Bulgaria v Ireland saturday 6th ko 6:30 setanta Ireland/RTÉ 2

Podge2k7

Im happy with the draw, but we shouldn't have conceded the way we did.

ShooterSF

What seems to be a commonly used phrase when watching Ireland under Trap,

"Good result but rather boring"

Nalz

Dunphy is talking the truth 100%

shock horror I know

Praising Dunne, O Shea and Duff
but pointing out how we were killed in midfield with the two lads dropping two deep and not showing for the ball

Good result

Xavi6

G'wan Eamo! Here's the Trap criticism

He's spot on as well

Headshot

ShooterSF wrote: »

"Good result but rather boring"

dont care once we qualify for south africa

Nalz

Raskolnikov wrote: »

Richard Dunne will wish he could play against Berbatov every week - complete garbage.

Dunne was excellent, Berbatov was poor, but Berbatov was dropping deep alot, actually all the match. Dunne had Boijnov and his replacements in his pockets, he didnt have to worry about Berbatov

Kristopherus

Good point. Puts huge pressure on Bulgaria to chase us. Cyprus are also gone so that match may not be as vital to them. We should get at least 5 pts from our last 3 games & that should be enough.

Xavi6

Gilsey have no interest in the predictions.

Eamo's confident of 3 points in Cyprus. Good luck with that.

Mr. Incognito

Trappatoni deserves to be Lauded.

Has everyone forgotten the pulmelling Cyprus gave us- I would have bitten your hand off two years ago for this position.

Well done to the squad. The boring grumblers can kiss it.

eclectichoney

+1 The buzz from being able to support Ireland in the WC would make up for a few boring performances / ground out results tbh.

Daysha

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Trappatoni deserves to be Lauded.

Has everyone forgotten the pulmelling Cyprus gave us- I would have bitten your hand off two years ago for this position.

Well done to the squad. The boring grumblers can kiss it.

Yup, totally agree. Unless Bulgaria beat Italy away (which isn't going to happen), 2 wins against Cyprus and Montenegro earns us a playoff at least.

Great stuff altogether.

Mr.Nice Guy

The Cyprus pummelling under Staunton could prove to be a great incentive. They inflicted one of the worst ever defeats we've had, and what better way to put that behind us then to go there and gain revenge with 3 points that will give us a great chance of qualification.

I believe we can go there and win assuming we'll have our key players fit.

Bulgaria's next two games are really tough with a lot of pressure on them. I think we've got a great chance.

It's great to once again be in with a shout of qualification unlike the last campaign where we were out of it before the final stretch.

godtabh

Thought we should have one. Could have nicked it with mcGeady at the end.

I would will Keane keep up a fuss now?

Daysha

Also, if Italy fail to beat Bulgaria, 3 wins from 3 will send us to South Africa as group winners. It's a long shot, but it's still a huge improvement on two years ago.

Bobalicious93

Btw, we are currently 2nd bottom of the "Runners-up-super-ultra-permutation-filled-European-qualification League"

Team Pld W D L GF GA GD AG Pts
France 5 3 1 1 7 6 +1 4 10
Bosnia and Herzegovina 5 3 0 2 14 6 +8 5 9
Russia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 1 9
Slovakia 4 3 0 1 7 5 +2 3 9
Hungary 4 2 1 1 4 2 +2 2 7
Switzerland 4 2 1 1 7 6 +1 4 7
Scotland 5 2 1 2 4 6 −2 2 7
Ireland 5 1 4 0 4 3 +1 3 7
Croatia 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 0 4

Croatia v Ukraine currently 2-2, which would move Croatia on to 5 pts

Not a chance we would get out of the group above even if we end up as best runners up.

Bobalicious93

Sloane Black Buttermilk wrote: »

If we end up as best runners up who are we likely to face?

