ's are playing it mostly?

Herve, fake blood, switch, jesse rose (awesome dj), defunct are to name a few. Most of the Cheap Thrills label (run by herve) is fidget house nowadays.

By the by, fidget house IS a stupid name and was created as a joke apparently...but as usual, people took it seriously and voila', a new genre with a silly name was born. Ironic and funny me thinks...:D

jtsuited

I'm tellin ya now, a lot of those kids into fidget house/electro house/whatever are gonna end up in 2 years time massive techno heads.

And we'll all be tellin them 'the new techno is rubbish, better back in the day (two years ago).
Can't wait for it!

Woooly

I bought The Black Ghosts Mixtape last year and must say its quality. Think Touche is one of the two.

Zascar

I have not heard a huge amount of old skool techno but a lot of it I really like (the stuff that is kinda simiar to todays). Must try to dig some out.

Photojoe

franklyshocked wrote: »

I'm not looking to get flamed here lads but I'm putting money on Glitch...but looking forward to hearing responses.

Minimal is getting a lot of airtime at present as well, but the mainstream audience doesn't really accept minimal, coz its too....minimal I suppose.

Basically Electro was the big sound of the last few years (No I'm not saying its dead) so what style of music is going to be getting the stock aiken and waterman treatment next (Yes I'm showing my age with that comment)

One of the wost uniformed posts I've ever read on a dancemusic forum.

electrogrimey

Crookers are what I'd call fidget, they're pretty good, but I wouldn't say it's gonna be the next big thing, just seems like a kind of vaguely different style that will be there as long as electro is popular, which doesn't look like ending anytime soon...and since when does the mainstream audience not like minimal?

Executive Steve

next big bandwagonny trend for all you guys is going to be deep house i reckon

dubstep / uk funky / wonky / grime are all going to keep on bashng up against each other

a rake of old school jungle influenced dubstep tunes are going to make long sets combining dubstep, old hardcore, jungle techno, jungle to full on dnb possible

Zascar

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

next big bandwagonny trend for all you guys is going to be deep house i reckon

Really? What makes you think that?

To me it's just always kinda been there in the background with a smallish following and can be appropriately played with lots of other types. I love deep house for background / chilling music.

Is it really on the rise?

Executive Steve

from what i hear, yes - based on the odd blog i read here and there... a lot of ex minimal scenesters slowing things down a notch and adding warm chords... don't think it will all sound completely like it did back in the naked music hey-day but if i could whack a fiver on it at the bookies i would... the pendulum will swing back from that anything-goes indie student electro buzz and it will be all about smaller venues, more sophisticated crowds and deep house again - at least that's how the likes of mixmag will explain it.

jimi_t

I can almost guarantee that the next big thing for the scenesters will be 21st Century Trance - think along the lines of Deadmau5's Calvin Harris remix; electro sensabilities with big hands in the air breakdowns.


I for one welcome our new balearic overlords...

jimi_t

acman wrote: »

Whats the origin of that vox sample @ 1:06 - remember it from 1:16 in this tune as well but would love to know where the original sample is from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p8L_IwXetA

Selik

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

next big bandwagonny trend for all you guys is going to be deep house i reckon

Deep house never left as far as I'm concerned, but I'm agree with you to a point and it's been happening for a while. This may or may not be a good thing we'll have to say.

Not that I care too much for trends or fads, but if I had to pick the next "breakthrough" genre I'd have to say dubstep or nu-disco / cosmic disco or even just bloody disco. I'm big fans of all.

Electro-house has been gone for years now (and was always ****e) and I personally got sick of the whole clickity delayed snare roll minimal thing along time ago, although there was some good stuff over the years (think early noughties Steve Bug)

The so called "fidget" sound was pretty cool in it's early days before the likes of Herve and Crookers got involved. Certainly Jesse Rose has always had a deeper more refined sound and likewise with Switch's early stuff. He has no interest in making this kinda music again (by his own admission apparently). Swag were making house music with dirty basslines 6-7 years ago as well in fairness. Also, I remember when Trevor Loveys and Lee Mortimer used to put out some outstanding house tracks, but always with a bit of grit and edge. Now, as far as I'm concerned, both have completely lost the plot with their recent productions, talented as they are.

BaZmO*

jimi_t wrote: »

Whats the origin of that vox sample @ 1:06 - remember it from 1:16 in this tune as well but would love to know where the original sample is from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p8L_IwXetA

I don't think the sample in San Trancisco is the same as the other video you quoted, but the sample from the original video is used (maybe originated) in "Hallelujah" by the Happy Mondays

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivcxRGB_QMk

Scubadevils

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

a rake of old school jungle influenced dubstep tunes are going to make long sets combining dubstep, old hardcore, jungle techno, jungle to full on dnb possible

Martyn being one, and I'm liking what I hear I must say.

Executive Steve

He'd actually be on more of a detroit / broken beat / garage tip, but yes, his stuff is ridiculously good...

Did you go see him in the Twisted Pepper there a few weeks back?

Scubadevils

[cm]tyranny wrote: »

He'd actually be on more of a detroit / broken beat / garage tip, but yes, his stuff is ridiculously good...

Did you go see him in the Twisted Pepper there a few weeks back?

Must be a close relative of dubstep/jungle so, several tracks on his new album defo have that ring to them... Very oldskool sounding too at times, great album, love it... had it blasting out in the car today with the sun beating down :pac: - Forgot briefly about the woes of work and recession...

