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Taxi Industry in chaos

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    Those are a bit out of date arent they?

    Why are a lot of them for the same phone numbers?

    And what about ones with the same phone number selling taxis and in another add saying taxis wanted?

    Is this another badly veiled attemp to pretend there are millions of taxi drivers trying to get out of the business?

    But you'll always get people selling businesses anyway.
    There are always people who arent cut out for running their own business.
    Them getting out of the business is a good thing. Obviously they are not good at it.

    There are also people who retire or leave the country. Or as was the case with a few taxi drivers i know - Banned from driving.

    And besides most of those ads are for taxis to rent. You cant work all the time, so renting your taxi out is a good idea. Im renting my own out during the day now too. Might as well get a few more quid out of it and get the maintenance.

    I only asked you ring some and ask why there leaving. The more you post. It become more obvious you full of ****e. Bet you never had a Taxi. Indeed I would bet money on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    2000 Taxi drivers left the industry in 2008. That the size of the Dell factory everyone is kicking up a fuss about.

    So now there are 2000 less taxis on the road - Leaving openings for people who can actually run a business.
    Survival of the fittest. A good thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    I only asked you ring some and ask why there leaving. The more you post. It become more obvious you full of ****e. Bet you never had a Taxi. Indeed I would bet money on it.

    I know people who have left the business. It wasnt for them. They couldnt hack it. they did something else. This happens in every industry. I know why people leave. Retirement, banned, found something else, or just plain no good at it and couldnt make money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    post your tax returns here and then we will have no choice but to believe you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    post your tax returns here and then we will have no choice but to believe you.

    I'll make a deal with you.
    Post yours and i'll post mine.
    We can both prove what we are saying. I'm all for it.

    By the way, if you are anything like me, you wont have your full income declared in your tax returns, but since we all know what kind percentage of it you can knock off, so we'll still be able to work out what we each make.

    I have a feeling you wont go for this though as it will show you not to be in the poor house at all. But you did suggest it, so you post and i'll post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    I'll make a deal with you.
    Post yours and i'll post mine.

    By the way, if you are anything like me, you wont have your full income declared in your tax returns, but since we all know what kind percentage of it you can knock off, so we'll still be able to work out what we each make.

    I have a feeling you wont go for this though as it will show you not to be in the poor house at all. But you did suggest it, so you post and i'll post.

    your not reading the posts are you. I am no longer a Taxi driver. I am interested in how your making a fortune. I am in south east Asia and there are more taxis here than customers, its a cut trout business here. At the Airport if your not going far they wont take you. That's what you want for Ireland. Taxi drivers fighting for the crumbs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    your not reading the posts are you. I am no longer a Taxi driver. I am interested in how your making a fortune. I am in south east Asia and there are more taxis here than customers, its a cut trout business here. At the Airport if your not going far they wont take you. That's what you want for Ireland. Taxi drivers fighting for the crumbs.

    So post your last sets of accounts. The supposedly bad ones that caused you to leave the industry.
    Lets do this. You did suggest it.
    Dont back out now.

    Actually, since you are backing out i'll make a deal with ANY taxi driver here who claims that they arent making any money.
    Post your accounts and i'll post mine.
    You go first though as it was one of you guys who suggested it. Because i know none of you will post them as people will see if you really are are in the poor house right away.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    last tax was 23,000 before deductions if I am correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    just to add to that in Waterford rapid cabs charge €145.00 a week
    for a radio. needless to say to I did not join.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    last tax was 23,000 before deductions if I am correct.


    What a cop out. Thats not tax returns. Anyone can write down any figure they want. People arent going to fall for that.

    I can tell you that i made 43,000 before deductions and was in university for that year too. But i can prove that no more than you can prove your 23k that you wrote there.

    Lets post copies of our actual audited accounts. And then people can see exactly what we make and what deductions we are making.
    There will be no hiding the truth for either of us.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    What a cop out. Thats not tax returns. Anyone can write down any figure they want. People arent going to fall for that.

    I can tell you that i made 43,000 before deductions and was in university for that year too. But i can prove that no more than you can prove your 23k that you wrote there.

