Breaking News on SSN: Bruce to Sunderland

Neil3030 · 03-06-2009 2:01pm #1

Still waiting for confirmation but SSN sources claiming done deal...

SlickRic · 03-06-2009 2:12pm

ah...you legend of a Geordie man.

Dub13 · 03-06-2009 3:00pm

Good old Sly Sports News with their Breaking News that everybody has knowing about for days now.

gimmick · 03-06-2009 3:34pm

Steve Bruces record braking attempt to manage every team in England continues in earnest......

That_Guy · 03-06-2009 5:42pm

Lucky mackems.

Charlie · 03-06-2009 8:05pm

Don't really understand this one.

Just seems like a move down, or sideways at best. Sure Sunderland have an owner who has the finances to spend big, but who is to say that he will do that, and more importantly, cash or no cash, Sunderland will always struggle to attract quality players.

I don't mean that as an insult to Sunderland, but the North East is a very difficult sell to players. Newcastle learnt this the hard way, more often than not having to settle for second best, and players who no one else really wanted.

mike65 · 03-06-2009 8:44pm

Sounds like a good appointment, Sunderland are now the top dog of the NE (shockingly!) and with the core they have can definitely improve their lot next season.

Boggles · 03-06-2009 8:54pm

Charlie wrote: »

Don't really understand this one.

Just seems like a move down, or sideways at best. Sure Sunderland have an owner who has the finances to spend big, but who is to say that he will do that, and more importantly, cash or no cash, Sunderland will always struggle to attract quality players.

I don't mean that as an insult to Sunderland, but the North East is a very difficult sell to players. Newcastle learnt this the hard way, more often than not having to settle for second best, and players who no one else really wanted.

Good appointment IMO,

AFAIK he only got a 3 year contract, bring a bit of stability in, give them a taste of what it is like not be in a relegation scrap for once, Bruce has also proved that he has an eye for talent and a bargain the last few years.

I don't think they could have done much better TBH.

RVN10 · 03-06-2009 9:01pm

Good appointment defo on the Sunderland behalf but I thought Brucey had a good team going at Wigan and Dave Whelan seems like a top bloke , I guess money talks .

Neil3030 · 03-06-2009 9:07pm

Might lash a cheeky fiver on Wigan to go down...

leninbenjamin · 03-06-2009 9:20pm

Chubb76 wrote: »

Good appointment defo on the Sunderland behalf but I thought Brucey had a good team going at Wigan and Dave Whelan seems like a top bloke , I guess money talks .

he had a good team going that was constantly being chipped at due to Whelan selling his best players. I don't think Bruce is all about the money.

Charlie · 03-06-2009 9:39pm

Boggles wrote: »

Good appointment IMO,

AFAIK he only got a 3 year contract, bring a bit of stability in, give them a taste of what it is like not be in a relegation scrap for once, Bruce has also proved that he has an eye for talent and a bargain the last few years.

I don't think they could have done much better TBH.

My confusion isn't why the Mackems would go for Bruce, he's more than proven himself to be up there as one of the most promising managers.

My confusion is to why he would go to them.

Berti Vogts · 03-06-2009 10:05pm

Charlie wrote: »

My confusion isn't why the Mackems would go for Bruce, he's more than proven himself to be up there as one of the most promising managers.

My confusion is to why he would go to them.

Sunderland are a far bigger club than Wigan. Just look at the attendances. No brainer for Bruce.

busted flush · 03-06-2009 10:19pm

Charlie wrote: »

My confusion isn't why the Mackems would go for Bruce, he's more than proven himself to be up there as one of the most promising managers.

My confusion is to why he would go to them.

because they are a selling club and the money was good enough for them!

Ardent · 03-06-2009 11:14pm

Whatever shred of goodwill I felt towards this club has disappeared with this appointment. Can't stand the bloke.

Good move for them I guess.

SlickRic · 03-06-2009 11:46pm

he'll do well, of that i've no doubt really.

excellent appointment.

not sure he was the 'high profile' name Quinny was banging on about :rolleyes:

but for me, he's as good a manager as Sunderland can hope to get at this stage.

