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Rate My Answer Thread

  • 29-05-2009 4:27pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭


    Can we have a rate my answer thread? :) I was inspired by the comparative essay one someone posted. I think it'd be a good way to revise your answers by typing them out and also a great way to get feedback from other people! Seriously any advice would be appreciated. :)

    I'll start, this is my personal response to John Keats' poetry.




    I enjoyed the poetry of John Keats because of his universal themes, vivid imagery and detailed descriptions. I also found his personal and intimate style of writing, interesting choice of words and use of contrast very appealing.

    Keats explores a wide range of themes throughout his poetry, many of which are universal and easy to relate to, for example the theme of life and death. I'n 'When I Have Fears that I May Cease to Be' Keats uses a euphemism for death in the title to express his horror at the concept of mortality. He laments what death will prevent him from experiencing:'the night's starr'd face' and 'huge cloudy symbols.' He is saddened at the thought of losing his inspirations and dying before 'my pen has glean'd my teeming brain.' I think his fears of death and not fulfilling his dreams before the end of his life are understandable and common to all people. This drew my interest effectively. In 'Bright Star' Keats expresses his wish to be immortal and unchanging like the star he sees in the night sky. This poem is one of my favourites because like many of us Keats doesn't want to change with time or face the inevitable end to his life. He envies this distant star 'Would I were as steadfast as thou art.' His awareness of death led him to explore things that don't age or die such as the immortalising power of art, literature and the imagination.

    In 'Ode to a Nightingale,' Keats seems to have become lost in his imagination, believing himself to be part of an unrealistic, perfect and immortal world, 'Already with thee tender is the night.' Keats looks for a means of escape though the medium of alcohol 'O, for a draught of vintage!' which I think would be a common reaction to the idea of facing your own demise. Keats' realism and honesty highlights the theme of death and immortality making it all the more effective to the reader. This is an aspect of his poetry which I found very appealing.

    Another reason why I liked the poetry of Keats is due to his use of vivd imagery and memorable descriptions. Keats uses his painter's eye to acutely idenitfy and describe his images. Through this technique, he presents us with often unrealistic but still detailed and accurate images. This means that although his poetry may stretch into the fantastical at times, it is still believable and realistic through the intensity of detail. This kept me interested is his poetry.

    It can be seen in 'Ode on a Grecian Urn' Here Keats describes the image of the inanimate urn, an immortal artefact holding what was once a mortal being. This contrast appeals to me and draws me into his poetry. He compares the eternal existence of this non-living urn to the image of the warm, passionate yet brief human life. He represents it 'For ever panting and for ever young' and with 'A burning forehead, and a parching tongue.' For me this description captured the excitement and emotional experience of youth perfectly, making it one of my favourite images created by Keats.

    In 'Ode to a Nightingale' the image of sparkling wine is produced in perfect deatil. This image is obviously a realistic one, but this acute description gives it the same level of allure as his more supernatural images. 'Beaded bubbles winking at the brim' and 'purple-stained mouth' in the 'beaker full of the warm South.' This is a clear allusion to the fountain of Hippocrene, which I found effective. Elsewhere in 'When I Have Fears...' the night sky is referred to rather as 'the night's starr'd face' with 'huge cloudy symbols of a high romance.' While verging on the unrealistic, the detail and beauty of the image makes it seem more realistic and makes it memorable. This helped meto engage with the creativity of Keats' imagination.

    Along with his vivd imagery, John Keats' poetry is enjoyable because of his use of contrasts. They litter his poetry, something I didn't find in the poetry of the other poets on the course. This made an interesting change. I liked the contrast apparent in 'Bright Star,' in which keats proceeds to contrats the coldness of the star and it's immortality with the warmth of human love, however transient. The opening octet of the poem is the complete polar opposite of the ending sestet. The octet is longer, slower and passionless in its description of the star's eternal existence, continual vowel sounds depicting it's interminable coldness. The sestet expresses a warmth, a pulse through it's lively rhythm and whisperingly soft 's' sounds. This perfectly describes the emotional experience of human life and is the octet's definitive opposite. I loved the contrast in this poem and it inspired me to continue my reading of Keats' poetry.

    Keats alsos uses contrast in 'Od on a Grecian Urn' when he addresses the subject of the poem. He comments on the inanimate qualities of the urn(to contrast with the vibrancy of life) by remarking on its having no senses, so the pipes cannt play to 'the sensual ear.' However elsewhere in the poem he does the opposite, by personifying the urn through the use of the personal prooun 'thou,' such as remarking 'Thou still unrvished bride of quietness.'

