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  • 25-05-2009 9:57pm
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    Or something like that. Just a strange day.

    We have had three cats for the last two years or so. One of them got pregnant and had her kittens last week. All was grand, and then the last 24 hours have been freaky. The new kittens were grand and healthy. Was watching the Monaco GP yesterday, then went outside to check the kittens. All fine, mother and kittens out in the sun. Two hours later, my mother comes home and starts screaming. The mother was after eating all the kittens. Alive. Blood and bits of kitten everywhere. Ah well.. Freaky cat. Back to having the three cats.

    Then, today, was driving out of my yard, and found one of the other cats dead on the road. Got smashed open by a car. Down to two cats. Then, two hours ago, the tomcat showed up with weird head injuries and is breathing oddly. Bringing him to the vet tomorrow but he doesn't appear too well. So...we're left with freaky child-eating cat, who, in the last half hour, has started vomiting and ****ting everywhere. It's yowling and keeps rolling around on its back as well. I'm getting a bit freaked out. Just over 24 hours ago, we had six healthy, normal cats. Now we have two ****ed up ones.

    Anyone else ever had strange occurences that seem to keep happening in a short period of time? Yes, I know this is a very tenuous link, but feck it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    just like women


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    I guess the moral of the story is you're not meant to own pets or bad things will happen.
    Try to rehome the other two cats, if they are still alive, to give them a fighting chance.

    If I was your mother I'd be looking to get away from you too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭Jimbo


    You might want to put the kitten eating one down.
    I wouldn't turn my back on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Moral of the story: Get a dog. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    Cats are unlucky.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    Am I the only person seeing the next logical step here? Eat the Tom-cat. It clearly wants to die.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    ottostreet wrote: »
    The mother was after eating all the kittens. Alive. Blood and bits of kitten everywhere. Ah well.. Freaky cat. Back to having the three cats.
    That's odd. It's usually tomcats who eat kittens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭shezzie


    lol - that was a funny story


    poor little kittens
    poor cats
    dont get any dogs either....
    a nice pet snake that will take care of your other 2 cats should solve the kitten muncher....

    moral of story you should not own a pet.......they have no chance with ya


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Females Killing Kittens

    Kitten-killing is more often seen in females, simply because the tom is usually absent from the nest. There are numerous reasons for this behaviour.

    As in tomcats, some females cannot switch off hunting behaviour in response to the presence of kittens. Some have poorly developed maternal instincts or they may have a hormonal imbalance so that the maternal behaviour is not triggered by pregnancy and kittening. Because the kittens may inherit this as a genetic trait (hypothetical but very feasible), it is wise not breed from such females again - not just to avoid the tragedy of seeing kittens killed by their mother, but to avoid the problem becoming more widespread. Females which haven't given birth may treat kittens born to other females as prey. Pregnancy and birthing cause hormones which generally trigger maternal instinct. A female without kittens has not gone thorugh this process and the size and sound of the kittens triggers her hunting instincts.

    Some kittens are born with abnormalities that humans cannot detect. For this reason they may not thrive, they may even act or smell 'wrong' to the queen. Where one or two kittens are either killed or abandoned, these kittens are often found to be somehow 'faulty'. The mother simply does not want to waste energy on raising kittens that have little chance of survival. In addition, she has expended a lot of energy during pregnancy and she may eat all or part of some of these kittens in an attempt to recoup some of those losses (just as she eats placentas) and to dispose of 'carrion' that could potentially lead predators to her nest. The same goes for kittens which have an illness - she can smell the problem, humans cannot.

    Kittens born at a 'bad time of year' e.g. early spring/late fall/winter in the wild state, have a poor chance of survival due to lack of prey. A number of female cats will kill litters born at 'bad times of the year' in order not to use up valuable energy in raising kittens when they themselves have problems in finding adequate food. This has been noted in feral cats.

    It is well known that a mother cat may kill kittens if the nest is disturbed, especially if she is confined and cannot move or hide her litter. This is attributed to a frustrated 'protection' instinct. Unable to protect her kittens against a perceived threat, she kills them in a futile attempt at protecting them. Perhaps instinct tells her that it is better to kill offspring herself and make good her own escape than to attempt to defend them against insurmountable (in her view) odds and possibly endanger herself in the process. A few mothers have accidentally killed kittens by trying to push them underneath a doorway in an attempt to move them to a new nest and some over-anxious but non-confined queens have killed kittens as a result of maternal incompetence or perceived threats to the nest. These mothers are generally either desperate or inexperienced or both. A few nervous queens are disturbed enough by the scent of a tomcat nearby that they will resort to the eat-is-protect mechanism.