    Lets post copies of our actual audited accounts. And then people can see exactly what we make and what deductions we are making.
    There will be no hiding the truth for either of us.

    hang on a moment you have a second job you leasing a taxi and driving yourself at the weekends. Your are a Prsi contributor. your taxes paid
    will be on your last payslip. You just hung yourself. What a bull****ter you are.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    hang on a moment you have a second job you leasing a taxi and driving yourself at the weekends. Your are a Prsi contributor. your taxes paid
    will be on your last payslip. You just hung yourself. What a bull****ter you are.


    Not at all. You are completely wrong again.

    My payslip has my tax and prsi paid for my full-time job.
    My taxi business is separate. I have to submit Form11 (i havent done it yet) at the end of every tax year. I pay the tax then that i am out by.
    I need seperate accounts for the taxi.

    And the taxi accounts i will be submitting here when i see yours or even another drivers will be for a year when i wasnt working paye anyway, when i was at college - so no second job at that time. I only recently started the full-time job. So we should be comparing like with like regardless.

    But you are trying to change the subject arent you.
    Lets do what you suggested and submit accounts here.
    You dont want to do it now do you. I wonder why.
    The only one hanging themselves here is you. There is no way you are going to post those accounts is there.
    You'll just post excuse after excuse and keep changing the subject until we forget about your suggestion. It backfired on you.
    Now you cant post them because they will show you to be the liar here.

    Did anyone ever wonder why no taxi driver will post his accounts on any public forum? Because then hey can pretend they are living in poverty anymore. Because there is no hiding behind what was submitted to revenue. The regulator knows what these returns really are. Thats why they ignore the poor mouth statements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    Sorry I ment PAYE worker. I would have no problem posting my accounts
    however I would block out my address. But as I told you I am in Asia bringing the kid to see grandparents. Accounts are in Ireland . Just a question after you have declared 45,000 for the taxi business are you then not on the high tax band for your other income, ie second job and renting the plate. If so it would hardly be worth it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    Sorry I ment PAYE worker. I would have no problem posting my accounts
    however I would block out my address. But as I told you I am in Asia bringing the kid to see grandparents. Accounts are in Ireland . Just a question after you have declared 45,000 for the taxi business are you then not on the high tax band for your other income, ie second job and renting the plate. If so it would hardly be worth it.

    I thought you'd back out alright.
    Yes i am on the high tax rate. Im already into it with my full time job, so though i can skim a fair amount of the taxi income the top (creative accounting, as any driver will know), the rest is still taxed at the top rate. Its still worth it though. All of the profit from the taxi straight into savings and will buy me a house outright some day - i hope.

    Obviously im antagonizing the other divers a bit here, so im going to just leave it. All i wanted to do in the first place was point out that the average punter knows drivers are lying about being on the breadline, so keeping saying that is just going to make people laugh at taxi drivers all the more. Dont treat the average punter like a thick sh!te. In general they are not.

    If any taxi driver wants to post scans of their accounts here, then pm me i'll post mine here too. I dont see any of them doing that though.
    so Bye for now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭topdost


    Chill out guys its just a forum Not a Taxi Rank


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,622 ✭✭✭maninasia


    It's true. Taxi drivers in Dublin tend to be degree educated, IT consulting, Dickens reading gents who have been company directors. Or at least there is enough about the job to attract a good few of them. Fact is that this class of taxi driver is not in keeping with those in the rest of the world. They are a temporary anomaly. And in 15 years time the driver who taxis because it suits his hours and pays as much as working in finance will be a thing of the past.

    That is what the taxi regulator is working towards. And I think it's right.

    How come they all dress so poorly then...sloppy looking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 The_Cable_Guy


    I've read some tripe in my time but this lot takes the biscuit.

    I don't care how much any of you do or do not make but I'll tell you one thing, one person here is definitely breaking the law, submitting false information to Revenue, under declaration of profits (not income, PROFITS), skimming, creative accounting, percentages knocked off!

    When asked to back up statements made in the forum, they attack the poster by requesting THEIR details.

    The poster asked YOU to prove what you say, not the other way around!

    Remember Revenue can find you, you have an IP address.

    Now grow up and go play with your matchbox taxis :mad:

    Oh and listen out for the taxman, I'm sure he'll be calling round real soon :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭topdost


    Hahaha

    The way you way said about taxman, he looks like james bond,

    target fouud.....locked and fire ......


    I've read some tripe in my time but this lot takes the biscuit.

    I don't care how much any of you do or do not make but I'll tell you one thing, one person here is definitely breaking the law, submitting false information to Revenue, under declaration of profits (not income, PROFITS), skimming, creative accounting, percentages knocked off!