    I thoroughly enjoyed the poetry of John Keats due to his use of contrast, detailed, descriptive imagery and universal themes as well as his personal, confessional style. These techniques combined to further my appreciation of his poetry and increase its personal appeal for me as a reader.



    My teacher gave this 76%(she's a very hard marker btw), any ideas on how I can improve it?



    Everyone add their comments and their own answers too! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    .....e theme of death and immortality making it all the more effective to the reader. This is an aspect of his poetry which I found very appealing.

    Another reason why I liked the poetry of Keats is due to his use of vivd imagery and memorable descriptions. Ke....

    You could make that bit flow a bit more and get some marks in cohesion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,229 ✭✭✭pathway33


    This is an aspect of his poetry which I found very appealing.

    Another reason why I liked the poetry of Keats is due to his use of vivd imagery and memorable descriptions.

    This is an aspect of his poetry which I find very appealing.

    Another reason I like the poetry of Keats.


    Past tense means you liked him but may not like him now? is present tense better? dunno


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Fringe wrote: »
    You could make that bit flow a bit more and get some marks in cohesion.

    I cant really think of a way to link them together any better, can you by any chance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,440 ✭✭✭✭Piste


    I like this thread! Good idea!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭Dante


    Your concluding paragraph is completely repeating your opening....some examiners will mark you down for that. You also have little if no quotes in the whole thing which would definitely effect your grade.
    /critisism :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭blue-army


    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Having studied the poetry of Elizabeth Bishop as part of my Leaving Cert course I would very much agree that her poetry gives us a deep insight into both her own life and life in general.[/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Bishop is a very personal poet, who is extremely passionate about her work. Her coloured childhood features regularly throughout. Bishop, unlike many poets, refuses to write about any random topic or issue. She will only write about something that she is truely passionate about.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Having studied an array of her work, I have noticed that, although her poetry is personal, it is also extremely universal and easy to relate to.[/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]One of Bishop's greatest poems is “The Fish.” This is a poem where both poet and reader are uplifted by a positive, reassuring insight into human life.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]She uses her keen eye for detail in noting the fish's “frightened gills.” Furthermore, domestic imagery is used when comparing the fishes “skin” to “strips of wallpaper.” [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]The fish, like Bishop, has lived a hard life. We are told that there was “five old pieces of fish-line” hanging from “his lower lip.”[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]When she catches it, she describes how it comes “straight out of water/into the terrible oxygen.” Here a link can be made with oxygen being a struggle for both the fish and Bishop, who suffered from a severe form of asthma. The poem ends on a high as we hear that Bishop “let” the fish “go.” A use of alliteration was used to describe the new mood of the poet when she reveals everything is now “rainbow, rainbow, rainbow.” [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]I think that, in letting the fish, both it and Bishop get a new lease on life.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Another truely personal poem of Bishop's is “Filling Station.” Here, direct references can be made to her mother who was hospitalized due to mental illness when she was young.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]There is no mother in the poem, but we are constantly reminded of the need for one. The tone is maternal as we are told “oh but it is filthy” and “don't light the match/ it's a family filling station.” [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]The place is, overall, described as being dirty. We are told that it's “oil-soaked” and “a dirty dog” sits on “a wicker sofa.” However, we are told that it is “comfy.” The homely feeling continues as we are told of “Father wears a dirty suit” and his “greasy sons assist him.” Despite the filth described, it's clear that there is love in the poem between the them. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]I also liked the assonance in the way the barrels of oil were arranged - “ESSO-so-so-so.” This repetition of the soothing “so” sound is a clever use of personification. The poet concludes that there is always someone doing their best to quietly. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]The sense of family life in “Filling Station” can, again, be felt [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]in “First Death in Nova Scotia.”[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Here, Bishop is coming to terms with the death of her “little cousin Arthur.” She tries to come to terms with this by asking [/FONT]
    “[FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Why did he die so young/clutching his tiny lily/in the snow.” [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]As a child, Bishop was very observant and this allows her to create memorable imagery of even the most insignificant things. The image that stood out most to me was her description of the marble topped table as being a “white, frozen lake” and Arthur's coffin on top of it as being like “a little frosted cake.”[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Additionally, the description of the lifeless loon as “cold and caressable” effectively conveys the child's confusion when confronted by death. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]The simile comparing “little Arthur” to “a doll that hadn't been painted yet” is very moving as it highlights the tragedy of the child's death. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]Bishop sadly concludes this poem saying that her lifeless cousin, trapped in the embrace of death and “clutching his tiny lilly” will be unable to travel “roads deep in snow.” It is the childs perspective on death that makes this poem so poignant. [/FONT]


