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My comparative essay, please tell me it's good..

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  • 28-05-2009 10:40pm
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    Could someone please read this and tell me what they think? Its a General Vision & Viewpoint essay...
    Also, bold=comparison/linking words(or what I consider to be a link :D )
    Have 26 links, so if I get 1 mark for each(assuming thats how it works), I've reached full marks in comparisons... (21marks total for comparisons in marking scheme)
    Used notes from all over the place.. GV&V is hard :<


    The texts I am dealing with are Philadelphia, Here I come(PHIC) by Brian Frield, Cinema Paradiso(CP) by Giuseppe Tornatore and The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time(CI) by Mark Haddon.

    The general vision and viewpoint of any text may be optimistic or pessimistic or a mix of both. PHIC and CI both present a pessimistic vision of society. In the small town of Ballybeg, Gar is departing for Philadelphia because of a failure in communication between him and the two most important people in his life, while in CI, there is an underlying pessimism for most of the text, linked directly to the difficulties caused by Christopher's Asperger's Syndrome. In contrast to both, in CP the general view point is optimistic because the mature Toto is able to come to terms with the abrupt rupture in his relationship with arguably the most important person in his life when he views the present Alfredo as having left him.

    Gar fails to communicate with his father, SB. even on his last night before leaving. The most dramatic example of this is when he attempts to get SB to recall the precious moment of their time together on Lough na Cloc Cor. He recalls that SB threw his coat around his son and began to sing spontaneously 'All around my hat', a scene that would seem more expected of Toto and Alfredo. Unfortunately, SB is unable to remember the occasion and the attempt to communicate is cut short. This strained level of communication is also prevalent in CI, although almost entirely due to Christophers condition rather than apathy/otherwise. The inability to have flowing conversation between Christopher and his father acts as an obstacle between the two and greatly contributes to the pessimistic undertones in the text. On the other hand, perhaps the most dramatic moment in CP that demonstrates its optimistic vision is the altruism of the substitute father for his son in ordering Toto to leave Giancaldo forever and forge his future as a film director. I will always remember the abruptness of his last words to Toto that he did not want to hear him again but hear of him. A case of tough love I feel.

    In PHIC it is difficult to see that SB would ever have been so active in Gar's life. It being that it was only on the night before Gar's departure that either of the two made any attempt to reconstruct their lost bond, the idea of them reaching a stage of relationship similar to that of Alfredo and Toto is unlikely. SB is unable to articulate any personal feelings by contrast with Alfredo who is supportive of Toto in matters of career and an advisor to him in the matter of love. In addition, while the father/son relationship of CI lacks the trivial conversation of Gar and SB, and the expression of Toto/Alfredo, the relationship is still very much a strong with Christopher's father caring for his son on his own and ensuring that Christopher's daily routine has a set structure to which his son can follow and feel secure with. It appears a very possible outcome that Christopher's father would continue playing a positive, supportive and central role throughout his sons life, rendering PHIC quite unique on this matter.

    In PHIC, Gar's mother is deceased but their housekeeper, Madge, becomes like a surrogate mother to the troubled Gar, much like Alfredo acts like a surrogate father to a troublesome young Toto. Madge tries, admittedly in vain, to encourage father and son to communicate. The relationship between Gar and Made is indeed positive and we realise that she will miss him a great deal. In 'Cinema Paradsio' the young Toto is a handful and his grieving mother finds it difficult to cope with him. This is a feeling shared by Christopher's mam in CI, in that Christopher's difficulties and often stubborness has caused her a great deal of stress. As with Toto's mother, Christophers mother deals with marital problems and her inability to cope with her domestic life leads to an affair and subsequently to her leaving home. There is no such option availabile to Toto's mother, nor does she , in my opinion want it. We see at the end of the text how she has kept his room, like a shrine, a sign of her love and affection for him. It is also worth noting that this is in stark contrast to CI, whereby Christopher's mother has no room prepared for her son at all upon his arrival in London, contributing further to the pessimistic view of the relationship.