    Stressed mothers may simply decide to cut their losses. Perhaps finding that they cannot successfully rear or save their own kittens, it becomes preferable to try again at a later date or in a more favourable/safer location. However, she has invested a lot of effort in pregnancy and suckling those kittens (and in hunting for food for older kittens) so she eats them in order to reabsorb some of that energy investment. By reabsorbing the nutrients they gained from her, she will more quickly return to breeding condition and may successfully raise kittens later in the same breeding season. Some mothers will simply abandon kittens, but in doing so they lose whatever investment they put into partly rearing the offspring and might not breed again until the next season. This may also explain why some females kill some, but not all, kittens - by reducing the number of kittens in their litter, they increase the chances of successfully rearing their surviving kittens.

    Sometimes she will kill the kittens because they have been handled by another person or animal. Her own scent has been obscured and she either no longer recognises them as her own or she feels threatened and unable to escape. They either become prey - in size, sound, smell and movement - or she attempts to 'protect' them by the last resort method of killing them. A female that has prevously been in an abusive situation may be anxious with kittens and may kill them as a result; stress seems to over-ride normal maternal instincts.

    Where several litters have been born in one colony it is not unknown for one queen (generally the more dominant one) to either kill her rival's kittens or to 'kidnap' them. This may enhance the survival prospects of her own litter; it may remove the genetic competition from the other queen; it may be that the predatory queen's maternal instincts do not extend as far as recognising the other kittens as something other than prey or alternatively it may be that her attempts to kidnap the kittens and raise them as her own (over-developed maternal instinct?) result in the accidental death of the kittens as one queen tries to kidnap them and the other tries to defend them (even to the point of killing them herself). In a number of such cases the queens may move into a single communal nest and take turns in nursing the kittens, but in other cases some of the kittens (usually the smaller, more fragile, ones or those of the less dominant queen) die. The kidnapping of offspring is better documented in dogs, but has been observed in cats as well.

    Another cause of kitten killing is rare, but not impossible. An inexperienced or over-anxious mother may clean her kittens excessively. In some cases a queen has been known to bite off a kitten's paw, tail or ear due to excessive cleaning behaviour when the kitten is small and relatively fragile. In a very small number of cases, her efforts at cleaning (and restraint) are forceful enough to kill a tiny kitten. In an attempt to hygienically dispose of the body she may consume or partially consume it.

    Finally, kitten deaths occur naturally and for diverse reasons. Many queens will dispose of the body by removing it from the nest or moving the nest away from it. Another way of disposing of carrion is to eat it. Where the kitten is only partially consumed it may appear that the mother has killed it even if she is simply trying to dispose of a potential predator-magnet.

    If i had a cat, I'd make sure they can't have kittens


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭Gillo


    If i had a cat, I'd make sure they can't have kittens
    Use contraceptive's:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,749 ✭✭✭tony 2 tone


    Get a pet rock, then in a few years maybe chance a cactus or some earth worms. Work your way up to larger animals. :P

    Sorry to hear about your cats though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Cats suck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Crow71


    Hey op, i had a really bizarre day today too. Things like people being pissed with me for no reason and stuff breaking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    Ah Quazzie! why did ya give up with the thanks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭Saibh


    A7X wrote: »
    Ah Quazzie! why did ya give up with the thanks?


    You didn't mention the special word "cats"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    A7X wrote: »
    Ah Quazzie! why did ya give up with the thanks?

    The cat ate him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 197 ✭✭da_shivsta


    I'm very clumsy the last few days. Knocking over everything and bumping in to people. Not like me at all really.
    Also, I saw a little yellow train going aroung Galway, you know for this ocean race I think it musta been taking people around the city. Anyhoo, saw it once and never again..... It was weird and annoying, I wanted a go. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,391 ✭✭✭Captain-America


    There's a distinct lack of Keyboard Cat here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭RoundTower


    Does the cat look anything like this?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    Vain wrote: »
    The cat ate him.

    That's what I wanted


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    We have two dogs by the way. One of which is missing a leg.

    The other is just a bit mental, so nothing too wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭A7X


    RoundTower wrote: »
    Does the cat look anything like this?

    Oh god


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Crow71


    There's a distinct lack of Keyboard Cat here.
    Hey, cat it out!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    Crow71 wrote: »
    Hey op, i had a really bizarre day today too. Things like people being pissed with me for no reason and stuff breaking.

    Stop breaking their stuff then.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    to be fair OP you dont seem to broken up about 4 of your cats being dead.

    and id take a shovel to the head of the cat who ate the kittens. I dont think i could keep a pet who i knew ate 3 other kittens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    ottostreet wrote: »
    We have two dogs by the way. One of which is missing a leg.

    The other is just a bit mental, so nothing too wrong.