    “[FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]In the Waiting Room” is another poem rooted in a childhood experience. What makes the poem particularly interesting is the manner in which it portrays the dawning of adult awareness in the young Elizabeth Bishop. Once again, the use of the first person and the conversational tone draw us into the poem: I went with Aunt Consuelo/to keep her dentist appointment”. We see that, even as a child, Bishop was alert of the world around her: “The waiting room/ was full of grown-up people, / arctics and overcoats, / lamps and magazines.” The striking memorable images of African women with “necks/ wound round and round with wire/ like the necks of lightbulbs” introduces Bishop to a wider, frightening world.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]The image of their “horrifying” breasts suggests the suffering involved in raising children. [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]It is interesting to observe how the poets outer description leads to inner reflection. Bishops identification with the suffering of other women is suggested by the strange sense that she has her aunt's cry of pain coming from her own mouth: “Without thinking/ I was my foolish aunt.” Bishop comes to the conclusion that all women are united in suffering. It is the inevitability if this female suffering that “held us all together / or made us all just one.” This poem is, again, both wonderfully descriptive and strikingly insightful. While Bishop is aware of her own individuality, it is as if all women fuse into one in a sense of shared suffering: “But I felt you are an I, / you are an Elizabeth, / you are one of them.” Poet and reader alike are challenged by a dramatic insight which suggests that individual identity is more important than gender in the shaping of a womens identity.[/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial Unicode MS, sans-serif]To conclude, I very much enjoyed the poetry of Elizabeth Bishop, particularly because of its moments of insight. Her unquestionable ability to probe beneath outer appearances and discover universal truths is very impressive and interesting. In terms of her style, I was struck by her remarkably vivid descriptions, unusual similes and metaphors. She is definately a poet I genuinely enjoyed studying and is one whom I would highly recommend.[/FONT]



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    I think I'll join in.



    Elizabeth Bishop is an interesting poet. She is not like other poets who narrowly deal with a small range of issues. Instead, her subject matter is very broad. She writes about what she observes. Her observations are often trivial but she still raises questions about human behaviour through them. She binds this together with her fascinating use of imagery which is very well illustrated.

    Firstly, Bishop does not stick to one constant subject matter. Her work is incredibly dynamic. It varies from a day of fishing to the long wait in a "dentist's waiting room." I find that I enjoy this variation. Moving from one subject to another was refreshing. Bishop offers something new in each poem unlike other poets who only talk about the sea or their family. By delving into many issues like a filling station and armadillos, I felt that Bishop's themes were never diminished from repetition.

    I felt that there was an underlying reason as to why Bishop's themes were so dynamic. This is because she is an observer. She observes the nuances of her environment. For example, in Filling Station, she notices a minute "extraneous plant" in the huge filling station. It is interesting to observe her observant nature as she makes a remark about the small details of life. More importantly, Bishop has a very inquisitive nature and when combined with her observant nature, she has the ability to question her observations and relate these questions to human nature. She questions travelling, "should we have stayed at home, wherever that may be?" or perhaps that "somebody loves us all." I found all this incredibly intriguing. Bishop's ability to forensically examine her surroundings is fascinating. How someone can analyse particular superficial things is quite compelling. Having mentioned her questioning nature, her actual questions are worth experiencing.

    Her work is very thought provoking. It really makes me think about life. I enjoyed it all and particularly In the Waiting Room, a question of identity, "you are an I." She poses many other questions about life like humans' need to travel and humans' need to fish for sport. I found it all intellectually provocative and this makes her an interesting poet. I find that the topic of human behaviour is a remarkable issue that she addresses incredibly well. What she does to make these questions effectively provoke is that her work is non-didatic. In her poetry, she never imposes her beliefs onto others. She merely poses the question and lets the reader decide. In Questions of Travels, she asks plenty of questions, "where should we be today?" Not once does she answer her questions. I felt that her poetry was an excellent read because of this. Instead of listening to complaints, I can appreciate Bishop's poetry and her thought provoking issues. I am challenged by her quetions and this makes her poetry interactive.

    Her most interactive aspect though is her excellent use of imagery. Bishop may not have a common theme but she does have a trademark use of imagery. The most interactive part of her imagery is the use of tactile imagery. In the Filling Station, the area is extremely dirty with an "oil soaked monkey suit." The best example of tactile imagery is in The Fish where the fish has "brown skin hung in strips" and "coarse white flesh packed in like feathers." The effect is that her poetry becomes very three-dimensional and it adds a new level to her poetry. I was deeply immersed in the poetry as I experienced the imagery.

