TNA better than WWE

ayatollah

First off have to say been a WWF fan for as long as i can remember.

i even recall pulling for wwf in the old monday night wars days - i used to get a neighbour to tape it for me as i didnt have sky.

but a couple of months ago i got myself a brand shiny new sky digital service with more sports channels you could shake a stick at. (believe me i know - i've tried)

i was delighted that i would be able to catch up on some wrestling as i had not seen it properly in a couple of years.

so my good friend Sky + helped me out.

as i nestled in for a nice little catch up session. i was underwhelmed to say the least.

where once there was non stop action there was now lots of pointless ****ing on about nothing. and apparently 5 minutes cannot go by without them pimping out some form of ****. ie. merchandise, PPV one of the other shows. live events etc.....

i watched one episode of RAW where i swear there was only 3 matches. in a 2 hour show is ****in ridiclous.

but then i saw wrestlemania and apart from that kid rock bull**** it was pretty damn good - (aside from the HBK Taker match which was so good i nearly creamed my pants)

but then next week back to form of **** all matches and look what else you can buy from us.

oh and what is this bull**** of showing old matches in the missle of RAW and Smackdown - that is just pure lazyness. i thought that was what the vintage collection was all about.

anyways to my point.

I came accross TNA on Bravo and its sooooo much better.

plenty of talented wrestlers. mix of some older heads too but they dont dominate programing like in WWE i mean last weeks RAW may aswell have been called Monday Night Batista for christ sake.

anyways since my epifany i have watched a few older PPV's and its product is much more worthy of my limited spare time than what the WWF are churning out these days.

MikeHoncho

Did you watch any ECW? Easily the best wrestling show at the moment.

Cactus Col

Havent' been able to watch WWE shows too much recently, due to not having the channels anymore. But still have Bravo.

Have watched a few episodes of Impact lately (but not the last one). And I think it's okay. Sometimes it seems like they go from backstage segment to prerecorded segment to recap to backstage segment ad nauseum.

But there were certainly flashes of goodness.

deanodrummer

I don't watch much TNA as it usually can't keep my attention tbh. I still enjoy watching Angle, Styles, LAX though.

Smackdown isn't bad with Jericho, Morrisson and Hardy to name but a few and ECW is good as a wrestling show with Tyson Kidd, Christian and Nattie. Raw is terrible. Wrestling should never be boring but Raw definitely is. Boring and extremely formulaic. Every show seems the same each week. No unpredictability. (is that a word?) And yay for Vintage Collection. Best wrestling show on tv.

Apart from some good points I think wrestling as a whole is at a serious low-point and with the like of MMA around, it's one I don't think it will fully recover from unfortunately.

Nody

deanodrummer wrote: »

I don't watch much TNA as it usually can't keep my attention tbh. I still enjoy watching Angle, Styles, LAX though.

Smackdown isn't bad with Jericho, Morrisson and Hardy to name but a few and ECW is good as a wrestling show with Tyson Kidd, Christian and Nattie. Raw is terrible. Wrestling should never be boring but Raw definitely is. Boring and extremely formulaic. Every show seems the same each week. No unpredictability. (is that a word?) And yay for Vintage Collection. Best wrestling show on tv.

Apart from some good points I think wrestling as a whole is at a serious low-point and with the like of MMA around, it's one I don't think it will fully recover from unfortunately.

It has gone so far that I'm not even bothering to watch the matches until I've read the review here as it is such a waste of bandwidth

I can only agree with the OP that WWE has gone from wrestling wrestling with managers doing the drama queen part to wrestlers doing drama queen part and very limited wrestling instead.

rossie1977

deanodrummer wrote: »

Apart from some good points I think wrestling as a whole is at a serious low-point and with the like of MMA around, it's one I don't think it will fully recover from unfortunately.

when station casinos go under later this year maybe vince will buy ufc for a few dollars and start another "invasion angle" :eek:

JP Liz

Since the draft - RAW has gone downhill for me whereas SD is brillant lately and since Christian's return to ECW (I watch it more now ) it has also been very good also.