It's an open draw

Daysha

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

Btw, we are currently 2nd bottom of the "Runners-up-super-ultra-permutation-filled-European-qualification League"

Team Pld W D L GF GA GD AG Pts
France 5 3 1 1 7 6 +1 4 10
Bosnia and Herzegovina 5 3 0 2 14 6 +8 5 9
Russia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 1 9
Slovakia 4 3 0 1 7 5 +2 3 9
Hungary 4 2 1 1 4 2 +2 2 7
Switzerland 4 2 1 1 7 6 +1 4 7
Scotland 5 2 1 2 4 6 −2 2 7
Ireland 5 1 4 0 4 3 +1 3 7
Croatia 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 0 4

Croatia v Ukraine currently 2-2, which would move Croatia on to 5 pts

I know that doesn't look good, but 1) we're ahead of Scotland on GD, and 2) we've already played both our matches against the last placed team. We'll move up that ladder once we get Cyprus and Montenegro out of the way, which we'll have to get through to get the runners up anyway.

Sloane Black Buttermilk wrote: »

If we end up as best runners up who are we likely to face?

It's a random draw, no seeds.

Seaneh

if it stays as is and we get bosnia we are laughing!

Latchy

Ireland are a hell of a lot better than the welsh and scottish set ups and we have a good manager which either country would gladly take

Daysha

Seaneh wrote: »

if it stays as is and we get bosnia we are laughing!

I'd much prefer Switzerland. A very average side we should beat and it would absolutely make up for 04 and 06.

CiaranC

If we qualify for the World Cup im so gonna jump on that bandwagon

ole ole ole

johnnyboy4711

"You'll never beat the Irish"
Yes but we will never beat anyone either!
draw experts!
after bulgaria scored we were clueless no plan B what so ever.
Like watching paint dry!
slan
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Tyranax

Dunphy in swearing shocker!

Bobalicious93

:D was anyone listening to the lads on the Rte webcast there? They didn't know they were being recorded

Latchy

But any team that gets to the world cup finals has to be good ,you .......we cant rely on luck all the time

Nalz

Scotland have tough fixtures away to Norway, home to Holland and IhadaMacedonia

Hungarys are worse with two games against Portugal and home to Sweden.

Swiss will probably do well with their games against Luxemborg home and away and home to Greece, have to go to Latvia

Croatia still to play England again

I think we wont have to worry if we come second

Latchy

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

:D was anyone listening to the lads on the Rte webcast there? They didn't know they were being recorded

Pics or it never happened .?



Ok what did they say so

Nalz

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

:D was anyone listening to the lads on the Rte webcast there? They didn't know they were being recorded

what was said?!!

paulocon

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

Btw, we are currently 2nd bottom of the "Runners-up-super-ultra-permutation-filled-European-qualification League"

Team Pld W D L GF GA GD AG Pts
France 5 3 1 1 7 6 +1 4 10
Bosnia and Herzegovina 5 3 0 2 14 6 +8 5 9
Russia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 1 9
Slovakia 4 3 0 1 7 5 +2 3 9
Hungary 4 2 1 1 4 2 +2 2 7
Switzerland 4 2 1 1 7 6 +1 4 7
Scotland 5 2 1 2 4 6 −2 2 7
Ireland 5 1 4 0 4 3 +1 3 7
Croatia 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 0 4

Croatia v Ukraine currently 2-2, which would move Croatia on to 5 pts

How does that work and where did you get the latest group from?

Bobalicious93

Latchy wrote: »

Pics or it never happened .?



Ok what did they say so

Dunphy and Giles were just basically talking about how Carsley should be in the squad.
Giles then brings up about how people used to question Charlton's decisions and he got us to a WC quarter-final.

Dunphy then says "With Ronnie sitting on the f**king bench!"

Tyranax

Trilla wrote: »

what was said?!!

Eamo said about somebody "But he's sitting on the f&$$ing bench", in a laughing manner, with an incredulous tone.

Edit: Ninja, above, damn.

Aidric

I've only got audio and a frozen visual from that webcast.

Bobalicious93

paulocon wrote: »

How does that work and where did you get the latest group from?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA) It's all explained here, although for some reason Bulgaria are on there instead of us

Latchy

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

Dunphy and Giles were just basically talking about how Carsley should be in the squad.
Giles then brings up about how people used to question Charlton's decisions and he got us to a WC quarter-final.