    She also employs the use of colour heavily. The colour helps add to the tone by evoking emotions. "The brown enormous odor" at the start of The Prodigal instantly sets a sick disgusting tone while the colour "white" helps emphasise the dead corpse in First Death of Nova Scotia. Colour, although a simple technique, is used effectively in every instance and I found it intriguing how powerful this method is. She perfectly develops the tone through this. Similarly, light is also used. The Armadillo is the best exhibition where "the paper chambers flush and fill with light" to add to the sense of unease that is about to happen when finally the armadillo lights on fire with "ignited eyes." Her visual images are very engaging and I thought the uses of light are very defining images.

    In conclusion, I enjoyed Elizabeth Bishop's work. She is a very refreshing read who varies her subject matter. Her observant nature is intriguing and she raises questions of human behaviour through these observations. Her imagery is very enjoyable and she uses numerous techniques to entertain the reader.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,361 ✭✭✭bythewoods


    Just subscribed to the thread, so now I'm going to sit back and steal ALL of your ideas.
    Thanks guys.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭LivingDeadGirl


    Your concluding paragraph is completely repeating your opening....some examiners will mark you down for that. You also have little if no quotes in the whole thing which would definitely effect your grade.
    /critisism :P

    I was always told that my conclusion should mirror my introduction. Also, there's a quote in nearly every paragraph(although I've just spotted that I should've added some in when discussing Bright Star's octet and sestet in hindsight).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Futurism


    bythewoods wrote: »
    Just subscribed to the thread, so now I'm going to sit back and steal ALL of your ideas.
    Thanks guys.

    And I'm stealing your idea of doing that!

    Wow,aren't we all ****ed if they get a bit unpredictable and don't use Bishop?
    I was always told that my conclusion should mirror my introduction. Also, there's a quote in nearly every paragraph(although I've just spotted that I should've added some in when discussing Bright Star's octet and sestet in hindsight).

    It should, but try word it completely different if possible and add a bit to it. I also thought you were a bit short on quotes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Swizz


    Who wants to do a personal response to Longley?


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sure, think I'm doing him in mine. Lets see what you have?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Fringe


    I cant really think of a way to link them together any better, can you by any chance?

    Maybe how you mentioned Ode To Nightingale, you can mention a particular image and then relate it to how great his vivid imagery. I wouldn't make it too complicated though as you could really destroy your essay if you overdo things.


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I cant really think of a way to link them together any better, can you by any chance?

    For Keats there's a simple way to link his poetry: through his style and genre of Romanticism. He was one of the key poets of the English Romantic movement - so you just link his various poems with the constituents of that theme. For example, Romanticism emphasised the place of the imagination and emotions in art; it stressed that an appreciation of external nature was to be valued more than a rationalised view of the world (which was happening with the development of science and the Industrial Revolution etc.). Romantic art concerns itself with the remote and the distant (partly because these could be idealized), and in most Romantic art you'll find that both trepidation and awe play an important role. Keats' work fits this bill perfectly. Basically, just talk about how Keats had an idealized and quixotic view of both the world and his life. If you use this idea you'll find it very easy to link his poems; it's the way I'm doing it anyway.

    Oh, and I think it would be a good idea to mention other Romantic poets in your answer, such as Shelley and Byron; it'd be bound to impress the examiner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    [quote=blue-army;60464639The fish, like Bishop, has lived a hard life. We are told that there was “five old pieces of fish-line” hanging from “his lower lip.”

    [/quote]

    Does the quote not have to be exact, other wise it's not a quote, right?
    I think "a five haired beard of wisdom trailing from his aching jaw" is right :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭blue-army


    theowen wrote: »
    Does the quote not have to be exact, other wise it's not a quote, right?
    I think "a five haired beard of wisdom trailing from his aching jaw" is right :confused:
    Nope...I checked the quote there.. It's right. I think you might be thinking of another poem?

    Tbh, I don't think the quotes have to be exactly correct either... I looked over my answer in the pre, a few of the quotes I used weren't 100% exact, but they got a tick beside them. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭theowen


    my qoutes 4 or 5 lines down after that, woops! fairly similar all the same :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭damienricefan


    sickner for not having a good enough teacher to know where you're at in english, i know this is negative input but la la la sunny times :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭lorna100


    This is my Elizabeth Bishop essay, it was originally written as a letter but I think Ive changed it enough to pass as a personal response essay. Critizism welcome! Oh and I hope fringe doesnt mind, Ive robbed one of your paragraphs on colour - if you dont want me too just let me know.


    It is a hallmark of Elizabeth Bishop’s poetry that she writes of past pain without pathos and with precision. Her poems present accounts of events bordering on the surreal, and deal with the emotions that these memories engender. The poems I have found most emotive are First Death In Nova Scotia, In The Waiting Room, Sestina and Questions of Travel. In these poems I will be discussing her search for identity, childhood memories, the level of precision in her poetry and her comparison of the exterior world to a consideration of self.

    Elizabeth was born in Massachusetts in 1911, the only child of William and May Bishop. Her father died when she was eight months old, from this loss her mother never recovered, leading to her eventual mental breakdown. From age six, Elizabeth was shifted from grandparents to aunts, and never felt a sense of having a home. From this, it is easy to understand that out of this came the strong theme of search for identity in her poetry. This theme is most evident in ‘In The Waiting Room’, and ‘Questions Of Travel’. In ‘In The Waiting Room’, I love the moment when she discovers, with sharp perceptiveness, that there is only one Elizabeth bishop, separate, unique but that unique individual self is also one of womankind on the wider scale. The line ‘why should you be one, too?’ is very effective in portraying the intentions of the child- she wants to hand on, to stay on earth, and not to tumble into space of unknown territory. I can relate to bishop here, for we have all faced situations where we do not wish to leave the comforts of what we know.

    Likewise, in ‘Questions of Travel’, Bishop again addresses travel into new terrains, individuality and her search for identity, a continuity that appeals to me greatly. The poet offers us a profound reminder of the role that a place plays in forming our identity. The act of travelling beyond the confines of our surroundings not only challenges our understanding of who we are but also questions the very notion of home. The speaker in the poem poses the question of why human beings have a childish need to ‘rush’ to the other side of the world in order to see a ‘hummingbird’ or some ‘old stonework’. This question impacted on me as I feel that it is a lack of this childish wonder and awe in adults today that has led to mass materialism throughout the world, something that has affected both myself and the majority of my peers.

    In typical bishop fashion, both of these poems move from considering the exterior world to a deeper consideration of self. In ‘In the Waiting Room’, Bishop begins by examining her surroundings, including a national geographic magazine. She then moves to a deeper consideration of self, proclaiming ‘But I felt: you are an I, you are an Elizabeth’. I think this complex feature is highly emotive and engaging, highlighting her distinct sense of individuality, a feature which can also be seen in ‘Questions of travel’. The poem is structured in a series of rich observations that give rise to more questions than answers, moving increasingly inwards so that the examination of the external world becomes a quest for self identity. The lyric implies that without continual risk and insecurity, there can be no spiritual growth.

    Insecurity is something that, in her childhood, bishop was accustomed to. She describes painful childhood memories in her poetry, a theme which invited me to become both emotive and moved. In ‘First Death In Nova Scotia’, from a child’s perspective bishop expresses her first encounter with death, and in attempting to understand the reality makes confused, extraordinary and sometimes almost fairytale connections. Bishop links death with adults in this poem, an aspect of the poem that I find atypical. She devotes a stanza to talking about a stuffed ‘loon’ which her uncle has shot, and her mother lifts her to look into the coffin. This is one of the only mentions we have of her mother, and I think it is striking that she is very much entwined with the death of ‘little Arthur’ As a child, bishop was certainly unusual to have such an intuitive mind and a gentle, sensitive soul.

    We can also see the sensitive child bishop in ‘In the Waiting Room’. To a lesser extent, we see bishop as a child trying to deal with fundamental questions such as ‘why should I be my aunt, or me, or anyone?’ the child Bishop, in response to this, faints. When she recovers consciousness, she realises she has not be submerged by ‘the black wave’. Earlier in the poem I understood bishop to be saying that as a child she has no option but to grow up to become the kind of woman she did not want to be. She is in the waiting room, metaphorically waiting too to take her place as a conscious member of the human race. I call this a painful memory because I feel that when recalling such an experience, it would be inhuman to not experience pain.

    In sestina, it is evident that the memories are clearly very painful. The entire poem is steeped in an atmosphere of loss and sadness. Bishop defines this grief thought a series of precise and evocative adjectives: ‘failing’, ‘small’, ‘hard’, ‘ridged’, ‘inscrutable’. There is a poignant inevitability to the sadness that pervades the poem. Throughout the poem, the speaker chooses not to connect directly with the emotions and these memories engender. The final line of the envoi perfectly captures the sad truth that for bishop, the idea of a home is an ‘inscrutable’ or enigmatic one. The pain of recalling this childhood memory is clear in this poem.

    In reading the poetry of Elizabeth bishop, it is impossible not to notice the level of precision in her work, an attractive feature that nearly demands your attention. Critic Randall Jarrell has written about bishop that “all her poems have written underneath, 'I have seen it'”. When he wrote this, Jarrell was referring to Bishop's talent for vivid description.Imagery and descriptive detail are conveyed in her poetry through a series of beautifully evoked word pictures. This is most noted in ‘first death in nova Scotia’, when the deceased Arthur is described as ‘like a doll that hadn’t been painted yet’. In ‘questions of travel’ we are given a breathtaking description of the landscape. In a series of lines that are filled with energy and movement, we learn that ‘there are many waterfalls here’. In her poetry, bishop gives us detailed descriptions of the exotic and the familiar. Sestina is a perfect example of bishop’s mastery of precise diction and detail.

