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    #182
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    orestes wrote: »
    Anyone with a bebo should be banned from boards regardless

    How witty of you. :rolleyes:


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    #183
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    tallaght01 wrote: »
    Mayordennis, it's really none of my business. BUT, what the guy on the other forum did was abusive. I'm the last person to be a boards party-line yes man. I disagree strongly with the ban.

    But, it does look bad. It's the kind of thing you post to take a poke at another poster, without really taking responsibility for it. I'm on your side with regard to most things about this. But I think hullabaloo has it spot on by taking the "it was abusive, but not worthy of a ban" line (apologies if I've misinterpreted your stance!).

    Juts my opinion, but it's not some kind of mod-opinion. I think it was just a nasty enough thing to post, regardless of whether some els e said it, or whether you think it's true.

    That's fair completely fair, my main point here though is that unless you set a rule here you can't expect him to say he did wrong, it's simply moving the goal posts.


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    #184
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    GuanYin wrote: »
    Sorry to post again, but it was requested I clarify something.

    Just to refute the claim that this was banter or that Helix was just relaying information and not intending to abuse.

    Just to point out, I have no problem with these posts.. I don't post there, I don't read there, it is posted about me behind my back and thats ok.

    I do have a problem with someone pre-meditating abuse because of my modding and then directing it at me so I'll see it. That is a different game.

    But all in all, I complained to the admins and let them decide.

    KevIRL: OH FFS. Check this post on boards from Guan Yin.

    Event: kev, seriously, boot her from that league
    she's a ****ing gimp, end of story

    Helix:yeh kev, just ****ing kick her
    shes been acting the bollox for too long

    in fact, if you dont wanna do it give me the ban hammer for 10 minutes and ill do it

    KevIRL:Kicking her out is just letting her win imo.
    Use the press releases

    Helix:f*ck it, this is no time to be moral and try to gain ground on her
    just kick her
    she'll ban anyone from boards who writes negative press releases about her. theyve done it before for off site stuff

    Helix:im debating issuing an official press release calling her a c*nt
    see what happens

    Helix:f*ck her, its a private league
    ill have a look and see if theres anything expressly said in their terms about personal abuse in private leagues

    Helix: bollox

    Helix:yeh you can critisize her, just cant abuse her directly

    Event:but type the word as c*nt
    actually replace the u with * yourself, then you "technically" didnt call her a cúnt, but a c*nt

    Helix:how do yis think thatd go down as an official press release?

    Helix: Posted it

    KevIRL:Leave any reference to EP out of it I reckon. There's no reason that anyone need know about an EP link to this


    After the ban.... re: complaining about me...
    lol

    i dont think thatll work

    but thats not to say i dont have something equally as petty in the works

    aaaaaaaall posted on a different forum


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    #185
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    dfx- wrote: »
    And did this PR get the 200 000 econ? :)

    no, it was an official press release :(


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    #186
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Helix wrote: »
    aaaaaaaall posted on a different forum

    Proof is in the links. :)


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    #187
    Thanx 4 The Fish
    Registered Users Posts: 15,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Thanx 4 The Fish


    Jazzy wrote: »
    and in guanyins case, she decided to put the line where it best suited her.

    Jesus, she did not take this action.

    Could I please ask that anybody who feels the need to post in this thread read back through all of the rest of the thread before posting. An informed post with an opinion is going to be taken a lot more seriously than a bunch of lads banging on a drum shouting their opinions but apparently about a completely separate issue.


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    #188
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    Helix wrote: »
    aaaaaaaall posted on a different forum

    aaaaaaaaaall cowardly abusive bullying that deserved the people involved to be held accountable


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    #189
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    mayordenis wrote: »
    That's fair completely fair, my main point here though is that unless you set a rule here you can't expect him to say he did wrong, it's simply moving the goal posts.

    Totally agree. Getting someone to apologise because they have to is meaningless anyway.


