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English Paper 2 Leaked- Keep All Discussion to this thread- DUPLICATE THREADS LOCKED

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    #932
    Gavin "shels"
    Registered Users Posts: 17,965 ✭✭✭✭Gavin "shels"


    deemark wrote: »
    Guys, I hate to interrupt with a dose of sanity but:

    1. The system is fallible, as it relies on people and people make mistakes. The superintendent gave out the wrong paper, simple as.


    5. Having it on Saturday is the fairest thing to do. They couldn't change the entire exam timetable. Neither could they hold it at the end of the exams as it would delay the entire Leaving Cert results, by weeks possibly.


    8. Anybody who narrowed down his/her study to 2 poets and one Macbeth essay was asking for trouble.

    and breathe...

    You've a day off tomorrow guys, some of you. Use it to study instead of posting threats/conspiracies/wild guesses.

    btw I correct and this will probably postpone the conference and the marking (and my holiday plans). My colleagues have to come in on Saturday. Teachers are raging too!

    Good luck

    1. People make mistakes, but well not the day before 70,000 nervous students are going to sit there next Paper the following day and have the whole thing put upside down and leaving many stressing, which can't and won't help them for the next 2 weeks of exams.

    5. Well it's hardly fair, I've about 27 hours of exams starting 9.30 on Friday and finishing at 5.00 on Tuesday with one day off in between. So much for Batt O'Keeffes "nearly everyone will have at least one half-day within the first 3), ye grand I do and a day off, but then I'm bombarded with mountains.
    That_Guy wrote: »

    If you've studied thoroughly for English Paper 2 for your LC then you should have no problem regardless of whether they change the paper or not.


    If you haven't studied for the paper then that's your own fault. You've now got extra time to study for it which is something you don't get too often.


    There's other exams you have to deal with. Not just English.


    And remember just because you've no exam tomorrow morning doesn't mean you should lie in. Use what would have been exam time to study for that paper.

    Have you ever done your Leaving Cert, well if you have then you'd know nobody studies the whole English course as there is so much choice and so many things to rule out, therefore leaving a lot of us now in a big pile of poo.

    Great I've got extratime now to study for an exam I'd studied for today, but now I've to go and learn new stuff along with going over Maths Paper 1 and Geography.

    Well personnally I'm having a lie in tomorrow as well I'm being bombarded with 4 days out of 5 nearly full of exams and/or study.


    Good luck to the rest of you, and F**K ENGLISH PAPER 2.:cool:


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    #933
    star-pants
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,429 ✭✭✭✭star-pants


    deemark wrote: »
    YOU are in control of how well you do in your exams. Rants are fine, sitting on the pc all night venting is counter-productive.

    All of you, GO TO BED!

    +1 -- best plan :)


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    #934
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    fuNk90 wrote: »
    would doing walcott longley and mahon be enough for poets? or should i do bishop just to have a woman covered?

    Just do the 4. Sure it'll only take an extra hour or so?


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    #935
    Seanh111
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Seanh111


    Can someone please tel me what was on the paper? Please, please, please! Im freakin out here lik.!.


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    #936
    degausserxo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,492 ✭✭✭degausserxo


    thomasjad wrote: »
    its on adrian kennedy now


    Whaaaaaaat? They're talking about voting :S


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    #937
    GallowsGhost
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭GallowsGhost


    challengemaster wrote: »
    The exam papers, and backup papers, were made up long before the mocks were held. They won't be changing anything on the paper, it was made for a reason and it's not being changed. What's on it? Who knows.
    Shame there's no past backup papers to make predictions from!


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    #938
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,611 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Seanh111 wrote: »
    Can someone please tel me what was on the paper? Please, please, please! Im freakin out here lik.!.

    Banqo
    (some **** theme that would have made me cry)

    CC
    GVV

    Longley
    Bishop
    Walcott
    Keats


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    #939
    Twinkle-star15
    Registered Users Posts: 392 ✭✭Twinkle-star15


    challengemaster wrote: »
    Firstly, Mocks have nothing to do with the actual state exams (Leaving Cert). They are made up by a group of people with the intention of making money, first and foremost. In doing so, they provide some sort of experience of LC examinations. The fact that what was on the exam papers came up in the mocks, is just pure chance. The exam papers, and backup papers, were made up long before the mocks were held. They won't be changing anything on the paper, it was made for a reason and it's not being changed. What's on it? Who knows.