    When asked to back up statements made in the forum, they attack the poster by requesting THEIR details.

    The poster asked YOU to prove what you say, not the other way around!

    Remember Revenue can find you, you have an IP address.

    Now grow up and go play with your matchbox taxis :mad:

    Oh and listen out for the taxman, I'm sure he'll be calling round real soon :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭james116


    I'll make a deal with you.
    Post yours and i'll post mine.
    We can both prove what we are saying. I'm all for it.

    By the way, if you are anything like me, you wont have your full income declared in your tax returns, but since we all know what kind percentage of it you can knock off, so we'll still be able to work out what we each make.

    I have a feeling you wont go for this though as it will show you not to be in the poor house at all. But you did suggest it, so you post and i'll post.
    what a sap u are.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    I've read some tripe in my time but this lot takes the biscuit.

    I don't care how much any of you do or do not make but I'll tell you one thing, one person here is definitely breaking the law, submitting false information to Revenue, under declaration of profits (not income, PROFITS), skimming, creative accounting, percentages knocked off!

    When asked to back up statements made in the forum, they attack the poster by requesting THEIR details.

    The poster asked YOU to prove what you say, not the other way around!

    Remember Revenue can find you, you have an IP address.

    Now grow up and go play with your matchbox taxis :mad:

    Oh and listen out for the taxman, I'm sure he'll be calling round real soon :eek:


    He'll never take me alive :D

    Sure ll he has to do is pick any taxi driver and audit them. We all do it. If you havent been careful with hiding your creative accounting in your returns then you'll be caught. Simple as.

    Why dont we tell everyone about certain accountants we all know about, who specialize in tax advice :D

    I see a few of my fellow drivers are worried that i let the cat out of the bag on the taxes.

    Seriously does any driver here think everyone doesnt know what we do with our taxes? Not one driver i know of declares all his takings to the tax man. And not one of them doesnt take every opportunity to throw in extra expenses whenever he can too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    LOL LOL Ive watched from afar and laughed .Ive seen many a thread on here ,but yours is fantastic .You obviously get off on it which is great ,but make sure you use a tissue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    Your an absolute wanker !

    For telling it like it is?

    Im afraid some of you guys are coming across as anything but gentlemen here. I really hate that some of you conspire to give the rest of us a bad name. You represent everything that is wrong with the trade.

    Has anyone decided to take up my offer of posting each others accounts yet? Didnt think so. I've also got a friend who has agreed to let me post his too, if even one of you posts yours first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭the boss of me


    I've also got a friend

    More frigging porkies....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    I drive a moped :pac:
    And I don't realy like driving so I'll never become a taxi driver.

    I know only one tip so I'll just chip in.
    In our rural area we have one business that employs many staff on late nights and that's the local hotel and the niteclub. Only one place now.

    So the staff are entitled to a taxi home, employer pays.
    But what happened was staff would finish at 3am or 4am but the taxi drivers wouldn't bother to collect them until all their pickup fares were done.
    We were guranteed business in a way so that meant hooooours of waiting for a cab home. Not ideal when you are supposed to report for breakfast shift at 8am!
    Remember, this ain't Dublin and instead about 14,000 taxi's you have 15 for the entire area.

    So one group of three drivers guranteed to give staff priority and get us home.
    And they would work on credit. They would record the staff fares and then submit an invoice at the end of the month.
    Hotel management loved this and it meant less petty cash and they could monitor it.

    In return, the three drivers got first call on all hotel business. This was huge! The only hotel in the area and over 60 weddings a year. Plus taxi runs for residents into town. And golf club trips was a real money spinner to the taxi drivers.
    This won't work in a city though.

    I'm not a driver and I have no idea what average earnings are or if TaxiManMartin is giving accurate earning figures.
    But I do admire a guy who instead of sitting on rank complaining, takes the time to think of an opportunity.
    Maybe you will too :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 lickmyballs


    mikemac wrote: »
    I drive a moped :pac:
    And I don't realy like driving so I'll never become a taxi driver.

    I know only one tip so I'll just chip in.
    In our rural area we have one business that employs many staff on late nights and that's the local hotel and the niteclub. Only one place now.

    So the staff are entitled to a taxi home, employer pays.
    But what happened was staff would finish at 3am or 4am but the taxi drivers wouldn't bother to collect them until all their pickup fares were done.
    We were guranteed business in a way so that meant hooooours of waiting for a cab home. Not ideal when you are supposed to report for breakfast shift at 8am!
    Remember, this ain't Dublin and instead about 14,000 taxi's you have 15 for the entire area.

    So one group of three drivers guranteed to give staff priority and get us home.
    And they would work on credit. They would record the staff fares and then submit an invoice at the end of the month.
    Hotel management loved this and it meant less petty cash and they could monitor it.

    In return, the three drivers got first call on all hotel business. This was huge! The only hotel in the area and over 60 weddings a year. Plus taxi runs for residents into town. And golf club trips was a real money spinner to the taxi drivers.
    This won't work in a city though.

    I'm not a driver and I have no idea what average earnings are or if TaxiManMartin is giving accurate earning figures.
    But I do admire a guy who instead of sitting on rank complaining, takes the time to think of an opportunity.
    Maybe you will too :)

    Your dead right ! it wouldn't work in Dublin mate ,don't mind this eejit with his mates and himself operating a little taxi co-op ,its all crap believe me !the taxi game is over in Dublin anyway ,I worked last night and from 8pm - 4am I had 100 euro gross thats not taking overheads into account ,don't forget thats a bank holiday SUNDAY I'm sacrificing too ! where were you last night ? probably having a few jars or with your family maybe ? well if you did ,I'm glad you did ....and thats where I shoulda been ,instead I was driving around Dublin looking for work, picking up people you wouldn't look at in the street for fear that they'd kill you for your few bob.I honestly don't understand why people hate taxi drivers on these forums .....the majority of taxi drivers are post deregulation so we didn't make you walk home at 4am in the pissing rain ,and the majority are hardworking honest family men just trying to get on in life ,its piss ants like taximanmartin that we don't need right now,just sticking the knife in and kicking a man when he's down .


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 899 ✭✭✭oisindoyle


    Look ****head........ I'll post my last two years balancing statements tomorrow when I have access to a scanner, your a ****ing idiot...... and I will wanna see yours too ! by the way just out of interest who does your tax ? it wouldn't be the NTDU by any chance ? if so I can't wait til' you get an audit

    You're worse to pay any notice ,,hes a troll uses different names on here ,,,IGNORE him completely,,,,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 The_Cable_Guy


    I've reported the offending poster to the mods for supplying information that can be used for the purpose of tax evasion.

    And hosting such information also presents a risk to the forum as that is aiding tax evasion.

    I don't post often but I do respect the rule of law.

    A troll he may be but encouraging others to break the law is simply not on, and I don't care who or what he is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    For telling it like it is?

    Im afraid some of you guys are coming across as anything but gentlemen here. I really hate that some of you conspire to give the rest of us a bad name. You represent everything that is wrong with the trade.

    Has anyone decided to take up my offer of posting each others accounts yet? Didnt think so. I've also got a friend who has agreed to let me post his too, if even one of you posts yours first.

    thought you were are leader in the industry, not a follower. You know you haven't the balls to post your accounts. Asking other to do so is your way of avoiding it. Your the one bragging nobody else. As for giving the industry a bad name. Most of the people repulsed by your bragging here are not drivers. Your boring me now with this obvious bull****e. Your also paying PRSI for the guy you have driving during the day and Tax. In simply you boasting about operating in the black market, just like the leaches signing on the dole and working. Your no better than them , no matter what way you want to dress it up, then to suggest you have public opinion on your side. Are you that thick you cant see you not being supported here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    And there lies the proof...... you know **** all about taxi driving, slow or fast will not make much difference to the fare ,not unless you drive under 21km per hour ,which if you drive at that speed you'll be pulled over on suspicion of drink driving.

    your a complete BELLEND icon8.gif

    example :

    so if you drive at 20km an hour for 2 hours a night how far do you drive? How much do you earn for it?

    and if you drive 40km an hour for the same amount of time how far do you drive? How much do you arn for it?

    I guess you wont be making much money driving if you're that bad in the maths department. You're better off finding something else. You might give out the wrong change if you cant do maths.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    I've reported the offending poster to the mods for supplying information that can be used for the purpose of tax evasion.

    And hosting such information also presents a risk to the forum as that is aiding tax evasion.

    I don't post often but I do respect the rule of law.

    A troll he may be but encouraging others to break the law is simply not on, and I don't care who or what he is.

