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Novels about novels

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  • 04-06-2009 1:49pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 79 ✭✭


    I recently read Italo Calvino's 'If on a Winters Night a Traveller' and found it basically to be a book about the process of novel writing.

    This got me thinking about other books (fiction) that the writer uses their knowledge and emotions about their craft as the central theme or plot of their book.

    The only one I came up with so far is Misery by Stephen King, which shows a distorted account of the relationship between reader and writer.

    Can anyone think of any other interesting ones. Fiction only as I am sure there are thousands of non-fiction books on the art of writing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,056 ✭✭✭claire h


    Claire Kilroy's latest, All Names Have Been Changed, is about creative writing (and group dynamics within a writing group).

    There's a book called Nell's Novel by some (I'm almost 100% sure) Irish writer in which the heroine is writing two novels, one Serious Intellectual Deep one and one fun historical romance.

    I would highly recommend Michael Chabon's Wonder Boys.

    Trying to think of others... I think there's probably another Stephen King one that features a writer, if not more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭hatful


    Books about Books:

    http://inkwellbookstore.blogspot.com/2009/05/booksellers-pick-their-favorite-books.html -A list

    Books about the writing process:

    "What I talk about when I talk about running" Haruki Murakami

    The Book within a Book:

    "The Master and Margarita" Mikhail Bulgakov

    "The Man in the High Castle" Philip K. Dick


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭994


    jm coetzee's "foe"


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭Valmont


    Vladimir Nabokov's Pale Fire might interest you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,291 ✭✭✭eclectichoney


    Paul Auster's Book of Illusions probably counts :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭Fr Clint Power


    'Any Human Heart' by William Boyd might interest you too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭DTrotter


    I think The Affirmation by Christopher Priest might fall into this category. Very god book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 897 ✭✭✭oxygen_old


    Cloud Atlas is one of these. Its layered really well. Each story breaks in the middle, and the main character of the next story is reading/watching/listening to the previous characters story. It means each story is fiction in fiction, so by the last story, your 5 times removed from reality. Also all the storys are linear in time, so you start in a pre Columbus ship, and end in a post apocolyptic future.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    claire h wrote: »
    Trying to think of others... I think there's probably another Stephen King one that features a writer, if not more.
    The Dark Half was another one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    Sort of -
    • The Information, Martin Amis - it sucks being a serious author it would seem
    • Cloud Atlas - A books with books in books ....
    • The Master and Margarita, Mikhail Bulgakov - 2 books, one about the guy who writes the second which drives him mad


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 313 ✭✭Ho-Hum


    As someone mentioned above Master & the Margarita and The man in the high Castle are well worth the read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭i71jskz5xu42pb


    The Surgeon of Crowthorne - Simon Winchester, also a great book, tells the story of the creation of the first OED.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭Sammy Jennings


    The Counterlife by Philip Roth, although be warned: for it to cohere you'd need to be somewhat familiar with Roth's earlier books.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    At Swim Two Birds?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    Stephen King 'On Writing'

    Sandra Newman and Howard Mittlemark 'How not to write a novel'

    Some good recommendations in this thread but I found Cloud Atlas difficult, underwhelming and not that clever.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭gaf1983


    Sandor wrote: »
    At Swim Two Birds?

    Most definitely.

    "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier & Clay" by Michael Chabon could fall into the category as long as we count comic books as novels.

    "The Ghost" by Robert Harris, though this is really about the process of writing a biography as opposed to a novel.

    Regarding other forms of media, I know that Brian the Dog has been struggling through the writing process to come up with his great novel over the course of a good few seasons in Family Guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,199 ✭✭✭Shryke


    I've read Kavalier and Clay but I wouldn't have thought of it. Good call.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 191 ✭✭WinstonSmith


    Whilst many may undoubtedly disagree with this, but for me, 'At Swim Two Birds' is in a class of its own in this description. (By Flann O'Brien/Myles Na gCoppaleen/Brian O'Nolan etc...)


  • Registered Users Posts: 285 ✭✭randomguy


    Some good ones there.

    I'd add Margaret Atwood's The Blind Assasin.


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