    Bishops poetry is highly stylised, an aspect that appeals to me greatly. Her poetry is rich is metaphors, similes, imagery and motifs. Sestina, possibly bishop’s most stylised poem, is written in the form of a sestina. It is a fixed form which relies for its structure on a strict pattern of repeated end words. I really like this form because I feel that due to its end words being repeated for thirty six lines, the sestina is well suited for subjects that require intense observation or meditation. I personally find this feature of her style captivating and interesting.

    Bishop also makes use of metaphors and similes in her work. In ‘sestina’, metaphors such as ‘tears dancing like mad’ highlight the deep tragedy of her childhood. The questions of travel, bishops use of the act of travel as a metaphor symbolises her search for identity. In ‘first death in nova Scotia’ bishop uses the metaphor of the coffin as a ‘little frosted cake’ to describe her view of the coffin. She also uses the simile ‘like a doll’ to describe Arthurs pallor. There is no sense of fear or indeed any emotion beyond curiosity in this description. In ‘sestina’ , a powerful motif of tears is highlighted throughout the poem – ‘hide her tears’, ‘equinoctial tears’, ‘small hard tears’, ‘buttons like tears’ and ‘fall down like tears’. This adds to the prevailing atmosphere of sadness and loss. Bishops use of enjambment in order to move the poem gently forward is another style feature that I think works well in her poetry.

    Bishop also employs the use of colour heavily. The colour helps add to the tone by evoking emotions. "The brown enormous odour" at the start of The Prodigal instantly sets a sick disgusting tone while the colour "white" helps emphasise the dead corpse in First Death of Nova Scotia. Colour, although a simple technique, is used effectively in every instance and I found it intriguing how powerful this method is.

    Bishop has said ‘All my life I have lived and behaved very much like the sandpiper - just running down the edges of different countries and continents, 'looking for something'. For me, this sums up bishop, her poetry and her ideas perfectly. it highlights her theme of the search for identity, moves from an exploration of the exterior to a consideration of self, and like the jagged edge of countries, her childhood too was rough, to be soothed only by words. In this, I feel that bishop recognises and understands the power of words, and through her deeply emotive poetry, they have had a deep and profound impact on me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭damienricefan


    lorna100 wrote: »
    This is my Elizabeth Bishop essay, it was originally written as a letter but I think Ive changed it enough to pass as a personal response essay. Critizism welcome! Oh and I hope fringe doesnt mind, Ive robbed one of your paragraphs on colour - if you dont want me too just let me know.


    It is a hallmark of Elizabeth Bishop’s poetry that she writes of past pain without pathos and with precision. Her poems present accounts of events bordering on the surreal, and deal with the emotions that these memories engender. The poems I have found most emotive are First Death In Nova Scotia, In The Waiting Room, Sestina and Questions of Travel. In these poems I will be discussing her search for identity, childhood memories, the level of precision in her poetry and her comparison of the exterior world to a consideration of self.

    Elizabeth was born in Massachusetts in 1911, the only child of William and May Bishop. Her father died when she was eight months old, from this loss her mother never recovered, leading to her eventual mental breakdown. From age six, Elizabeth was shifted from grandparents to aunts, and never felt a sense of having a home. From this, it is easy to understand that out of this came the strong theme of search for identity in her poetry. This theme is most evident in ‘In The Waiting Room’, and ‘Questions Of Travel’. In ‘In The Waiting Room’, I love the moment when she discovers, with sharp perceptiveness, that there is only one Elizabeth bishop, separate, unique but that unique individual self is also one of womankind on the wider scale. The line ‘why should you be one, too?’ is very effective in portraying the intentions of the child- she wants to hand on, to stay on earth, and not to tumble into space of unknown territory. I can relate to bishop here, for we have all faced situations where we do not wish to leave the comforts of what we know.

    Likewise, in ‘Questions of Travel’, Bishop again addresses travel into new terrains, individuality and her search for identity, a continuity that appeals to me greatly. The poet offers us a profound reminder of the role that a place plays in forming our identity. The act of travelling beyond the confines of our surroundings not only challenges our understanding of who we are but also questions the very notion of home. The speaker in the poem poses the question of why human beings have a childish need to ‘rush’ to the other side of the world in order to see a ‘hummingbird’ or some ‘old stonework’. This question impacted on me as I feel that it is a lack of this childish wonder and awe in adults today that has led to mass materialism throughout the world, something that has affected both myself and the majority of my peers.