    Where have i supplied any information that would be used for the purpose of tax evasion?
    All i have done is explain what al of us drivers do with our taxes.
    You know what we do with our taxes :) Everybody knows the tax situation with taxis.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    thought you were are leader in the industry, not a follower. You know you haven't the balls to post your accounts. Asking other to do so is your way of avoiding it. Your the one bragging nobody else. As for giving the industry a bad name. Most of the people repulsed by your bragging here are not drivers. Your boring me now with this obvious bull****e. Your also paying PRSI for the guy you have driving during the day and Tax. In simply you boasting about operating in the black market, just like the leaches signing on the dole and working. Your no better than them , no matter what way you want to dress it up, then to suggest you have public opinion on your side. Are you that thick you cant see you not being supported here.

    Im obviosly hitting nerves. Good. The truth hurts.

    I only see my fellow taxi drivers squirming here. Look, im not telling anything the general public dont already know here.

    When someone else here posts their accounts i will post mine. I have made that clear. It was someone pretending there was no money to be made in taxiing who suggested but then backed out. I expect none of you to post because it will show that you actually do make a good living despite your tears.

    I dont need to pay employers PRSI for the guy who rents my taxi. The amount he pays me in rent is added to my income and taxed accordingly.
    Your still grasping at straws guys.

    One of you post your accounts and i'll post mine. Its that easy to see who is telling lies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    what on earths name are you talking about. how do you drive at 20k an hour. that's jogging speed. An average job takes 10 minutes. In fact a lot of complaints against drivers are for speeding, never heard of one for going a a snails pace. I asked you this before. Are you really a taxi driver because I have my doubts. you seem to know nothing about the subject.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    samsham wrote: »
    what on earths name are you talking about. how do you drive at 20k an hour. that's jogging speed. An average job takes 10 minutes. In fact a lot of complaints against drivers are for speeding, never heard of one for going a a snails pace. I asked you this before. Are you really a taxi driver because I have my doubts. you seem to know nothing about the subject.


    Thankyou. You are making exactly my original point baout driving speed. Im glad at least you get it. I had to simplify it for that guy to understand. If you readback through the thread you can see what he was replying too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    lickmyballs is now banned from Commuting and Transport.

    Again, if you've a point worth making, you can make it civilly and constructively. Resorting to abuse and name calling and I won't give one toss what your point is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭HydeRoad


    I deliberately withdrew from boards because nobody seems interested in actual, logical debate, but rather just any opportunity to wind people up. But I will raise one point here, and then quietly withdraw again.

    TaxiManMartin may well be earning all the millions he says he is. He would have to be a miracle worker, to be earning four times on a Saturday what everyone else would claim to have been average earnings four years ago before all this collapse of the industry. But he may well be doing it. If he can't or won't prove it, then you are wasting your time arguing with him.

    The point he doesn't make, and nobody else has either, is that such earnings are impossible across the whole industry.

    Think of the taxi industry as a big bowl of rice. TaxiManMartin has become very profficient at scooping himself up an enormous helping of rice. Good luck to him. But there is nowhere near enough rice in the bowl for everyone to take such a helping. The rice will run out long before everyone has even had two grains of it.

    The taxi industry, no matter how thriving it could possibly be, is finite. There is a line somewhere, that is impossible to quantify accurately, beyond which there will simply be no more customers. Once everyone in the country has been fed, there will be no more business for breakfasts until the following morning. The same with taxis. When everyone has got where they want to go, there is no more business.

    Now how many taxis does it take to get everyone in Ireland where they want to go, and still offer the living the drivers demand? That is hard to quantify too. Take that figure, and double it. Now everyone earns half what they might expect. Double it again. Now everyone starts having enormous difficulties.

    Within that oversupplied industry, there are of course going to be particularly gifted, successful, or just plain lucky people, who earn above the going rate, and who get themselves through. Similarly, there will be people who make no effort at all, and will be the first to fall by the wayside.

    But stuck in the middle, are a very large number of hardworking individuals, who do not have the gift or the luck of the top few, and who have to share out the bowl of rice the best they can. That means everyone gets an equal share, which is not enough to get by. Or it means some grab more than their share, and others get none at all. But there isn't another bowl of rice.

