Is hippie bashing in Ireland on the rise?

97i9y3941

they do be off their heads,talk bollox,they should join the green party or be shipped off to iran...

well horse

Hippies are just naive, often hypocritical, bastards. What I wouldn't have gived to have been able to crack the skulls of a few of the crusty cnunts at that protest in London a while ago....arghhh. After having enjoyed the benefits of growing up and obtaining an education in a capatalistic society they condemn it, despite the fact that living in a capatilistic society affords them the very right to protest that they are taking advantage of

They dont want free trade despite the fact that it has been proven to increase the wealth of nations that engage in it.

They admire socialist, even communist, ideolgies, despite the fact that countries like North Korea and Russia are among the most unhappy places on earth.

They think they are more moral people than you or I, because we have the cop-on to know that life isn't meant to be a communal experience of happiness.

mayordenis

well horse wrote: »

They admire socialist, even communist, ideolgies, despite the fact that countries like North Korea and Russia are among the most unhappy places on earth.

I was kinda with you till this part

That's not really fair on socialism tbh.

well horse

mayordenis wrote: »

I was kinda with you till this part

That's not really fair on socialism tbh.

Well, I'm still not in favour of socialism but I suppose people in lightly socialist countires arn't extremely unhappy.
point taken

97i9y3941

blah i think they need to accept war is inevitable and we are always gonna have poverty...

thelordofcheese

well horse wrote: »

Hippies are just naive, often hypocritical, bastards. What I wouldn't have gived to have been able to crack the skulls of a few of the crusty cnunts at that protest in London a while ago....arghhh. After having enjoyed the benefits of growing up and obtaining an education in a capatalistic society they condemn it, despite the fact that living in a capatilistic society affords them the very right to protest that they are taking advantage of

They dont want free trade despite the fact that it has been proven to increase the wealth of nations that engage in it.

They admire socialist, even communist, ideolgies, despite the fact that countries like North Korea and Russia are among the most unhappy places on earth.

They think they are more moral people than you or I, because we have the cop-on to know that life isn't meant to be a communal experience of happiness.

In other news, all northside dublin people are scum and all women are whores.
More sweeping and horrible generalisations as we get them.

pirelli

6th wrote: »

Moved from Conspirancy Theories?!

That says it all! It's a conspiracy or it's the stuff you put in those thick roll ups some hippies or its the fact that you think your better than everyone else and that "the people" are bad for being people when in fact hippies can be real snot bags sometimes.

Sunset V

Hope so...

well horse

thelordofcheese wrote: »

In other news, all northside dublin people are scum and all women are whores.
More sweeping and horrible generalisations as we get them.

Stop creating a straw man. Obviously all northside people arn't scum and obviously all women arn't whores; far from it in fact. But people who hold sterotypical hippy beliefs always hang around with and associate with other people who hold similar beliefs. Also, people only "become hippies" because they agree with the general set of hippy beliefs.

thelordofcheese

well horse wrote: »

Stop creating a straw man. Obviously all northside people arn't scum and obviously all women arn't whores; far from it in fact. But people who hold sterotypical hippy beliefs always hang around with and associate with other people who hold similar beliefs. Also, people only "become hippies" because they agree with the general set of hippy beliefs.

Actually, it's a reducto ad absurdum. The point being to highlight the inanity of your original assessment by taking it to a silly extreme.

I also like how your defense is "no, that's silly, those are horrible, inaccurate sterotypes, MY sterotype on the other hand...."

well horse

thelordofcheese wrote: »

Actually, it's a reducto ad absurdum. The point being to highlight the inanity of your original assessment by taking it to a silly extreme.

I also like how your defense is "no, that's silly, those are horrible, inaccurate sterotypes, MY sterotype on the other hand...."

Thanks, I think it makes sense also. And what's more, I only had to use common sense to think it up.

Morlar

Is hippie bashing in Ireland on the rise?

Only if we all work together on this one.

RasTa

I've started driving by the dole office when it's sign on day shouting get a job hippies to all the bums queuing up.

thelordofcheese

well horse wrote: »

Thanks, I think it makes sense also. And what's more, I only had to use common sense to think it up.

That wasn't a complement....

Wompa1

Nodin wrote: »

Galway used be popular with the hippy set. If theres none there, they must be gone with the Leprachauns....

Galway is over run with them! I was trying to figure out how many people were unemployed in Galway City yesterday when the figures for the register said 11,900. Between dole seekers, students, single mothers and others on benefits I reckon we're not too far away from half the people in this city being unemployed. Granted that doesn't make everyone of them Hippies bad theres some potential there.

My reasoning for nearly half being 11,900 + around 15,000 students + ???? (single mothers and other people on benefits that differ to the dole) and the population of the city being around 70,000. Juggler numbers are on the rise...if we don't stop them soon they won't just be down in the Spanish Arch and Eyre Square they'll be in our gardens!