No, didn't see him - did you? As I've been saying for a long time now, I need to get out more!

Love this from the album...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fi9f3Q-pLM

tman

jimi_t wrote: »

I can almost guarantee that the next big thing for the scenesters will be 21st Century Trance - think along the lines of Deadmau5's Calvin Harris remix; electro sensabilities with big hands in the air breakdowns.


I for one welcome our new balearic overlords...

Erm, is Deadmau5 still popular? Thought he'd had his 15 minutes of fame already...

21st century trance!!!:p

I still reckon Tuff Cheeze will be the big thing of the future, whenever I get around to inventing it...

Photojoe

Skizz is getting really popular in East Europe so it might make it big over here.

jimi_t

tman wrote: »

21st century trance!!!:p

Laugh it up, the scenesters in their kanye west shades and their nu-rave/80s revival threads will find a new genre to ruin and I reckon it'll be some derivative of trance.

MARK MY WORDS

I'm going to hyperlink back to this thread after the summer and I reckon it's a safe enough bet.

mango1888

happy mondays i think took it from interceptor 17 - halleluliah or however you spell it.

that whole calvin harris your not alone thing reminds me of paffedorf be cool something serious. dead mau5 got that new track i remember i like it though.

basically whatever mtv hits and nme say is cool on dance and whatever ixmag couldnt give a toss about will be the next big break. i can see it coming into trance even like 90's house revival. you know how everyone is screaming old skool these days and wouldn't bat an eye if i asked them who marshall jefferson is.

speaking of, somebody make original chicago house cool again. please

Photojoe

So what are peoples opinions on electroclash?

It got a lot of bad press but I have to say I liked it. I liked the melodies, the dancefloor appeal. The whole pretentious art meets music bull****. It put itself up for ridicule and I like that.

CyberWaste

tman wrote: »

Erm, is Deadmau5 still popular? Thought he'd had his 15 minutes of fame already...

I for one hope he stays popular for many years, love his work. Cant wait to see him at oxegen.

VinylJunkie

CyberWaste wrote: »

I for one hope he stays popular for many years, love his work. Cant wait to see him at oxegen.

Honestly mark my words he will be the new Tiesto recognized by everyone and still churning out ****e to the masses!
He is a DJ who hates DJ's

electrogrimey

VinylJunkie wrote: »

Honestly mark my words he will be the new Tiesto recognized by everyone and still churning out ****e to the masses!
He is a DJ who hates DJ's

Yea i'd tend to agree...I listen to his stuff, and I do like it, but I was seriously let down when I saw him at picnic last year...It just all sounded the same, even moreso than listening to his albums. It seems to me that the people who used to listen to sh*t like Tiesto and Scooter and stuff grew up and naturally progressed into stuff like Deadmau5, maybe that's why he's so popular.

Executive Steve

It's more like kids who a few years back would have been listening to tiesto and the likes are nowadays listening to deadmau5.

Executive Steve

Photojoe wrote: »

So what are peoples opinions on electroclash?

It got a lot of bad press but I have to say I liked it. I liked the melodies, the dancefloor appeal. The whole pretentious art meets music bull****. It put itself up for ridicule and I like that.

Well it was just the poppier end of mainstream electro at the time... I'd rather listen to old electro than to "electro house" but i guess that's what happens when you let french people name genres...

MoonCommando

Its obvious that Bass and Dubstep (like them or love them) are the new Electro (like it or love it). These sounds are permeating into everything else and have been for the last few years, its been under the radar a lot until the last year or two however. You can hear its influence everywhere, for me we are entering one of the most exciting times in dance music now. Its really taken a good look at itself and has revisited its past in a variety of ways mashing everything together in the process. Music now is exciting me a lot more than it was 5 years ago.

tman

MoonCommando wrote: »

Its obvious that Bass and Dubstep (like them or love them) are the new Electro (like it or love it). These sounds are permeating into everything else and have been for the last few years, its been under the radar a lot until the last year or two however. You can hear its influence everywhere, for me we are entering one of the most exciting times in dance music now. Its really taken a good look at itself and has revisited its past in a variety of ways mashing everything together in the process. Music now is exciting me a lot more than it was 5 years ago.

Tis true... I'm looking forward to Billy Nasty (one of my all time fave djs) playing a Dubstep set at Glasto this year more than any of the other acts:eek:

MoonCommando

tman wrote: »

Tis true... I'm looking forward to Billy Nasty (one of my all time fave djs) playing a Dubstep set at Glasto this year more than any of the other acts:eek:

The should be interesting alright, I'm just glad that things are finally gettin looser in music. I've been saying for the last decade that things need to get mashed up again like they where in the beginning, people have been far too puritanical about genre's until recently. Being honest I can't do one night of the same sound continuously anymore, I need to have it mixed up a bit.

crystal castle

Everything sounds either like london or berlin. simple as.

Minimal/Tech House will always be my electro...oh that and electro.

MoonCommando

crystal castle wrote: »

Everything sounds either like london or berlin. simple as.

Minimal/Tech House will always be my electro...oh that and electro.

a very simplistic and depressing view. maybe if you just listen to electro/minimal/tech house everything sounds like london or berlin, but opening your horizons you'll find that there's a lot more "sounds" out there.