    With things like discounts, etc. you might increase the business a little. But you won't increase it enough to make the difference required to get all the taximen back on their feet. It remains the case, regardless how well some individuals are doing, that there are too many taxis. How you cut that number down is another argument. Who do you cut, and who do you keep?

    You cannot simply tell them all to try harder. If every one of the forty-something thousand psv licence holders in the country started trying to do what TaxiManMartin says he is doing, then he would find business as hard as anyone else. He is only particularly successful because of the lack of success of others. That is hard business. But it doesn't excuse the horrendous situation others find themselves in.

    I left the taxi business. I thought it was a good business investment four years ago when I started. And it was at the time. I didn't reckon on people on the social welfare being given grants to compete with me, with no proper training whatsoever. I didn't reckon with the vast amount of illegality that would be let grow within the industry. And I didn't reckon with a taxi regulator who would simply take her hands off the wheel, and let the industry freefall into oblivion. No matter how much any one individual is making, nobody could say the taxi industry is a good investment at the moment.

    I left in February. I made a social welfare claim in February. I still have had no money. I have been living on thin air for four whole months. No income whatsoever. I am damned if I stay in the industry. I am damned if I get out. Market forces dictate that it should find it's own level. It can only find it's level if people drop out. They cannot drop out if they are going to end up in my situation. So the industry cannot find it's true level. And is being destroyed because of that.

    In every business in the world, you will find particularly aggressive people, who are able and willing to grab as much as possible for themselves. They will then look down their noses at others who were not as successful. It doesn't make for a very pleasant environment. It depends on your life outlook.

    Do you believe in a life where it's every man for himself, survival of the fittest? Or do you believe in help thy neighbour? In life, we are blessed with both outlooks. And never the twain shall meet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    In business it is indeed survival of the fittest. It seems (time and again) that the biggest mistake made by so many taxi drivers is that they have failed to realise that they are entering into and plying their trade in....a business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    samsham wrote: »

    What are all those links you are posting? I can't get them to work!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 495 ✭✭HydeRoad


    murphaph wrote: »
    In business it is indeed survival of the fittest. It seems (time and again) that the biggest mistake made by so many taxi drivers is that they have failed to realise that they are entering into and plying their trade in....a business.

    Business is good. Business is healthy. An industry absolutely rife with illegality is not good or healthy. It will take somebody other than the current administration to do anything about it. If anybody could or would.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭trellheim


    After a few bevs in Doheny and Nesbitts last Friday I decided to walk down to Dawson St at 1 AM


    After standing amazed for a few minutes at the corner of the Green and Dawson St
    Here was the Situation:

    Dawson St Rank : From Cafe En Seine full back to the Corner, and about 20 taxis backed up in that lane on the Green round the corner waiting to get onto the rank.

    Stephens Green Rank :
    Rank was full
    The relief rank at the other side : full
    the dubious no real reality centre rank : full
    the traffic lane back behind that rank : full nearly round the other side of the green.

    Of course the non-taxi vehicles stuck trying to get to that part of the green were completely blocked and couldn't get through at all [ and going mental ]


    No coppers to be seen.

    Completely mental.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    I feel for the motorists delayed I really do but it's better than in the bad old days when it was ranks full of people and no taxis to be seen.


  • Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭james116


    murphaph wrote: »
    I feel for the motorists delayed I really do but it's better than in the bad old days when it was ranks full of people and no taxis to be seen.
    what u have to remember that in those days they was no late nite dart or luas and and only a few nite links so they would be lines of people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭dinky earnshaw


    Congratulations your the worlds greatest taxi driver 600 for a saturday night!!!!!!!!!!!
    Its not actually possible is it? come on now tell the truth. 4 x 15e jobs are going to take you at LEAST 10 mins each. Leaving you with only 5mins between each job. So regardless of where you drop off ie tallagth or swords your a few minutes away from your next pick up. How are you doing your leaflet drop ??? from a 747. You can if your lucky get a run of luck and maybe make 40 an hour for 2 maybe 3 hours once in a blue moon. But your talking complete nonsense with 600 a night. Never have i ever heard another driver claim that and trust me I know a fair amount of spoofers what your claiming cant be done its impossible. Im driving 7 years with what was a great radio company and never even got close to averaging that amount.
    Your a s**t stirrer admit it then get lost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 310 ✭✭TaxiManMartin


    Congratulations your the worlds greatest taxi driver 600 for a saturday night!!!!!!!!!!!