    They're also supposed to be indicators of the kinds of questions asked in the real thing. In general 80%-90% of what's on the mocks is also on the leaving cert. Not everything, but they are very similar.


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    #940
    Antamojo
    Registered Users Posts: 404 ✭✭Antamojo


    I can only imagine the oul ones ringing Joe Duffy tomorrow.
    "Me bleedin' daughter is totally stressed Joe, what am I goin' to do? To quote Didier Drogba it's a disgrace."


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    #941
    Saffy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 73 ✭✭Saffy


    This is just so annoying!!
    Its wrecked up all my study timetable!

    Bloody retard in Louth!!:mad:


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    #942
    xOxSinéadxOx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    I don't get why they couldn't have had the 2nd paper printed and out to every centre by tomorrow morning. they knew as soon as paper 1 was over I presume. they would have been up all night probably but so what?


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    #943
    marzabar
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭marzabar


    was so convinced it was nothing more than a hoax...

    :(


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    #944
    implausible
    Registered Users Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Sean_Ludawg wrote: »
    No I just find it funny that teachers have found something to moan about.
    The rest of your post was valid and realistic.

    It wasn't a moan, it was a point. This mistake has screwed up a lot of people's plans, most importantly the students', obviously. I've spent this evening on the phone speaking to some of my HL students, who I genuinely give a crap about. This is a huge mistake, I'm raging too, but sh#t happens, you have to get on with it...in life and exams.


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    #945
    Mockatron
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15 ✭Mockatron


    All this fuss regarding English Paper 2 being leaked today is exactly why the A-Levels should be more widely available to students in this country. What happened today is an absolute disgrace and the State Examinations Commission should be ashamed. I do feel sorry for the Supervisor though. It was inevitable to happen one day. HE SHOULD NOT BE SACKED. Those contingency papers should have been secretly sent out. I mean the SEC had all day!!!

    But to keep to point... todays happenings is precisely why the A-Levels should be a real alternative to exam students in the Republic of Ireland. I say well done to The <People I keep pimping> for in a way, rebelling against a tired system.

    All Universities/IT's accept them so why not make them an alternative. As Barack Obama has said many a time 'We need CHANGE'


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    #946
    The Maverick
    Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭The Maverick


    I hope they don't give out Paper Three on Saturday.


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    #947
    Seanh111
    Registered Users Posts: 93 ✭✭Seanh111


    What was on the leaked paper people? PLEASE!


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    #948
    ibFoxer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,461 ✭✭✭ibFoxer


    Okay, as i have something of a vested interest in this years exams, given that i have spent the last 2 years tutoring LC students on the English, i happened to take a chance and i rang the junior press officer for the SEC.

    I told her who i was and that i was not looking for hints as to what was on the replacement paper, but just to know was it going to be the polar opposite of the leaked paper. She said no, it will be more or less the same, but with slight differences. Obviously this is extremely vague, however i took it as this:

    • The poets will most likely be the same
    • The comparitive, i would probably look at GVV and Cultural Context
    • Macbeth is where the differences may come, i would look at a character question for this
    I wish i had more to impart, but all i can say is that in general, a contigencey plan is based on the original, and in the event of a back-up paper needing to be used, it will be sufficently different that in the event of the original being compromised, it wont guarantee an automatic A for the entire country(word of mouth etc).

    However, it will be sufficently similiar aswell, because as mentioned earlier, almost every teacher of higher level English bases their teaching methods on predicting what is likely to come up on the paper, and while the SEC is interested in testing the potential of the examinees, they do not want to screw them over entirely.

    Best of luck to all who are doing their exams, and try not to stress because of this, you now have an extra full day of study.....use it wisely.


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    #949
    xOxSinéadxOx
    Registered Users Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭xOxSinéadxOx


    Mockatron wrote: »
    All this fuss regarding English Paper 2 being leaked today is exactly why the A-Levels should be more widely available to students in this country. What happened today is an absolute disgrace and the State Examinations Commission should be ashamed. I do feel sorry for the Supervisor though. It was inevitable to happen one day. HE SHOULD NOT BE SACKED. Those contingency papers should have been secretly sent out. I mean the SEC had all day!!!