    The society of a text can be conveyed in a pessimistic view, and in an optimistic view in the other texts But on occasion a text can express elements of both. Over the course of thirty years progress seems to change the lifestyle of Giancaldo's inhabitants for the worse, according to Tornatore. What was once an intimate and friendly place to live in has become a village choked by cars and a community whos people have become distant from one another, very similar to that of Christopher's locality and neighbours, the majority of whom he has never spoke to. Who can forget the cortege of Alfredo's funeral barely able to negotiate a way through the car littered street and then the blowing up of the paradiso symbolising the end of an era. This pessimism is also a dominant feature of Ballybeg, whos name is the anglicisation of Baile Beag, intentionally chosen by Friel as it translates to 'small town', further reinforcing the image of a secluded village. Ballybeg is somewhat of a mix between Giancaldo with regards to era and societal views, and Swindon, Christopher's hometown, which bares the simlarity of lacking excitement and positivity within the community. The pessimistic view of Christopher's neighbourhood is further portrayed in that Christopher is told to stay away from the people living next door, who are said to be drug addicts, and the scandal of affairs occuring between his own parents and some of their neighbours.

    By the end of texts, both CI and CP finish on somewhat of a positive point, while in PHIC the conclusion is quite the opposite. In CP, Toto smiles, if tearfully as the images of the edited passion scenes put together for him by Alfredo as a memento of their friendship; Toto's mother remains the custodian of his childhood museum, ever faithful in the belief that he would one day return and Toto has fulfilled his dream of becoming a successful director. Likewise, in CI, Christopher is reuinted with mother and father who agree to make more of an effort in settling their differences, with the feud between father and son being joyfully reconciled with a gift to Christopher of a new puppy. On the other hand, in PHIC the general vission stays stubbornly pessimistic. Gar's future remains uncertain, his singing is no longer confident and both father and son remain trapped behind emotional walls of silence broken only by the functional conversation of their daily predictable lives.

    Through my study of the comparative texts, I have found that the general vision of texts enables us to establish a greater understanding of the character themselves,to appreciate at a deeper level what happens in the lives of the protagonists, and perhaps may mirror in some way what could happen in our own.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Dante


    Yoink.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,143 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    Yoink.

    I was thinking the same thing :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Dante


    creggy wrote: »
    I was thinking the same thing :pac:

    Haha it'd be gas if somebody actually copied it and got done for plagiarism! :P

    But in all seriousness yea it seems good from flicking through it....better than the one I'm learning off! Veeeerrrryyy tempting.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Sounds good, Id throw in one or two quotes though just for the hell of it. The part about Magde being a surrogate mother might be apt point to add a quote about her stimulating conversations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭ImJohn


    You'd never get caught for copying unless your very unlucky ;) . (not saying I'm going to copy, unless you write up an cultural context question :D)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    Honestly? I am familiar with the three subjects although you just touch on one. If I was the examiner I would say you are correct in all you surmise and observe and report. But,but but...................................I dont want to hurt your feelings but I was bored 3 lines in. Tell me, the reader what YOU feel about the story,yourself,not what you think is animatically correct. Do you understand what I mean? Am I making sense to you?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 284 ✭✭We


    I do understand gollyitsgolly.. only problem is I find it hard to make it interesting when I have absolutely no interest in the topic myself :p


    -also, feel free to rob if you think its worthy...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Swizz


    Im going send this to the appropriate authority and anyone who uses it will get what they deserve.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 284 ✭✭We


    Swizz wrote: »
    Im going send this to the appropriate authority and anyone who uses it will get what they deserve.

    Me? I wrote it, using notes admittedly, but still.. lawl


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Dante


    Swizz wrote: »
    Im going send this to the appropriate authority and anyone who uses it will get what they deserve.

    Wheeyyyyyy! There goes hours of your man's time down the swanny!


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  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I dont want to hurt your feelings but I was bored 3 lines in. Tell me, the reader what YOU feel about the story,yourself,not what you think is animatically correct. Do you understand what I mean? Am I making sense to you?

    +1

    To be honest I found exactly the same thing. You aren't engaging with the texts, you're just saying what's happening. If you want to get high marks engage with the texts on a personal level.


  • Registered Users Posts: 674 ✭✭✭gollyitsolly


    We wrote: »
    I do understand gollyitsgolly.. only problem is I find it hard to make it interesting when I have absolutely no interest in the topic myself :p


    -also, feel free to rob if you think its worthy...
    OK. Put it this way. Change the year? Change the name ? Change the location? I have a son. The year is 2009. He,s 19. He is in his last year of training to be an electrician? Does he go away, does he stay? Put yourself in his position, it is an age old dilemma,the future versus the past. Will I go or will I stay? All the classics tell the same story just the year and names change!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,143 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    Swizz wrote: »
    Im going send this to the appropriate authority and anyone who uses it will get what they deserve.

