My Football Rankings

patmac

Here are my soccer rankings updated from last year. I have decided to give the same points to the Champions League as the old European Cup due to a recent thread here. The only changes from last year are that United have cut Liverpool's lead to 28 points and Chelsea have overtaken Spurs.
Here is the table.

jesus_thats_gre

Should sticky this...

Liam O

more for the semis of the CL than winning the FA cup?

PHB

I'd agree with that to be honest. Infact, I'd personally take the semis of the CL over winning the FA Cup.

Then again, not sure I'd rate the European Cup on par with the CL.

SlickRic

PHB wrote: »

Then again, not sure I'd rate the European Cup on par with the CL.

for me, the fact you had to win you're league to even compete in the European Cup means they should be on a par.

PHB

I just don't agree. It just means the qualification is tougher. Once you're in the comp, the actual tournament is much tougher.

If you follow that logic in terms of mathamatical rankings, you're double rewarding a league win.

SlickRic

PHB wrote: »

I just don't agree. It just means the qualification is tougher. Once you're in the comp, the actual tournament is much tougher.

but nobody even got the chance to qualify back then.

it was tough to win, because to get in you had to win the league, not merely qualify against largely second rate teams.

yes, the tournament itself is harder to win, but to even be there in the first place was damn hard; harder than now. obviously.

DM_7

SlickRic wrote: »

but nobody even got the chance to qualify back then.

it was tough to win, because to get in you had to win the league, not merely qualify against largely second rate teams.

yes, the tournament itself is harder to win, but to even be there in the first place was damn hard; harder than now. obviously.

And it was a knockout tournament of two leg games from the start rather than a seeded league system at the start.

eagle eye

PHB wrote: »

I'd agree with that to be honest. Infact, I'd personally take the semis of the CL over winning the FA Cup.

Then again, not sure I'd rate the European Cup on par with the CL.

So come the first day of June you would prefer to have a bare cupboard and have been in a semi-final of the CL?

Bubs101

eagle eye wrote: »

So come the first day of June you would prefer to have a bare cupboard and have been in a semi-final of the CL?

As a Chelsea fan, that semi final meant far more to me than a consolation prize

eagle eye

Bubs101 wrote: »

As a Chelsea fan, that semi final meant far more to me than a consolation prize

Clearly at the time its hugely important.......... but when all is said and done at the end of the season, surely its nicer to have a cup than nothing at all?

SlickRic

Bubs101 wrote: »

As a Chelsea fan, that semi final meant far more to me than a consolation prize

in terms of what the game meant to you, fair enough.

but if you're given the choice of losing in a CL semi-final or winning the FA Cup...surely the Cup wins every time?

am i missing something here?

CHD

SlickRic wrote: »

in terms of what the game meant to you, fair enough.

but if you're given the choice of losing in a CL semi-final or winning the FA Cup...surely the Cup wins every time?

am i missing something here?

Yes it does, but i'd swap that cup in a instant for another shot at that 2nd leg.

SlickRic

CHD wrote: »

Yes it does, but i'd swap that cup in a instant for another shot at that 2nd leg.

cool, that's different.

this scenario i'd agree with no problem at all.

That_Guy

Newcastle 10th????

Is that table based on who the biggest jokes are? You've clearly added a 0 on there by mistake.

Bubs101

SlickRic wrote: »

in terms of what the game meant to you, fair enough.

but if you're given the choice of losing in a CL semi-final or winning the FA Cup...surely the Cup wins every time?

am i missing something here?

If I knew we were going to lose it would be a difficult choice, but if you offered any top 4 fan at the beginning of the season a semi final in the CL or the FA cup with the result of the former up in the air most if not all would choose the CL

SlickRic

Bubs101 wrote: »

If I knew we were going to lose it would be a difficult choice, but if you offered any top 4 fan at the beginning of the season a semi final in the CL or the FA cup with the result of the former up in the air most if not all would choose the CL

CHD wrote: »

Yes it does, but i'd swap that cup in a instant for another shot at that 2nd leg.

SlickRic wrote: »

cool, that's different.

this scenario i'd agree with no problem at all.

as i said Bubs, if that's the case, i couldn't agree more.

noodler

Theres nothing tough about the CL group stages IMO.

GuanYin

Do you think playoffs and automatic promotions should be added? Reading way down at the bottom seems weird.

A Dub in Glasgo

What are Rangers doing there?

patmac

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

What are Rangers doing there?

They took part in the FA Cup in the early eighties (1880's)

patmac

Liam O wrote: »

more for the semis of the CL than winning the FA cup?

It's a tough one the FA Cup and the League Cup have been devalued somewhat since the Champions League came along and up to the late sixties it would possibly have had more esteem than the European Cup! But when do you start saying the same competition is worth more at different times. It all becomes very subjective then.

PHB wrote: »

Then again, not sure I'd rate the European Cup on par with the CL.

Have to go with the general consensus on that one:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055567304

VinylJunkie

Accrington Stanley who are they?