Dunphy then says "With Ronnie sitting on the f**king bench!"

Classic

Daysha

paulocon wrote: »

How does that work and where did you get the latest group from?

Basically the worst 2nd place team in the groups are eliminated, and the other 8 are randomly drawn into 4 2-legged matches. The 4 winners qualify.

Dave!

Good result tbh

Good performances by Given, JOSH, Dunne, Hunt, Duff, and Folan

Pretty pleased with that tbh

paulocon

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(UEFA) It's all explained here, although for some reason Bulgaria are on there instead of us

cheers mate!

Johnny Utah

Great result, Trappatoni is working miracles with this motley crew. Our Lord was able to turn 5 loaves of bread into le petit dejeuner for 5000 people, but King Trap (so far) is able to secure 13 priceless World Cup points from Division 1 journeymen.

You do the math!

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Are Chris McCann and Keith Fahey any good? Would sell my soul if Trap dropped Glenn Whelan. Play-Doh legs Steven Reid will be back in September thankfully.

JP Liz

The draw was a good result

Johnny Utah

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

Are Chris McCann and Keith Fahey any good? Would sell my soul if Trap dropped Glenn Whelan. Play-Doh legs Steven Reid will be back in September thankfully.

Yes, he's back for a week in September I believe, before he's due to get injured again. Just like clockwork.

Johnny Utah

Bobalicious93 wrote: »

Btw, we are currently 2nd bottom of the "Runners-up-super-ultra-permutation-filled-European-qualification League"

Team Pld W D L GF GA GD AG Pts
France 5 3 1 1 7 6 +1 4 10
Bosnia and Herzegovina 5 3 0 2 14 6 +8 5 9
Russia 4 3 0 1 8 3 +5 1 9
Slovakia 4 3 0 1 7 5 +2 3 9
Hungary 4 2 1 1 4 2 +2 2 7
Switzerland 4 2 1 1 7 6 +1 4 7
Scotland 5 2 1 2 4 6 −2 2 7
Ireland 5 1 4 0 4 3 +1 3 7
Croatia 3 1 1 1 4 4 0 0 4

Croatia v Ukraine currently 2-2, which would move Croatia on to 5 pts

Out of those teams, I'd fear France, Russia and Croatia. We should be able to beat the others.

eclectichoney

Johnny Utah wrote: »

Yes, he's back for a week in September I believe, before he's due to get injured again. Just like clockwork.

lol. Please god he can stay fit. Gibson is also a decent option.

IRISHSPORTSGUY

St Ledger looked very good. Far better option than McShane.

Entirely Kilbane's fault for the goal. He went to attack the ball, didn't commit to his decision and then changed his mind and was caught on the wrong side of his man.

Highsider

Trap deserves a wage increase for the job he's doing with this squad. Would love to play Scotland in a play off.:)

IRISHSPORTSGUY

Highsider wrote: »

Trap deserves a wage increase for the job he's doing with this squad. Would love to play Scotland in a play off.:)

I daresay Glasgow Rangers bigots would be out in force if that happened.

aidan24326

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

St Ledger looked very good. Far better option than McShane

Agreed. St.Ledger did fine and looks a far better option than McShane.

Folan did well too, he was a handful for them at times. Has established himself now as a very useful option in attack.

Johnny Utah

IRISHSPORTSGUY wrote: »

St Ledger looked very good. Far better option than McShane.

Entirely Kilbane's fault for the goal. He went to attack the ball, didn't commit to his decision and then changed his mind and was caught on the wrong side of his man.

Yeah, St Ledger and Dunne look very good together.



Delaney or O'Dea for left-back perhaps?

I think we have a fairly solid defence once we get the left-back position sorted. I'd go with Delaney, and keep O'Shea at right-full.

Latchy

Be great to see both teams , ROI and NI in the finals .

Can you imagine the headlines in some place like germany

'' Zere ist two Irelandz teams '' ?