    In typical bishop fashion, both of these poems move from considering the exterior world to a deeper consideration of self. In ‘In the Waiting Room’, Bishop begins by examining her surroundings, including a national geographic magazine. She then moves to a deeper consideration of self, proclaiming ‘But I felt: you are an I, you are an Elizabeth’. I think this complex feature is highly emotive and engaging, highlighting her distinct sense of individuality, a feature which can also be seen in ‘Questions of travel’. The poem is structured in a series of rich observations that give rise to more questions than answers, moving increasingly inwards so that the examination of the external world becomes a quest for self identity. The lyric implies that without continual risk and insecurity, there can be no spiritual growth.

    Insecurity is something that, in her childhood, bishop was accustomed to. She describes painful childhood memories in her poetry, a theme which invited me to become both emotive and moved. In ‘First Death In Nova Scotia’, from a child’s perspective bishop expresses her first encounter with death, and in attempting to understand the reality makes confused, extraordinary and sometimes almost fairytale connections. Bishop links death with adults in this poem, an aspect of the poem that I find atypical. She devotes a stanza to talking about a stuffed ‘loon’ which her uncle has shot, and her mother lifts her to look into the coffin. This is one of the only mentions we have of her mother, and I think it is striking that she is very much entwined with the death of ‘little Arthur’ As a child, bishop was certainly unusual to have such an intuitive mind and a gentle, sensitive soul.

    We can also see the sensitive child bishop in ‘In the Waiting Room’. To a lesser extent, we see bishop as a child trying to deal with fundamental questions such as ‘why should I be my aunt, or me, or anyone?’ the child Bishop, in response to this, faints. When she recovers consciousness, she realises she has not be submerged by ‘the black wave’. Earlier in the poem I understood bishop to be saying that as a child she has no option but to grow up to become the kind of woman she did not want to be. She is in the waiting room, metaphorically waiting too to take her place as a conscious member of the human race. I call this a painful memory because I feel that when recalling such an experience, it would be inhuman to not experience pain.

    In sestina, it is evident that the memories are clearly very painful. The entire poem is steeped in an atmosphere of loss and sadness. Bishop defines this grief thought a series of precise and evocative adjectives: ‘failing’, ‘small’, ‘hard’, ‘ridged’, ‘inscrutable’. There is a poignant inevitability to the sadness that pervades the poem. Throughout the poem, the speaker chooses not to connect directly with the emotions and these memories engender. The final line of the envoi perfectly captures the sad truth that for bishop, the idea of a home is an ‘inscrutable’ or enigmatic one. The pain of recalling this childhood memory is clear in this poem.

    In reading the poetry of Elizabeth bishop, it is impossible not to notice the level of precision in her work, an attractive feature that nearly demands your attention. Critic Randall Jarrell has written about bishop that “all her poems have written underneath, 'I have seen it'”. When he wrote this, Jarrell was referring to Bishop's talent for vivid description.Imagery and descriptive detail are conveyed in her poetry through a series of beautifully evoked word pictures. This is most noted in ‘first death in nova Scotia’, when the deceased Arthur is described as ‘like a doll that hadn’t been painted yet’. In ‘questions of travel’ we are given a breathtaking description of the landscape. In a series of lines that are filled with energy and movement, we learn that ‘there are many waterfalls here’. In her poetry, bishop gives us detailed descriptions of the exotic and the familiar. Sestina is a perfect example of bishop’s mastery of precise diction and detail.

    Bishops poetry is highly stylised, an aspect that appeals to me greatly. Her poetry is rich is metaphors, similes, imagery and motifs. Sestina, possibly bishop’s most stylised poem, is written in the form of a sestina. It is a fixed form which relies for its structure on a strict pattern of repeated end words. I really like this form because I feel that due to its end words being repeated for thirty six lines, the sestina is well suited for subjects that require intense observation or meditation. I personally find this feature of her style captivating and interesting.

    Bishop also makes use of metaphors and similes in her work. In ‘sestina’, metaphors such as ‘tears dancing like mad’ highlight the deep tragedy of her childhood. The questions of travel, bishops use of the act of travel as a metaphor symbolises her search for identity. In ‘first death in nova Scotia’ bishop uses the metaphor of the coffin as a ‘little frosted cake’ to describe her view of the coffin. She also uses the simile ‘like a doll’ to describe Arthurs pallor. There is no sense of fear or indeed any emotion beyond curiosity in this description. In ‘sestina’ , a powerful motif of tears is highlighted throughout the poem – ‘hide her tears’, ‘equinoctial tears’, ‘small hard tears’, ‘buttons like tears’ and ‘fall down like tears’. This adds to the prevailing atmosphere of sadness and loss. Bishops use of enjambment in order to move the poem gently forward is another style feature that I think works well in her poetry.