TNA's PPV are very good especially now Daniels is back and Mick Foley is wrestling again - MEM have to be one of the best heel fractions ever and i do think since Angle come to TNA it has improved dramatically (Angle v Styles one of the best feuds ever in TNA History)

dsmythy

I've tried on several occasions to get into TNA but i just never stick to it through eventual lack of interest.

Fozzy

I tried watching TNA again about two months ago. I gave up again last week. It just seems that every week I tune in and have no idea what's going on. Maybe that's a reflection on me, but I don't have the problem with any other weekly show

Sometimes it seems like I forgot one of the segments on the show the week before so something on this week's show makes no sense to me. And sometimes it just doesn't make sense even if I do remember it

There's a lot of wrestlers in TNA that I like. But a lot of the time they have extremely rushed matches, so what's the point in watching? ECW regularly has around the same amount of in-ring time as Impact and it's half the length

I'm not going to defend WWE much, but I do like that I can remember what's going on with each wrestler and it makes sense for the most part

rossie1977 wrote: »

when station casinos go under later this year maybe vince will buy ufc for a few dollars and start another "invasion angle" :eek:

If Station Casinos goes under, expect the Fertittas to put even more work into the UFC. They're not going to sell their one profitable company when they have no reason to

DM_7

ayatollah wrote: »

plenty of talented wrestlers. mix of some older heads too but they dont dominate programing like in WWE i mean last weeks RAW may aswell have been called Monday Night Batista for christ sake.

Yes they have talented wrestlers.

But more than some older heads. Foley, Jarrett, Angle, Sting, Nash, Booker, Steiner and the dudley's dominate the show. If they are not on the screen they are what the commentators spend alot of time talking about. I have to press mute when the x division wrestlers are on as the action is often accompanied by talk about angle, sting foley or JJ.

RAW this week was the Batista show, Why? PPV coming up where he is challenging for the title. All the other matches are from other shows so this weeks show was always going to build up Batista. I'm not saying i loved it but I understand it.

waltersobchak

yeah raws a joke at the moment its basically the same show recycled every single week.. same fueds, same promos, same matches.. and about as edgey as high school musical to be honest...

smackdown is by far the best wrestling show on television.. its always has decent matches, and the more exciting roster,with the choice of newer,fresher fueds,but if ecw got and extra 30-60 minutes it would wipe the floor with every other show..

as far as tna ive always found it difficult to enjoy, while the wrestling is fantastic.. the storylines always seemed a little daytime soap opera for my taste..

DM_7

Fozzy wrote: »

It just seems that every week I tune in and have no idea what's going on. Maybe that's a reflection on me, but I don't have the problem with any other weekly show

Your not the only one who can't follow it. Its okay when you watch every week but miss a few weeks and its tough.

Smackdown is potentially the best.
ECW is the model of consistency. Really good wrestling show as they don't have time for all the filler crap. Oddly the ratings are poor.

CMpunked

DM-ICE wrote: »

ECW is the model of consistency. Really good wrestling show as they don't have time for all the filler crap. Oddly the ratings are poor.

Thats because kids dont watch it.

Diabhal Beag

TNA is better than WWE atm. WWE is just brutal and stale and TNA is always the better wrestling option (mostly because they can bring in Japanese talent)

Bubs101

Little Shyte wrote: »

TNA is better than WWE atm. WWE is just brutal and stale

TNA's champion is Mick Foley and I think their tag champs are Team 3-D

Little Shyte wrote: »

TNA is always the better wrestling option (mostly because they can bring in Japanese talent)

WWE had the best match of last year and TNA are going to have a tough job topping HBK vs. Taker

Diabhal Beag

Bubs101 wrote: »

TNA's champion is Mick Foley and I think their tag champs are Team 3-D



WWE had the best match of last year and TNA are going to have a tough job topping HBK vs. Taker

Mick Foley was not a TNA champ previously but I agree about 3D. At least the have a tag team division unlike the non-existant WWE division.

HBK Taker will be match of the year undoubtably but I think the average TNA match is superior to an average WWE match these days

Bubs101

Little Shyte wrote: »

Mick Foley was not a TNA champ previously but I agree about 3D. At least the have a tag team division unlike the non-existant WWE division.

HBK Taker will be match of the year undoubtably but I think the average TNA match is superior to an average WWE match these days

it doesn't matter if he was a TNA champ before. It's 2009 and Mick Foley should not be wrestlign because 1. He can't anymore and 2. It's 2009 and nobody cares.

