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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    tune i made ages ago, may as well make use of the space on my soundcloud

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/piszaboutin-cliche-house-bass-thing

    Good song. I think that the bassliine that was brought in after the breakdown could have been brought in earlier. It really drives the song along when it comes in.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Rockshamrover


    The greatly anticipated follow up track to Spark is now up on soundcloud.

    http://soundcloud.com/rockshamrover/night-and-day


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    a few tracks i uploaded tonight

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/wears-off

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/every-single-sound

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/out-back

    they still need some decent mastering and better arrangement etc, just some ballpark ideas


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    a few tracks i uploaded tonight

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/wears-off

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/every-single-sound

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/out-back

    they still need some decent mastering and better arrangement etc, just some ballpark ideas

    Wears off sounds good. There's a lot good sounds and ideas in there.

    Are you using a maschine?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    krd wrote: »
    Wears off sounds good. There's a lot good sounds and ideas in there.

    Are you using a maschine?

    cheers man, appreciate it

    no maschine, just software and the midi keyboard...tho im definetely interested in getting my hands on one of those

    i mainly use guru for my drum sequencing

    in that track the organy sound is from a great vst whose name slips my mind at the moment (head like a sieve) but i'll look it up for you if interested, used it for the bassline too, and the awesome free tal U-NO-62, juno 60 emulator plus the arp2600 among others


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    Speaking of maschine heres a track my and my friend Bren (Citizen Black) made exclusively on it.

    Tech House track with some old school elements, nice and simple but i reckon it works

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-citizen-black-techniques-tricks


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    do you find with mashcine that your workflow is more fluid?

    i always found that way with hardware, it's way easier to get something flowing and adding in stuff faster when inspired
    i suppose that goes without saying really

    i think im well getting over sitting there inputting drum hits with a mouse to get a simple beat going

    the only thing that would put me off of mashcine, is ni software

    do you find it buggy? - edit: with the mashcine that is

    edit 2 : after finishing listening to the track, it's got a lovely phat sound to it...is that exclusively on the mashcine, as in no plug in mastering added?


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    a kind of housey proggy driving tune (ie repetitive :D)

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/wurbbly-gummage


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    cheers man, appreciate it

    no maschine, just software and the midi keyboard...tho im definetely interested in getting my hands on one of those

    i mainly use guru for my drum sequencing

    in that track the organy sound is from a great vst whose name slips my mind at the moment (head like a sieve) but i'll look it up for you if interested, used it for the bassline too, and the awesome free tal U-NO-62, juno 60 emulator plus the arp2600 among others

    I've been using the Tal sh-101 thingy and the Tal Electro. They're all right in sometimes I can't figure out why they won't let me do certain things.

    Just downloaded the Juno emulator.

    Can you remember the thing you have for making the organ sounds?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    Speaking of maschine heres a track my and my friend Bren (Citizen Black) made exclusively on it.

    Tech House track with some old school elements, nice and simple but i reckon it works

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-citizen-black-techniques-tricks

    Your stuff is so slick. The vocal sample really works well.

    I've been looking over the Macshine on Youtube. It looks like they've combined all the elements of different grooveboxes into one box - and solved all the drawbacks.- even has very similar layout to other groove boxes.

    For the price it's excellent.

    I don't really want one at the minute - but wouldn't mind getting one sometime in the future. I keep figuring out different things I can do in Ableton. I think I'll see how far I can push it before I try anything else.

    With the original grooveboxes you can make stuff very quickly just by jamming with them. They're also just that little bit more musical than laptops. But they all have drawbacks making it difficult to get what you've jammed into a complete track - without the flubbs and any sounds that need correcting corrected. And to do some stuff on them takes a lot of work.

    The Maschine looks like it allows you to make stuff very quickly. With less headaches.

    But it's funny - I've heard from other people, they can use a DAW fine but can never cope with a Groovebox. A bit like people who can use a PC but freakout with a Mac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Rockshamrover


    The greatly anticipated follow up track to Spark is now up on soundcloud.

    http://soundcloud.com/rockshamrover/night-and-day

    This one just hit a thousand plays in 3 days on Soundcloud. Thanks so much to anyone here who played it:)

    Vinny and Dave.


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    do you find it buggy? - edit: with the mashcine that is

    edit 2 : after finishing listening to the track, it's got a lovely phat sound to it...is that exclusively on the mashcine, as in no plug in mastering added?

    To be fair at the start the software wasnt running to smoothly for me, bearing in mind im running a pretty ****ty 4 year old sony vaio. But since NI updated the software which they have done about 3 times now there has been absolutely no hiccups.

    Dont use any third party things its all done exclusively on the Maschine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    krd wrote: »
    With the original grooveboxes you can make stuff very quickly just by jamming with them. They're also just that little bit more musical than laptops. But they all have drawbacks making it difficult to get what you've jammed into a complete track - without the flubbs and any sounds that need correcting corrected. And to do some stuff on them takes a lot of work.

    The Maschine looks like it allows you to make stuff very quickly. With less headaches.

    But it's funny - I've heard from other people, they can use a DAW fine but can never cope with a Groovebox. A bit like people who can use a PC but freakout with a Mac.

    Well funny you say that, i think ive got a thing for grooveboxes actually. I started out on reason and was kind of getting sick of the interface. I ended up getting a Korg EMX and it really helped my workflow so much, reminding me of playing guitar, it was more like an instrument. And it was great for playing live, i still like playing my live set with just the emx and a kaoss pad.

    http://soundcloud.com/colortv/stephen-donaldson-live-colortv-27-03-10

    When i saw the maschine was coming out it managed to solve my problem and combined work flow with the advantages of having a software sequencer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭M O N T O




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Will give it a listen.

