SFIV XGC meet on June 13th - anyone up for that?

Leprekaun

I suppose yeah. I mean if only 3 or 4 xboxs, I think we'd be alright and ps3s don't seem as popular so there is bound to be a few there too. I'll call them to let them know we're coming down anyway rather than a mob coming down out of nowhere

animaX

Leprekaun wrote: »

And finally, no, I'm not a mathematician, I'm just very technically minded

I am a mathematician, and I say your calculations are correct sir!

I have a disk which contains the back compatibility update for xbox360's so it shouldn't be a problem to play third strike.

Leprekaun

Excellent! honestly, I'm going more for 3S than IV :P. Too many bugs in IV in comparison to the otherwise perfect 3S.

animaX

Leprekaun wrote: »

Excellent! honestly, I'm going more for 3S than IV :P. Too many bugs in IV in comparison to the otherwise perfect 3S.

I've been playing a lot of IV lately and then went back to play a bit of third strike and I couldn't pull off any supers!! The timing is so much more strict. It's way to easy to pull off moves in IV, it makes you play lazy. Aparently, they have designed it so that you can pull off a dragon punch just by pressing down-forward, down-forward punch!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLxLEMxzjqM&feature=related

mr_kyle

In 3S you can perform dragon punch motions using df,d,df. So using df,df is not that much different. In SFIV I use df,d,df over df,df as I find it easier.

Leprekaun

Yeah, I guess thats what Yoshinoro meant when he said "a game that suits the casual and hardcore gamers" I think the hardcore bit is meant to be for the focus cancelling as you have to be razor sharp to time the focus cancel (i.e.: focus cancelling on the second hit of Ken's shoryuken) but really, even when you get the hang of the focus cancelling, it isn't even hard. 3S is definitely harder for the super cancelling. I found though, the difficulty varies from move to move.

Its easier to super cancel a shoryuken than a hadouken so it takes a bit of practice to super cancel off the hadouken.

Dreddybajs

Leprekaun wrote: »

Excellent! honestly, I'm going more for 3S than IV :P. Too many bugs in IV in comparison to the otherwise perfect 3S.

What bugs are you talking about?

Owwmykneecap

Well Vega misses the wall all the bloody time for one.

CodeMonkey

yeah that's one

K.O.Kiki

Nah, that's the game just telling you to stop playing Vega

Kirby

Leprekaun wrote: »

Excellent! honestly, I'm going more for 3S than IV :P. Too many bugs in IV in comparison to the otherwise perfect 3S.

regarding balance though.....surely SF4 has the edge? I mean, i'm no third strike player, but isnt there only three characters in the roster that are playable in tourneys without just falling over dead?

SF4 has ryu, sagat, balrog, dhalsim, Viper, Zangief, Bison, Rufus, Akuma who are all big tourney winning characters.....and I'm sure I left a few out.

Supposed I'm biased coz I was never a part of the sf3 scene but this one seems far more competitive. Besides, they will patch bugs....there already did it with that Fei long infinite thing.

Retr0gamer

I don't like the way SF3 has no long range game. Also I suck at it and can't parry.

Azza

3rd Strike and Super Turbo are probably better games than SF IV, but it took them several years and versions to get to the standard they are at now and even at that both are far from perfect games.

SF IV is abit too turtle friendly. Run away is easy with the wider arenas and the game speed is a little slow.

The concept of revenge guage is abit off. I mean rewarding a person for losing is abit silly. Encourages the person who is winning to turtle even more.

Having said that it probably has the best balance of any SF game so far. Super Turbo wasn't bad but 3rd Strike was laughable in that regard. Perhaps a 3rd Strike HD Remix might one day improve that.

In Street Figthers 4 defense its probably the best first version of any Street Fighter series which leaves me with high hopes that later versions will be improved gameplay and balance wise.

Also one thing the pro's like about Street Fighter 4 is it has an active scene and did a huge amount to restore a faltering genre. There is far more people playing SF IV than there is ST or 3rd Strike currently.

K.O.Kiki

I'm just waiting for the King of Iron Fist tournament to come rolling back into town.
That game will be the end of me.

Azza

Bah!....that game lacks pycho power therefore is absolutly useless too me.....useless!

Leprekaun

Well, I myself wouldn't really fall under the 3S scene as I only played it since I only got anniversary collection in 05 or 06. I understand how certain characters would mainly be used for tourneys but that doesn't mean everyone else is useless. Sure, IV is the same. Best ansatsuken fighter is Ryu so most top level ansatsuken players use Ryu. 3S was the same but with Ken.

But in both games, if you're not necessarily a top level player, other ansatsuken fighters are realistic choices. I mean, even after playing IV for a while and then trying 3S, I switched to Ryu when before I'd always use Ken but now I fight better with Ryu than Ken in 3S.

I know I'm not a top level player. I try to improve my play as I'm quite a competitive guy but thats about it. I myself am not bothered that I'm not even in the top 500 but I just enjoy it for what it is, a game.

Dreddybajs

Ken, Chun, Yun are the absolute top tier choices in 3S - this isn't so for IV is what people are saying, there are plenty of other viable characters in terms of matchups etc.

Kirby

Ken, Yun and chun li are really much, much better then everyone else.

Its so much closer in sf4. Yes, ryu is very good, but he isnt loads better than the list I gave you earlier. Obviously, the player skill matters the most. But all the best players in third strike picked those three......when you look at the top 20 or so players that have had good showings since sf4 came out, the cast of chars they use is much more varied. Hell, ive seen a couple people beast with chars like el feurte....in proper tournements. The videos are out there.

EDIT : beat me to it mate

Da Bounca

Will try to make it along for a while. I'll bring Soul Calibur along as well.

Dreddybajs

Fuerte's pretty decent, the only thing is that his whole gameplan is built around his RSF loop. :pac:

Placebo

i have not played 3S in ages and ive messed up my stick but i will clean the slate with 3S, BRING THAT MOTHER !!!!

Jim

Working again

Doctor DooM

Azza wrote: »

Bah!....that game lacks pycho power therefore is absolutly useless too me.....useless!

Never mind. You can kick my head in again for a few hours at IV.

chopperbyrne

Placebo wrote: »

i have not played 3S in ages and ive messed up my stick but i will clean the slate with 3S, BRING THAT MOTHER !!!!

I can vouch for Placebo here. Been on the receiving end of many a Chun raping.

I do play Alex and Necro though!

Jim

Ibuki ftw!

K.O.Kiki

Bah, it's all about Inspector Gadget.
I mean Q.

Kirby

So, how many numbers do we roughly have for next saturday? And I've never actually gone before so, Its the place on lower liffey street just off the quays yes?

Leprekaun

Yep, lower liffey st. If you're taking a bus down and arriving around 11:20, I could show you where it is.

Dreddybajs

I'll be there anyway, I think.

Jim

This is right between two nightshifts for me. Work strikes again