    But to keep to point... todays happenings is precisely why the A-Levels should be a real alternative to exam students in the Republic of Ireland. I say well done to The <People I keep pimping> for in a way, rebelling against a tired system.

    All Universities/IT's accept them so why not make them an alternative. As Barack Obama has said many a time 'We need CHANGE'

    we do the leaving cert here. get over it.


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    #950
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Gavin shels wrote: »
    with mountains.
    Have you ever done your Leaving Cert, well if you have then you'd know nobody studies the whole English course as there is so much choice and so many things to rule out, therefore leaving a lot of us now in a big pile of poo.

    I have done my Leaving Cert and yes the English course is fairly intensive but it'd be foolish to rule out anything. Every year there's predictions as to what's coming up but these predictions are never accurate. Cover yourself from every angle.
    Great I've got extratime now to study for an exam I'd studied for today, but now I've to go and learn new stuff along with going over Maths Paper 1 and Geography.

    Well if you've studied for English paper 2 then there's no problem here. Use the time tomorrow to go over Maths and Geography.
    Well personnally I'm having a lie in tomorrow as well I'm being bombarded with 4 days out of 5 nearly full of exams and/or study.

    Have a lie in then if you so wish but it would be strongly recommended that you use your time wisely.

    Good luck to the rest of you, and F**K ENGLISH PAPER 2.:cool:

    Yep sensible alright. :rolleyes:


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    #951
    Dman001
    Registered Users Posts: 5,534 ✭✭✭Dman001


    Man it still seems so surreal. Its like something you'd see on a TV Show. I still can't believe it.


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    #952
    SantryRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,224 ✭✭✭✭SantryRed


    Seanh111 wrote: »
    What was on the leaked paper people? PLEASE!


    Read f**king up.


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    #953
    Fad
    Registered Users Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    johner1 wrote: »
    theres no paper three for foundation u retard


    You didnt know about Paper 3?

    And you're dismissing him?


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    #954
    fuNk90
    Closed Accounts Posts: 30 ✭fuNk90


    deemark wrote: »
    It wasn't a moan, it was a point. This mistake has screwed up a lot of people's plans, most importantly the students', obviously. I've spent this evening on the phone speaking to some of my HL students, who I genuinely give a crap about. This is a huge mistake, I'm raging too, but sh#t happens, you have to get on with it...in life and exams.
    but it shouldnt be allowed happen should it? considering many people will be looking for massive points? should something like this be allowed happen? no


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    #955
    That_Guy
    Registered Users Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Seanh111 wrote: »
    What was on the leaked paper people? PLEASE!

    Ink I'd say. :)


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    #956
    Waaahhh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭Waaahhh


    Mockatron wrote: »
    All this fuss regarding English Paper 2 being leaked today is exactly why the A-Levels should be more widely available to students in this country. What happened today is an absolute disgrace and the State Examinations Commission should be ashamed. I do feel sorry for the Supervisor though. It was inevitable to happen one day. HE SHOULD NOT BE SACKED. Those contingency papers should have been secretly sent out. I mean the SEC had all day!!!

    But to keep to point... todays happenings is precisely why the A-Levels should be a real alternative to exam students in the Republic of Ireland. I say well done to The <People I keep pimping> for in a way, rebelling against a tired system.

    All Universities/IT's accept them so why not make them an alternative. As Barack Obama has said many a time 'We need CHANGE'

    Ehhh...how the hell is this precisely why the A levels should be introduced?? This has got nothing to do with the quality or lack thereof with regard to the Leaving Cert. Keeping to the point indeed....:pac:


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    #957
    fatcat90
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1 ✭fatcat90


    <snip> Text speak is against the charter.</snip>


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    #958
    jkbrackens11
    Registered Users Posts: 263 ✭✭jkbrackens11


    There may be more of a chance of Theme of Kingship coming up in Macbeth now. Think I'll do another poet.


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    #959
    likely_lass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 335 ✭✭likely_lass


    Dman001 wrote: »
    Man it still seems so surreal. Its like something you'd see on a TV Show. I still can't believe it.

    go to bed


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    #960
    peanuthead
    Registered Users Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭peanuthead


    leesmom wrote: »
    omg shut up your bull****,anyone who believes this is pretty stupid we would have heard about it if it had happened go and do some study!!!


    Hmmm... A bit quick off the mark were we?


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    eVeNtInE
    Registered Users Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭eVeNtInE


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