    Gotta say, Love the link though, Granny basher rough unfinished.

    I lol'd


  • Registered Users Posts: 115 ✭✭M O N T O


    haha I completely overlooked that! Ah well, whats done is done.

    Cheers! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Intro seemed fairly long, gets a bit repetetive after about 10-11 seconds because it's a short loop, liked it though, good work.

    Just my opinion, would definitely like to hear it when you're done, will check out a few other of the tracks up there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    After trying out something a tiny bit more interesting beat wise on the Xpander remix thing for here I did up this tune:

    http://soundcloud.com/android-78/james-woods

    Basically it's me trying to stretch myself a bit more beat wise. It'd be great to get a bit feedback on it. Cheers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    spent a few hours this morning doing a few subtle changes and a bit of mastering on the xapander tune to find it locked :mad: - balls lol

    may as well throw it up in here

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/xpander-squelchy-mix-2-late


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    spent a few hours this morning doing a few subtle changes and a bit of mastering on the xapander tune to find it locked :mad: - balls lol

    may as well throw it up in here

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/xpander-squelchy-mix-2-late

    The version you had up was fine.

    I regret doing mine now - it came out sounding like bad Moldovian butter festival trance. (which I have admit, is what I was aiming for )


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    M O N T O wrote: »

    I really like the sounds you have there. That could be a really good track if you finish it. You should really work on it. It might take you a few attempts but I think you have something there.


    Where did you get the drum sounds from? Can I have them? I'd like to do that sound but I'm lacking a few bits and pieces.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    mr hats wrote: »
    Whats the synth your usin?

    Nothing fancy. Ableton's native synths and few of the Tal synths.


    I haven't thought of using the synths to produce kicks and toms. I don't really now if the attack is sharp enough on them. I have used and 808 kick as a bass though. I'm thinking of trying to sample straight off a recording I like to see if I can get clean hits (or clean enough at least)

    How did you get those sounds on your track? I'm also looking to make some similar sounds.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    krd wrote: »
    Nothing fancy. Ableton's native synths and few of the Tal synths.


    I haven't thought of using the synths to produce kicks and toms. I don't really now if the attack is sharp enough on them. I have used and 808 kick as a bass though. I'm thinking of trying to sample straight off a recording I like to see if I can get clean hits (or clean enough at least)

    How did you get those sounds on your track? I'm also looking to make some similar sounds.
    I wouldnt bother with synthesizing drum hits(well not kicks or snares)

    Best and easiest is to use samples.also if you like a particular drum sound cut it out of the track and keep it


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Truth, you can get DVDs with thousands of drum samples on them, what's the point in making work for yourself?

    Aaaanyway, so the other night I was lying awake pondering the mystery of why the hell more people aren't making 80's style electronic-funk-house tunes about handcuffs.

    Then I got up and put this track together:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAYJH5x01eU

    I would greatly appreciate feedback from all quarters.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Truth, you can get DVDs with thousands of drum samples on them, what's the point in making work for yourself?

    I have hundreds of kicks - most of them turn out to be just slightly different pitched versions of each other. And I don't have some of the ones I want. Auditioning hundreds of clips is a good way to lose your mind.

    Though I'm going try that trick of sampling hits straight off someone else's track.

    Aaaanyway, so the other night I was lying awake pondering the mystery of why the hell more people aren't making 80's style electronic-funk-house tunes about handcuffs.

    Then I got up and put this track together:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAYJH5x01eU

    I would greatly appreciate feedback from all quarters.

    It's good - it's sounds close to the real thing.

    Your bass line though, lacks a continuous groove (it's missing a few notes where I'd expect it to bubble along it's fine but there's bit that seem to be 'where'd my groove go, aw it's back , aw it's gone again )- the notes could with being accented and Groove quantised (my Ableton groove quant doesn't work for some reason) - You could also do this by hand - something I'm trying to figure out how to do - something that's depressing me, because I know what it is but don't know how to do it. Something like the cowbell - the lonely cowbell - where it's going wrong is not that it's in time - it should be slightly out. And maybe a ghost note hear there wouldn't hurt.

    If you set up a solid 4X4 kick with a snare on each back beat. And then play a simple but groovy accompaniment on a hand drum and record it. You'll notice that you're hits as well as having different accents will be slightly out of time. And it will sound ok. If you pull the individual hits into absolute correct time it will sound weirdly off. (I know this from experimenting the other night).

    You also try using a few different reverbs and echos on the voice in different places to make it a little more interesting. And may be have a few pops and weird noises in the background.

    For 80s style vocal sampling tricks, listen to the Art of Noise.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEPq0FvFm3g I'm sure there must be some great long forgotten and obscure 80s extended 12" mixes out there - if only you knew where to start looking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    seannash wrote: »
    I wouldnt bother with synthesizing drum hits(well not kicks or snares)

    Best and easiest is to use samples.also if you like a particular drum sound cut it out of the track and keep it

    I'm going to give it a try.

    I'm just trying to build up the nerve to do it. I think I have a track with some clean hits of what I'm looking for. Then may be they're not clean and I'll drive myself nuts trying to pick them out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 352 ✭✭splitrmx


    Goldbaby have some of the best drum machine sample kits I've heard so far: http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/

    They recorded a few classic drum machines (606, 808, 909, Linndrum, DMX, lots of other rarer ones, and lots of synths too) through various analogue outboard channel strips, compressors and EQs. They also recorded lots of them onto tape and first too.

    You have to pay for most of them, they're definitely the best drum samples around though. They have a fair few free kits too: http://www.goldbaby.co.nz/freestuff.html


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    @ Krd thanks a lot :)


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