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HL Maths- Sequences and Series problem

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  • 04-06-2009 8:29pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭


    Anyone able to explain the answer of this to me? I'm posting solution but don't know how it was gotten.

    Express in terms of n:
    (i) 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 2n
    (ii) 2+ 4 + 6 + ... + 2n
    (iii) 1 + 3 + 5 + ... + (2n-1).

    Solutions:

    (i) 2n(2n+1)/2

    =2n^2 + n.

    (ii) 2(1 + 2 + 3 + ... +n)

    =2(n)(n+1)/2
    =n^2 + n

    (iii) (1 + 2 + ... + 2n) - (2 + 4 + ... +2n)

    = (2n^2 + n) - (n^2 + n)
    =n^2.


    They seem like some sort of arithmetic series but using the formula of Sn doesn't get the answer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭yummy91


    what Sn formula are you using cause they worked out for me.
    I used sn= n/2(2a+(n-1)d)

    (i) d=1
    a=1
    n=2n
    Sn= 2n/2 (2(1)+(2n-1)1)
    = 2n(2+2n-1)/2
    = 2n(2n+1)/2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,082 ✭✭✭Pygmalion


    They are arithmetic. Just looking at them I'd say:

    1) a = 1, d = 1, but it goes to 2n, so double what you get for Sn.

    2) a = 2, d = 2, it goes to 2n, but since it's going up in 2s it only has n terms, so the Sn formula should work.

    3) a = 1, d = 2, goes to (2n - 1), but again, that's just n terms, I'd imagine Sn formula should work.

    I haven't done these out though so might have made stupid mistake (might go get my copy and try them)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    ll do them and scan them for you dman


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    (i) 1 + 2 + 3 + ... + 2n

    a = 1 , d =1

    (ii) 2+ 4 + 6 + ... + 2n

    a = 2, d = 1

    (iii) 1 + 3 + 5 + ... + (2n-1).

    a=1 d=2

    Sub them into: (n/2)(2a+(n-1)d)

    EDIT: Was beaten to it!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    1 worked out.:D

    The others however....:o


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  • Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭Dubs


    theyre the natural number ones

    formulas are:
    En = 1 + 2 + 3 ... + n = (n/2)(n + 1)

    and

    En^2 = (1^2) + (2^2) + (3^2) ... (n^2) = (n/6)(n + 1)(2n + 1)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    Dubs wrote: »
    theyre the natural number ones

    formulas are:
    En = 1 + 2 + 3 ... + n = (n/2)(n + 1)

    and

    En^2 = (1^2) + (2^2) + (3^2) ... (n^2) = (n/6)(n + 1)(2n + 1)

    There we are!

    Well spotted.:D

    What do you do for 3 though?


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The first one works out all natural numbers.

    The second one works out all even numbers.

    The third part asks you to find the sum of the odd numbers.

    So, sum of odd = (sum of all) - (sum of even).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 80 ✭✭yummy91


    Dubs wrote: »
    theyre the natural number ones

    formulas are:
    En = 1 + 2 + 3 ... + n = (n/2)(n + 1)

    damn it i got it wrong!! :(
    really really hope that that doesnt happen tomorrow.... hehe.... sooo f***ed:o:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 883 ✭✭✭DmanDmythDledge


    Nice one lads.

    Now to go back over everything in differentiation and integration and I'm sorted. Going to be a long night.:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    Sequences and series are so hard it's annoying that it's two questions on the paper - I have no choice now. Still gave it a go today thought and am trying to learn the like 10 formulas for sequence and series :(

    Why don't they give them on the tables!!!


  • Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Sequences and series are so hard it's annoying that it's two questions on the paper - I have no choice now. Still gave it a go today thought and am trying to learn the like 10 formulas for sequence and series :(

    Why don't they give them on the tables!!!

    It's only one question: Question 4. Although, very rarely, bits of it crop up in 1/2/5 - very rarely, though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,632 ✭✭✭SligoBrewer


    Sequences and series are so hard it's annoying that it's two questions on the paper - I have no choice now. Still gave it a go today thought and am trying to learn the like 10 formulas for sequence and series :(

    Why don't they give them on the tables!!!

    Well its not really two full questions.
    Especially when you factor [(pun) :pac:] in Logs, Binomial and Induction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭Killaqueen!!!


    Yeah, but I suck at Q5 anyway because it not only has sequences and series but, as you mentioned, binomial, logs etc. which I also suck at :D

    I'm actually writing out a list of formulaes needed for those two questions and it's unbelievable. I know you're not supposed to have to remember something like the binomial (it's like the -b formula you're supposed to know it from doing it) but....

    Un= Sn - Sn-1

    Arithmetic:

    Un=a + (n-1)d

    Sn= n/2 [2a+(n-1)d]

    Test for Arithmetic: Un+1 - Un = Constant

    Geometric

    Un= ar^n-1

    Sn= a(1-r^n) / 1-r

    Sum to infinity= a/1-r

    Test for Geometric: Un+1/Un = Constant


    Series

    Sum r = n/2 (n+1)

    Sum r squared: n/6 (n+1)(2n+1)


    Binomial

    The binomial theorem, its general term and middle term



    Like seriously, too much :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 264 ✭✭TheManWho


    I personally think it's the best topic on the paper, and I can say all of those formulas from memory with ease. But....hmm....that doesn't help you much does it


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,533 ✭✭✭Zonda999


    If anyone is looking over that question, i advise looking over the telescopic series, and the arithmetico-geometric series. The latter may be a part C but theyre actually rather easy. Hopin for a good Q4 & 5 tomorrow. Then the plan is to leave out one of the algebra(Probably the 2nd one judging by past papers) and possibly one of the differentiation questions


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