    You used to be cool.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭ImJohn


    He is joking lol, as if they'd even listen to him if he did :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 516 ✭✭✭Gloom


    It's all going to depend on the question.
    Plus, you have no personal response in your answer. =/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Tbh I dont take much stock in a essay not being "boring" for Paper 2. Paper 1 is where you want to get the examiner drooling over you.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 284 ✭✭We


    Gloom wrote: »
    It's all going to depend on the question.
    Plus, you have no personal response in your answer. =/

    I actually just realised that this morning.. was thinkin about the essay and realised I forgot about it completely.. Personal response is also the paragraph you can tinker with a bit to gear your essay more towards the title and hide the fact that you would write the same essay for every GV+V question they asked :p

    Thanks for reminder though ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    Gah...there's meant to be personal response?? Jaysus. We were just told stick in your reaction to the resolutions of the texts, not sustain a personal response throughought. Oh Dear :(


    Does this apply for other areas of paper 2 where you're not specifically asked for a personal response?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 gotabi


    That essay is brilliant!

    wish there was enough time for me to learn it haha


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭JSK 252


    My interpretation of personal response, is a personal input into an aspect of the texts you are discussing. For example in my Culutral context essay when I talk about education in the three texts, the following could be added at the end of the paragraph, say after discussing how Chris In the Curious Incident seeks to do his A levels and the whole world ( he, his father, the reverend, the school) supporting him:

    This in turn emulates our values and idelogy of education being viewed as medium, through which an individual can strive to his or her potential.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,253 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    gotabi wrote: »
    That essay is brilliant!

    wish there was enough time for me to learn it haha

    I plan to just learn a few key points and just blabber on about how they all intertwine. My teacher told me to write down common themes and stuff like that from all the books e.g. fatherhood, love etc. and think about how you can intertwine them


  • Registered Users Posts: 656 ✭✭✭Richard Cranium


    Piste wrote: »
    Gah...there's meant to be personal response?? Jaysus. We were just told stick in your reaction to the resolutions of the texts, not sustain a personal response throughought. Oh Dear :(


    Does this apply for other areas of paper 2 where you're not specifically asked for a personal response?


    As far as I'm aware, personal response needs to be sprinkled everywhere in Paper 2 yeah, sort of mixed in with how you make your points.

    I think this mainly means that they are looking for:
    "I felt that this image/simile/development/whatever showed strongly that..."

    rather than just factually stating that:
    "This shows that..."


    That's what I've gathered from Tony Lake anyway (he of New English Keynotes fame). Maybe I missed his point over the past couple of years, I dunno.
    My Irish teacher had a point too when he said that it's much harder to mark a student wrong if they say that they felt or they thought that something was being shown or suggested, rather than stating as a fact that it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 203 ✭✭ImJohn


    For English in my mocks I learned off ~ 5 quotes the night before the exam and got 85% in the poetry section lol. I honestly had no clue what I was talking about. My teacher said I got that becuase all I talked about was I, I, and I. I related everything to me even though half of it was wrong :pac: If its a personal response just keep saying how you feel about things, disagree on some things too and why.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


    Regarding the personal response: Piste asked me about this earlier so I went and found an old essay I did from last year. I didn't even use the word "I" in it, so no personal response at all. It was different for poetry as they seemed to ask for a personal response, but for the comparative I kept it pretty academic.

    EDIT: Here's the first paragraph, just to give an idea of the tone of it...
    "The following essay shall deal with the theme of power and control and its development in three diverse texts. These texts are "Lies of Silence" by Brian Moore, "The Truman Show" directed by Peter Wier, and "The Crucible" by Arthur Miller. They shall hereafter be abbreviated to "LoS", "TTS" and "TC" respectively, for ease of reference."

    EDIT2: I should probably mention that I got an A1 in English, so I couldn't have done THAT badly in the comparative...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭PurpleFistMixer


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    Yes, basically. My class picked 3 random texts which had almost nothing in common with each other so we ended up doing a pretty abstract theme (see my above post), but generally a class will do texts their teacher picked and will already know the connecting theme (or so it would appear). The point of it seems a bit harder to figure out, though...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,762 ✭✭✭turgon


    Didnt you do comparative DF?

    Well your supposed to compare them on issues or themes that bear semblance.

    So for example the "lack of communication" is a common theme in all three texts I studied for my LC, allowing you to compare how each author showed this lack of communication.


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