    You see the missing leg is worrying.

    As regards the other dog with mental issues, can I ask how long Kerry Katona has been living with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    Mmmm pussy........................cat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭Crow71


    Vain wrote: »
    Mmmm pussy........................cat
    You sound like your feline horny


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    to make it even more worrying, the dog thats missing a leg chewed it off. it was hit by a car about two years ago, and despite constant trips to the vet, would not stop chewing its back right leg. when it was gone, it stopped eating itself. the dog is absolutely fine now. the other dog is just a mental little yorkshire terrier, not actually mentally disturbed. as for being broke up about the cats, well, the poor kittens, it wasnt like i knew them. poor little happy cat getting knocked down. and the tomcat looks like he was out fighting, so its his own fault. as for baby-eater, well.. i fear her.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Hey... :( I thought this thread was going to be about bus's... :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    Hey... :( I thought this thread was going to be about bus's... :(

    Maybe a rename to something like

    'Cannibal cat eats children'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,859 ✭✭✭✭Sharpshooter


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Two hours later, my mother comes home and starts screaming. The mother was after eating all the kittens. Alive. Blood and bits of kitten everywhere.

    I'd report your mother for cruelty to animals,what a fcuking catastrophe.

    /WTF is wrong with chicken?:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,597 ✭✭✭anniehoo


    da_shivsta wrote: »
    Anyhoo,(

    Yeah? Oh ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    made this for you OP, hope you like..
    kittenseated.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,813 ✭✭✭BaconZombie


    Picture/Video or it did not happen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭ottostreet


    zuroph wrote: »
    made this for you OP, hope you like..
    kittenseated.jpg


    lol. you heartless monster. gonna print that off and hang it in my youngest sisters room. she'll love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,182 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    ottostreet wrote: »
    Or something like that. Just a strange day.

    We have had three cats for the last two years or so. One of them got pregnant and had her kittens last week. All was grand, and then the last 24 hours have been freaky. The new kittens were grand and healthy. Was watching the Monaco GP yesterday, then went outside to check the kittens. All fine, mother and kittens out in the sun. Two hours later, my mother comes home and starts screaming. The mother was after eating all the kittens. Alive. Blood and bits of kitten everywhere. Ah well.. Freaky cat. Back to having the three cats.

    Then, today, was driving out of my yard, and found one of the other cats dead on the road. Got smashed open by a car. Down to two cats. Then, two hours ago, the tomcat showed up with weird head injuries and is breathing oddly. Bringing him to the vet tomorrow but he doesn't appear too well. So...we're left with freaky child-eating cat, who, in the last half hour, has started vomiting and ****ting everywhere. It's yowling and keeps rolling around on its back as well. I'm getting a bit freaked out. Just over 24 hours ago, we had six healthy, normal cats. Now we have two ****ed up ones.

    Anyone else ever had strange occurences that seem to keep happening in a short period of time? Yes, I know this is a very tenuous link, but feck it!
    Had a hex cast upon you by a gypsy recently?

    The alternative to that is perhaps that you somehow triggered the killer instinct in the mother when you visited the kittens the 2 hours previous, as in Panda's article.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭Puck


    Cats, there's just something about them. Aside from a few individuals I don't trust them. The dead animals they leave on your doorstep are not gifts, they're warnings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    Puck wrote: »
    Cats, there's just something about them. Aside from a few individuals I don't trust them. The dead animals they leave on your doorstep are not gifts, they're warnings.

    It's only a matter of time before a horses head is left on his pillow while Mama cat sits quietly in the corner casually inspecting her paw desperately trying to look innocent.

    My neighbour has a cat who makes a point of giving me the dirty cat eye at least once a day. He gives me the heebie jeebies & is seemingly some sort of acrobatic/ ninja cat -the way he dodges a car has to be admired.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,097 ✭✭✭kiffer


    if the kittens die mammy cat will eat them... She may not have killed them.
    Mammy cat is now getting sick...
    Check for poisoning?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,689 ✭✭✭Vain


    It wasnt the cat, It was snyper.

    See here https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/74976/79919.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    This thread needs some theme music






    (This should have been posted WAAAY sooner btw)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Winnerd


    This isn't about buses at at...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Winnerd wrote: »
    This isn't about buses at at...

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60402095&postcount=31

    Pussy (even the dead ones) trump all things Dublin Bus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Winnerd wrote: »
    This isn't about buses at at...

    I think you'll like these guys

    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=246


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    This story has a hint of an apocylpse about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭Rented Mule


    Insurgent wrote: »
    This story has a hint of an apocylpse about it.

    Especially if you are a kitten.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    glad u liked the pic OP, make sure to let us know how you get on with hanging it in the sister room ;)


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