Ardent · 04-06-2009 12:11am

SlickRic wrote: »

he'll do well, of that i've no doubt really.

excellent appointment.

not sure he was the 'high profile' name Quinny was banging on about :rolleyes:

but for me, he's as good a manager as Sunderland can hope to get at this stage.

Agreed. He should bring a degree of stability to the club for a couple of seasons, which is what they need.

RVN10 · 04-06-2009 12:46am

Titus Bramble for Sunderland lol , dont think that would go down too well with the toon faithful though.

That_Guy · 04-06-2009 12:58am

Chubb76 wrote: »

Titus Bramble for Sunderland lol , dont think that would go down too well with the toon faithful though.

It'd be great. If they got him he'd be the reason why they go down and we go back up to the Premier League.

kinaldo · 04-06-2009 1:02am

I think Titus would be an excellent Championship signing for Newcastle. Bassong and Bramble would be awesome.

RVN10 · 04-06-2009 1:04am

He got voted wigans player of the season so he must been doing something right ? Bet Heskey feels like a plod now after leaving Villa

kinaldo · 04-06-2009 1:09am

Chubb76 wrote: »

He got voted wigans player of the season so he must been doing something right ?

Bramble has so much footballing ability, and certainly more than most defenders at midtable Premiership level.

Pace, power, passing, heading, shooting, tackling. He's just lacking in confidence and a footballing brain.

Boggles · 04-06-2009 9:11am

Charlie wrote: »

My confusion isn't why the Mackems would go for Bruce, he's more than proven himself to be up there as one of the most promising managers.

My confusion is to why he would go to them.

Sorry Charlie mis understood.

I suppose Sunderland have talked and showed with money they are pretty ambitious, plus anytime this season Bruce spoke to the media it was about one of his players going elsewhere.

Bruce is actually a very, honest decent professional, he didn't put any spin on the Zaki episode and just said it like it was. Top Bloke.

Spud83 · 04-06-2009 9:18am

To me its fairly obvious why Bruce has gone to Sunderland. At Wigan he was going to have to build a new side practical every year, or even twice a year. Losing two massive players in Jan, another more than likely going this summer. Maybe he just couldn't face having to deal with those circumstances every year. Sunderland may not be offering him a shed load of cash(though all reports suggest he will have a decent transfer fund) they are probably only offering him the chance to build a side and not be such an openly selling club.

Headshot · 04-06-2009 9:29am

newcastle man managing sunderland ? i rate bruce but why go for him when the likes of gordan and mancini were interested

Berti Vogts · 04-06-2009 10:44am

Strachan? I would definitely appoint Bruce before him.

As for Mancini, there is a big difference between managing Inter successfully and doing the same with Sunderland.

King John V · 04-06-2009 11:12am

Headshot wrote: »

newcastle man managing sunderland ? i rate bruce but why go for him when the likes of gordan and mancini were interested

Bruce has alot of experience as a top flight manager, he knows the league, the players and the area. He achieved a good league finish with Wigan, a club with much smaller resources than Sunderland and has a good eye for talent, something that's badly needed at Sunderland. While Sunderland may not finish any higher than midtable (realistically) he should bring some much needed stability.

While Mancini's a 'big name' and top manager in his own right, he has no premier league experience. After narrowly avoiding relegation this year Mancini may have been too big a risk for the club at this stage of it's development.

leninbenjamin · 04-06-2009 12:10pm

King John V wrote: »

Bruce has alot of experience as a top flight manager, he knows the league, the players and the area. He achieved a good league finish with Wigan, a club with much smaller resources than Sunderland and has a good eye for talent, something that's badly needed at Sunderland. While Sunderland may not finish any higher than midtable (realistically) he should bring some much needed stability.

While Mancini's a 'big name' and top manager in his own right, he has no premier league experience. After narrowly avoiding relegation this year Mancini may have been too big a risk for the club at this stage of it's development.

i think the reason why no Premier League club has gone for Mancini would be the language barrier, i hear his english isn't great and it seems to me none of the clubs who were interested in him could really afford him the time to get to grips with the language.

as for Strachan, much of a muchness between him and Bruce. I'd go for Bruce meself as Strachan has been out of English football for a while, and Bruce has proven himself very capable of using his resources well which, given Roy's hemmoraging cash on useless squad players, is something Sunderland would really appreciate.