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    #190
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    orestes wrote: »
    aaaaaaaaaall cowardly abuse

    Seriously I've not seen one constructive post from you in all the pages I've read of this thread.

    If you've got nothing to say then get off your high horse and don't post. Simple as.


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    #191
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    orestes wrote: »
    aaaaaaaaaall cowardly abuse

    none of which fall under the remit of boards

    the forum.electricpicnic.ie does not have boards.ie in the title, address, or description, as is being argued as the main point for the banning here


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    #192
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    Jesus, she did not take this action.

    Could I please ask that anybody who feels the need to post in this thread read back through all of the rest of the thread before posting. An informed post with an opinion is going to be taken a lot more seriously than a bunch of lads banging on a drum shouting their opinions but apparently about a completely separate issue.


    Well I didn't want to say anything but reporting it back here was in my opinion something that shouldn't of been done - knowing (from what I can surmise) that this other forum is ok with banter or a certain level of abuse - it was reported to admins here who would throw around the ban stick.

    But to the main point GuanYin sadly it's still not addressing the issue people have with this for all I care he can of called you or any other member of boards the worst names under the sun - but it's outside this site and that should be that.


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    #193
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    What about stuff said in the poker forum?


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    #194
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Dudess wrote: »
    What about stuff said in the poker forum?

    i dont post in poker


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    #195
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    orestes wrote: »
    aaaaaaaaaall cowardly abusive bullying that deserved the people involved to be held accountable

    report it to the admins of the other site and have them deal with it - it's not boards.ie's remit to deal with anything from another forum.


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    #196
    orestes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,972 ✭✭✭orestes


    That_Guy wrote: »
    Seriously I've not seen one constructive post from you in all the pages I've read of this thread.

    If you've got nothing to say then get off your high horse and don't post. Simple as.

    Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's not there
    Helix wrote: »
    none of which fall under the remit of boards

    So you admit that it was cowardly abuse and using that site to abuse a boards mod without getting sanctioned for it?


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    #197
    mayordenis
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 9,634 Mod ✭✭✭✭mayordenis


    Dudess wrote: »
    What about stuff said in the poker forum?

    I don't think that should have any bearing on another forum either - you make trouble in one particular forum you should get a ban there or site wide - not picking a choosing where the ban will effect the user the most - which is what this boils down to.


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    #198
    Dudess
    Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Helix wrote: »
    i dont post in poker
    Fair enough, but initially this just seemed to be: I've been banned for publishing what others said, which I agreed was most unfair, but now there's all this other stuff that you said yourself. Perhaps it was elsewhere but this is still quite a leap from the original issue.


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    #199
    dfx-
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,679 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    orestes wrote: »
    aaaaaaaaaall cowardly abusive bullying that deserved the people involved to be held accountable

    Theeeeeeenn Guan Yin should complain to Iwe and the technical staff at Xpert Eleven as it would be their jurisdiction, not boards.ie. I've played Xpert Eleven for 4 years and know some of the staff there and play in leagues with them. I do not play in the boards.ie league because I don't have quota. They are perfectly capable of dealing with abuse claims on their own site.

    They can dock manager points and hence managers cannot play in leagues based on their quota. They have their own disciplinary procedures relating to their site should they judge the case fairly.

    Bottom line: they do not get involved in other sites if the rivalry from the Xpert League causes problems on another site. Previous to this thread I would've thought that the obvious course of events, but now I'm not so sure.


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    #200
    lordgoat
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 11,371 Mod ✭✭✭✭lordgoat


    GuanYin wrote: »
    .

    But all in all, I complained to the admins and let them decide.
    Thanx 4 The Fish wrote: »
    Jesus, she did not take this action.

    Could I please ask that anybody who feels the need to post in this thread read back through all of the rest of the thread before posting. An informed post with an opinion is going to be taken a lot more seriously than a bunch of lads banging on a drum shouting their opinions but apparently about a completely separate issue.

    While she may not have banned him directly, taking the problems to the admins resulted in the same thing. If you can't see the connection i advise you to have a re read in case you may have missed something.