Also, TNA have far too many womens matches which destroy the overall match quality, especially on PPV. If I want to pay to see women I'll stick to porn

DM_7

Bubs101 wrote: »

it doesn't matter if he was a TNA champ before. It's 2009 and Mick Foley should not be wrestlign because 1. He can't anymore and 2. It's 2009 and nobody cares.

Also, TNA have far too many womens matches which destroy the overall match quality, especially on PPV. If I want to pay to see women I'll stick to porn

I preferred TNA when they had Joe v AJ v Fallen Angel. Now the old guys are wrecking it for me. But the ratings have gone up a bit so it doesn't matter what i think.

The womens matches would be okay if they wrestled. But lately they have included stupid secret admirer crap taking time from x division guys and daft 4 minute ladder matches.

CMpunked

When TNA was TNA and not just the purgatory of a lot of ex WWE wrestlers it was good.

When it had something that made it original.


Sure, when Kurt jumped ship it was a case of "omg, have to watch it now!"
But then it got stale, seeing the same old Kurt Angle that had dropped down on the mid card during his time in WWE and you were reminded why you didnt care as much.

Rinse and repeat every time anyone has gone to TNA.
At present its Foley.

I love foley, im a self confessed foley mark, but dammit it is boring me to tears to see just recycled crap in the ring and out from him.

Perrin

DM-ICE wrote: »

I preferred TNA when they had Joe v AJ v Fallen Angel. Now the old guys are wrecking it for me. But the ratings have gone up a bit so it doesn't matter what i think.

Ya it was class back then with joe,aj and daniels.joe makin bits of the x-division guys

DM_7

Perrin wrote: »

Ya it was class back then with joe,aj and daniels.joe makin bits of the x-division guys

I REALLY thought that was going to make them take off. I guess they figured ROH didn't take off so why duplicate it.

ShawnRaven

C-B-G wrote: »

When TNA was TNA and not just the purgatory of a lot of ex WWE wrestlers it was good.

When it had something that made it original.


Sure, when Kurt jumped ship it was a case of "omg, have to watch it now!"

Yeah, and nobody thought that when Christian and Rhino jumped over in the same year, 2005. Of course not. Let's not kid ourselves, TNA were generating interest with former WWE talent long before Angle jumped across.

I love how these WWE v TNA threads come across every six months, but not one person actually gives proper reasons why. Most of them say better matches, but realistically, that's matter of opinion, rather than actual fact.

Personally speaking, i always thought Team 3D sucked, no matter what name they went under.

DM_7

ShawnRaven wrote: »

I love how these WWE v TNA threads come across every six months, but not one person actually gives proper reasons why. Most of them say better matches, but realistically, that's matter of opinion, rather than actual fact.

I don't think thats fair, off the top of my head Fozzy said he finds the TNA product hard to follow and that for me is a VERY good reason.

My reasons for having a dislike for parts of TNA are I also find it hard to follow. I am annoyed by the amount of time OLD timers are getting ahead of the three guys that got me intested in TNA to start with AJ, Joe and Daniels. They are also placed far ahead off guys like Storm, Roode, lethal and Homicide.

Now it could be said wwe keep the old guys on top, but those old guys are the reasons I watched wwe to start with. WWE are trying to incorporate new stars while being loyal to the guys that have been around down the years. I didn't start because of the new guys.

Bringing in old guys from other promotions or retirement and placing them above the guys that built up the promotion is what i feel TNA have done. Two TNA stars like Storm and Rude had to be put in a team just so they could get air time. At this stage they should be competing in singles matches towards or at the top of the card.

For me TNA have failed to incorporate the TNA guys with the former WCW/WWE guys and keep the originals as big stars. The originals always end up looking stupid. Now i know AJ is a "champ" and Joe was champ not long ago but they always end up looking foolish at the expense of the old guys.

I didn't start watching TNA to watch old guys hanging around in tracksuits or Mick Foley as a World Champ.

I certainly didn't start watching to see Daniels as Curry Man, AJ as a simple boy or Joe as a twat in dodgy pants and with crooked penis shaped face paint.