King John V · 04-06-2009 1:17pm

leninbenjamin wrote: »

i think the reason why no Premier League club has gone for Mancini would be the language barrier, i hear his english isn't great and it seems to me none of the clubs who were interested in him could really afford him the time to get to grips with the language.

I heard that too. If rumours are true his salary demands would price him out of most clubs reach and apart from Portsmouth none of the other 'bigger' clubs are on the lookout for a manager.

leninbenjamin wrote: »

Bruce has proven himself very capable of using his resources well which, given Roy's hemmoraging cash on useless squad players, is something Sunderland would really appreciate.

Good point. He has the core of a good team there already with lads like Ferdinand, Malbranque, Richardson and Jones. There were times last year when the team as a whole were too easy to break down/lacked work rate. If he can toughen the mentality and bring in 3 or 4 new players I feel they'll push on next season. I'm sure at this stage Niall would welcome a few central American bargains compared to overpriced championship players.

Guy:Incognito · 04-06-2009 1:24pm

Was it just me or did Bruce's Geordie accent step up a few notches for the press conference. Not sure if it was intentional or not but I copped it straight away.

Maybe it comes back to him when he gets into the north east.:)

Charlie · 04-06-2009 5:36pm

Stekelly wrote: »

Was it just me or did Bruce's Geordie accent step up a few notches for the press conference. Not sure if it was intentional or not but I copped it straight away.

Maybe it comes back to him when he gets into the north east.:)

TBF, i've always considered Bruce the most plastic of Geordies, he'll always be a Manc in my eyes.

Hes only seem to have talked about the North East and the region in the last year or two, with his eyes being on a job away from Wigan it seems.

Boggles · 04-06-2009 6:41pm

Charlie wrote: »

TBF, i've always considered Bruce the most plastic of Geordies, he'll always be a Manc in my eyes.

Hes only seem to have talked about the North East and the region in the last year or two, with his eyes being on a job away from Wigan it seems.

Jaysus Charlie, he was born there, he tried to play for the club, but was turned down.

Just because he moved away and became successful with United does not make him a plastic fan.

It makes him a professional footballer, who has declared on more than one occassion he would love to manage Newcastle United.

There arn't many sensible United fans having a go at Hughes for managing the under achievers across the road.

And lets face it Sunderland and Newcasle are no longer rivals, at least in the league for 12 months.

Charlie · 04-06-2009 6:47pm

Boggles wrote: »

Jaysus Charlie, he was born there, he tried to play for the club, but was turned down.

Just because he moved away and became successful with United does not make him a plastic fan.

It makes him a professional footballer, who has declared on more than one occassion he would love to manage Newcastle United.

There arn't many sensible United fans having a go at Hughes for managing the under achievers across the road.

And lets face it Sunderland and Newcasle are no longer rivals, at least in the league for 12 months.

It's got nothing to do with Sunderland.

Up until the last year two, he always played down his Geordie roots. Not that that is a crime, Bobby Charlton has done well enough for himself. But to ham it up, just because you're eyeing up a job is kinda plastic in my eyes.

Boggles · 04-06-2009 6:50pm

Charlie wrote: »

, he always played down his Geordie roots.

Do you blame him?

SlickRic · 04-06-2009 7:29pm

Boggles wrote: »

Do you blame him?

oooh...below the belt my good man :pac:

ctrl-alt-delete · 04-06-2009 8:13pm

Charlie wrote: »

It's got nothing to do with Sunderland.

Up until the last year two, he always played down his Geordie roots. Not that that is a crime, Bobby Charlton has done well enough for himself. But to ham it up, just because you're eyeing up a job is kinda plastic in my eyes.

Now i don't know whether he has or has not played down his roots,

I'm not doubting you just yet,

but can you tell me what makes you think he has?

Breaking News on SSN: Bruce to Sunderland

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