    Its not actually possible is it? come on now tell the truth. 4 x 15e jobs are going to take you at LEAST 10 mins each. Leaving you with only 5mins between each job. So regardless of where you drop off ie tallagth or swords your a few minutes away from your next pick up. How are you doing your leaflet drop ??? from a 747. You can if your lucky get a run of luck and maybe make 40 an hour for 2 maybe 3 hours once in a blue moon. But your talking complete nonsense with 600 a night. Never have i ever heard another driver claim that and trust me I know a fair amount of spoofers what your claiming cant be done its impossible. Im driving 7 years with what was a great radio company and never even got close to averaging that amount.
    Your a s**t stirrer admit it then get lost.

    Read what i said about the leaflet drops again. We dont use a 747, we pay someone to do these. I can get close enough to €600 on a Saturday night only. Usually a nice bit over €500. Fridays average about €300. Weeknights average about €30 per hour.

    Maybe you should find another business and let the better taxi drivers compete. Obviously you arent much good at it. There is no room for laziness in the business. Those who think money should fall into their lap without competing will become extinct. Welcome to the real world. The regulator is not going to bar entry .... ever, so its time for people to run their car properly like a business or just leave.

    There should be a taxi driver school. Maybe some people here who claim to be on the breadline could go and learn how to make some money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    samsham wrote: »
    When our Government should be protecting jobs

    I see where you went wrong there. Taxi driving is a business not a job.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Taxipete29


    Read what i said about the leaflet drops again. We dont use a 747, we pay someone to do these. I can get close enough to €600 on a Saturday night only. Usually a nice bit over €500. Fridays average about €300. Weeknights average about €30 per hour.

    Maybe you should find another business and let the better taxi drivers compete. Obviously you arent much good at it. There is no room for laziness in the business. Those who think money should fall into their lap without competing will become extinct. Welcome to the real world. The regulator is not going to bar entry .... ever, so its time for people to run their car properly like a business or just leave.

    There should be a taxi driver school. Maybe some people here who claim to be on the breadline could go and learn how to make some money.

    I want to see you respond to Hyde Roads posts. Is the reason you didnt reply is you know he is right???


  • Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭dinky earnshaw


    Read what i said about the leaflet drops again. We dont use a 747, we pay someone to do these. I can get close enough to €600 on a Saturday night only. Usually a nice bit over €500. Fridays average about €300. Weeknights average about €30 per hour.

    Maybe you should find another business and let the better taxi drivers compete. Obviously you arent much good at it. There is no room for laziness in the business. Those who think money should fall into their lap without competing will become extinct. Welcome to the real world. The regulator is not going to bar entry .... ever, so its time for people to run their car properly like a business or just leave.

    There should be a taxi driver school. Maybe some people here who claim to be on the breadline could go and learn how to make some money.
    Trust me I work hard and smart I know how and where to get the jobs Ive cards and mates who pass on work when its there and i work a radio offering discounts that advertises constantly. Regardless of all this I have never ever come close to averaging that amount why? because its not physically possible unless Martin you have your metre rigged.

    Tell us all how you physically manage to pull that amount given the time constraints.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 236 ✭✭samsham


    I see where you went wrong there. Taxi driving is a business not a job.

    I am a bit lost here, whats this point about? 27,000 people own taxis.
    The taxi regulators figures say 45,000 are licensed to drive taxis.
    Its a job what ever way you look at it, for those who own taxis
    and for those who drive them. 2,000 people left the industry in
    2008 because it's a superb job with great opportunity to make a
    fortune. As for taximan martin. He was deprived of attention when
    young and is now a compulsive attention seeked and never drove a
    taxi in his life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    A friend of mine's father drives a taxi and we often used him to get into town (before I recently left for germany). He always maintained that there was good money in it and scoffed at the lads sitting parked at the ranks and said they were amateurs. That was the guy's opinion so don't shoot the messenger. Maybe Martin isn't so far from the truth as some would like to believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    Could it be possible that the bleating from the other taxi drivers and the unions have put a downer on the majority of drivers out there? By constantly stating there is no work it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy as they stop looking for it and just sit on ranks complaining.

    Those who remain positive and go and seek out the work are getting it and making money on it.

    I think that is the gist of what Martin is saying although Hyde Road is correct in saying that if everyone took the same approach, there would not be enough work to go round.

    Still, you can't blame the man who grabs it with both hands.


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