    I can understand the feeling of needing to do something about it, but surely the posts should have been reported on that site and not boards.


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    #201
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,459 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    orestes wrote: »
    So you admit that it was cowardly abuse and using that site to abuse a boards mod without getting sanctioned for it?
    Whats with this cowardly shíte?
    Saying nothing is cowardly imo.


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    #202
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    orestes wrote: »
    Just because you can't understand it doesn't mean it's not there

    So I'm stupid? Is that not abuse?


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    #203
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Helix wrote: »
    aaaaaaaall posted on a different forum


    Look if I link to porn which is hosted on a different site and the link is published here in one of my posts, I get banned.

    If I use the image tags to display an image which is hosted on another site which is porn in one of my posts, I get banned.

    Same principle, there is a precedent.


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    #204
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    orestes wrote: »
    So you admit that it was cowardly abuse and using that site to abuse a boards mod without getting sanctioned for it?

    nope, it was me giving an opinion on another forum. it has nothing to do with boards.ie admins


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    #205
    eagle eye
    Registered Users Posts: 38,459 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Look if I link to porn which is hosted on a different site and the link is published here in one of my posts, I get banned.

    If I use the image tags to display an image which is hosted on another site which is porn in one of my posts, I get banned.

    Same principle, there is a precedent.
    None of it was posted here or linked to by anyone here afaik.


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    #206
    Helix
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Look if I link to porn which is hosted on a different site and the link is published here in one of my posts, I get banned.

    If I use the image tags to display an image which is hosted on another site which is porn in one of my posts, I get banned.

    Same principle, there is a precedent.

    but i didnt post any of that stuff on boards.ie

    where its hosted doesnt come into it, it wasnt posted on boards.ie full stop


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    #207
    ShooterSF
    Registered Users Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    mayordenis wrote: »
    report it to the admins of the other site and have them deal with it - it's not boards.ie's remit to deal with anything from another forum.

    Just what I was about to post.
    +100


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    #208
    Jazzy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,315 ✭✭✭Jazzy


    GuanYin wrote: »
    Sorry to post again, but it was requested I clarify something....... *followed by lots of stuff*

    um, do u think they were posting all that stuff because "they have it in for you for an unjustified reason" or was it maybe because you were being a pain in the ass to them?
    take your licks.
    t4tf wrote:
    she did not take this action.

    all right, you put the line where you thought it was best suited. and why would that suit you? well perhaps it has been brought up quite a few times how you are a biased mod and so forth (not saying i think that) and that a blanket on any potential abuse would suit as it means it would make it a lot harder for ppl to rear these complaints. they would think twice and the reputation stays intact. it suits for the line to be put were you please, like it or not.


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    #209
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    eagle eye wrote: »
    None of it was posted here or linked to by anyone here afaik.

    I've certainly not seen any links to it being mentioned on boards. The only links I've seen are the ones from the other site.


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    #210
    Bounty Hunter
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 22,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bounty Hunter


    he may have been in the wrong but the important thing here is zero rules were broken and it didnt happen on boards, in no way should someone be punished even if they are wrong a its not boards related.

    yes someone used the name boards.ie league on this other site but from reading this ted it wasnt Helix, and neither he nor GY were i this league and the offensive posts were not made in this league either it was done in Helixs division 2, so m what exactley gives admin from boards the right to ban him? apart from of course the fact that they can ban whoever they want, but surely rules have to be broken first.


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    #211
    javaboy
    Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭javaboy


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Look if I link to porn which is hosted on a different site and the link is published here in one of my posts, I get banned.

    If I use the image tags to display an image which is hosted on another site which is porn in one of my posts, I get banned.

    Same principle, there is a precedent.

    That's nonsense and you know it. There's a rule about linking to or posting images of porn on this site. You'll find it in pretty much any charter on the site and probably in the site rules new users agree to when they sign up.

    It is explicitly against the rules and a ban would be expected and deserved. I don't think the principle transfers to this situation at all.


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