    Bishop also employs the use of colour heavily. The colour helps add to the tone by evoking emotions. "The brown enormous odour" at the start of The Prodigal instantly sets a sick disgusting tone while the colour "white" helps emphasise the dead corpse in First Death of Nova Scotia. Colour, although a simple technique, is used effectively in every instance and I found it intriguing how powerful this method is.

    Bishop has said ‘All my life I have lived and behaved very much like the sandpiper - just running down the edges of different countries and continents, 'looking for something'. For me, this sums up bishop, her poetry and her ideas perfectly. it highlights her theme of the search for identity, moves from an exploration of the exterior to a consideration of self, and like the jagged edge of countries, her childhood too was rough, to be soothed only by words. In this, I feel that bishop recognises and understands the power of words, and through her deeply emotive poetry, they have had a deep and profound impact on me.

    very strong use of language and expression, just seems a bit academic rather than an answer, i'd shorten it and put more quotes in it and keep it a bit more discplined, but still I thought it was a good answer :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 165 ✭✭damienricefan


    very strong use of language and expression, just seems a bit academic rather than an answer, i'd shorten it and put more quotes in it and keep it a bit more discplined, but still I thought it was a good answer :)

    actually i take the quotes criticism back , works fine lol


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Brilliant essay Lorna.


  • Registered Users Posts: 820 ✭✭✭jetski


    Ya not bad..... What level paper was it?


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 284 ✭✭We


    lorna100 wrote: »
    This is my Elizabeth Bishop essay, it was originally written as a letter but I think Ive changed it enough to pass as a personal response essay. Critizism welcome! Oh and I hope fringe doesnt mind, Ive robbed one of your paragraphs on colour - if you dont want me too just let me know.


    Haven't read your essay, but if you can write 1567 in 42.5minutes... fair balls.. otherwise I'd seriously think about shortening it...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭lorna100


    jetski wrote: »
    Ya not bad..... What level paper was it?

    Higher level.

    Thanks for the comments, ive shortened it and left out three paragraphs. Hopefully I'll get it written in time..
    Any suggestions to improve, dont be shy :p


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    lorna100 wrote: »
    Higher level.

    Thanks for the comments, ive shortened it and left out three paragraphs. Hopefully I'll get it written in time..
    Any suggestions to improve, dont be shy :p

    Its definitely a good thing that you've shortened it, as I know it can be a pain to do sometimes. You feel all chuffed with yourself after spending ages piecing this amazing essay together, only for someone to discard it as 'too long'.. Sorry that it was me :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭lorna100


    We wrote: »
    Its definitely a good thing that you've shortened it, as I know it can be a pain to do sometimes. You feel all chuffed with yourself after spending ages piecing this amazing essay together, only for someone to discard it as 'too long'.. Sorry that it was me :D

    I asked for peoples opinions lol, and you are right, it was way to long!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    lorna100 wrote: »
    This is my Elizabeth Bishop essay, it was originally written as a letter but I think Ive changed it enough to pass as a personal response essay. Critizism welcome! Oh and I hope fringe doesnt mind, Ive robbed one of your paragraphs on colour - if you dont want me too just let me know.


    It is a hallmark of Elizabeth Bishop’s poetry that she writes of past pain without pathos and with precision. Her poems present accounts of events bordering on the surreal, and deal with the emotions that these memories engender. The poems I have found most emotive are First Death In Nova Scotia, In The Waiting Room, Sestina and Questions of Travel. In these poems I will be discussing her search for identity, childhood memories, the level of precision in her poetry and her comparison of the exterior world to a consideration of self.

    Scrap that part up there where you name out the poems, otherwise it was good!

    Normally i agree with anming out the poems, but not when you only have 4! Your supposed to have studyed 6 and discuss across 5/6 poems. So your kinda highlighting that you only have 4?!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭lorna100


    timmywex wrote: »
    Scrap that part up there where you name out the poems, otherwise it was good!

    Normally i agree with anming out the poems, but not when you only have 4! Your supposed to have studyed 6 and discuss across 5/6 poems. So your kinda highlighting that you only have 4?!

    I have been told that 3 in detail is sufficient, and 2 more in passing reference, which I have, what are others opinions? (the guy who told me has been chief examiner in english)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,626 ✭✭✭timmywex


    lorna100 wrote: »
    I have been told that 3 in detail is sufficient, and 2 more in passing reference, which I have, what are others opinions? (the guy who told me has been chief examiner in english)

    If he was the chief, it might be alright then! Ive always been told 5/6, but since i know 5 or 6 may aswell stick em in at the same time!


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