Nodin

Wompa1 wrote: »

My reasoning for nearly half being 11,900 + around 15,000 students + ???? (single mothers and other people on benefits that differ to the dole) and the population of the city being around 70,000. Juggler numbers are on the rise...if we don't stop them soon they won't just be down in the Spanish Arch and Eyre Square they'll be in our gardens!

Don't panic. That gardening show on RTE had a few tips for dealing with them. Put a picture of Archbishop McQuaid in your window, and a sign saying "Jobs Available-Apply with in" on the gate and they'll come nowhere near ye.

We shouldn't be harsh though...hippy numbers are down since the "Nigerian" has become the scape-goat of choice.....

PrivateEye

Galway seems to have the majority of the Veganites, not to mention a fair bit of Pagan sh/te going on too.

Seems plenty of people are mixing up left-wing politics with hippy sh/te in this thread too. How does a thread on hippies become a debate on socialism for example? Can you find any similiarities between genuine socialists and hippies? I think you'll find we've very little time for them Camping in a tree for a month only takes away from real struggles and political issues.

They admire socialist, even communist, ideolgies, despite the fact that countries like North Korea and Russia are among the most unhappy places on earth.

*facepalm*

Give Orwells Homage To Catalonia a read, for an idea of what socialism looked like Lenin and Stalins paradise was state-capitalism, and indeed state-capitalism with very, very ugly repression. To hell with the two of them.

Dudess

Yeah, Orwell was unabashedly socialist (as in, social justice and equality), he had no time for communism though - and indeed expressed his disgust at it with Nineteen Eighty Four.

I'm still not sure what "hippy" means. Does it apply to people who are reminiscent of the "flower children" one would associate with the counter-culture of the late 1960s/early 1970s, "crusties", leftie students, or those who have a job but embrace the same views as the former?

Morlar

Dudess wrote: »

Yeah, Orwell was unabashedly socialist (as in, social justice and equality), he had no time for communism though - and indeed expressed his disgust at it with Nineteen Eighty Four.

I'm still not sure what "hippy" means. Does it apply to people who are reminiscent of the "flower children" one would associate with the counter-culture of the late 1960s/early 1970s, "crusties", leftie students, or those who have a job but embrace the same views as the former?

I'd say anyone with that kind of worldview or its contemporary equivalent - regardless of whether they are employed or not.

Belfast

Fred83 wrote: »

blah i think they need to accept war is inevitable and we are always gonna have poverty...

As Patton said "Only the dead have seen the last of war"

according to the church "The poor we will always have with us".

97i9y3941

i dont think scientolgy will take you if your poor lol

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Degsy wrote: »

YOU HAVE NO POWER TO AFFECT CHANGE.
yOU COULDNT HACK IT IN IREALND SO YOU MOVED TO BERLIN TO PAINT MURALS AND WORK IN A CALL CENTRE..HARDLY GOING TO HAVE THE ESTABLISHMENT QUAKING IN ITS BOOTS NOW IS IT?
What was your plan?
"I'll change ireland by leaving it"?
Way to go.
Just to show that hippies are innefectual,the hippy green party completely fcucked up any chance they had of making a difference and now they've been kicked to the curb(by people terrified of change no doubt).

Ouch with the capitals! Someone hit a nerve...

Anyway, the usual priliminaries (seeing as you chickened out AGAIN):
1 - What to you is a hiipy
2 - What is it I can't "hack" in Ireland?

As for the rest of it: I'm quiet happy in Berling running my own business and working in a call centre. Hardly the lifestyle of a "job-dodging hippy". What was my plan? By happier.

"Change Ireland by leaving it?" What in Heaven's name made you think I want to change Ireland? Seriously?! That's a bad guess even by your standards.

Have no idea what the HELL you are talking about re "the establishment quaking in it's boots": I don't think they care about me any more than I care about them.

chappy_chap

yes it is ive done a few myself in my time haha...

sells

youre all racist,

chappy_chap

sells wrote: »

youre all racist,

welcome to the internet:pac:

sells

oh no ive been here a long time.......there still racist though.....damn racists,

ultain

Degsy wrote: »

I particularly hate hippies who move abroad and peddle thier anti-irish nonsense from behind a keyboard.
There's nothing "different" about being a hippy,its just an unwillingness to wash and a chip on your shoulder about about people with strongly held beliefs.

To true, to true, a real hippy (not a large women) would not be within a mile of a p.c for a start. It's plonkers like these upper class drop outs who give the real earth dudes a very bad image, i have found the real article work hard and live theri own life, not bitch about goverments or how bad the world is due to 'the man'.

ultain

Belfast wrote: »

How to Be a Hippie
http://www.wikihow.com/Be-a-Hippie

:Dgreat link (is that site for real?)

97i9y3941

john lennon was a hippie,but i think half time he was just off his head,like the bed in *such a rubbish stunt to pull..

4zn76tysfajdxp

Fred83 wrote: »

john lennon was a hippie,but i think half time he was just off his head,like the bed in *such a rubbish stunt to pull..

John Lennon was an idiot. I love the music he wrote but jesus christ, he could be some moron sometimes. He was sincerely convinced that his foolish stunts were saving lives. :rolleyes: