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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    I've been asked to remix a track from an indie band's upcoming EP, to be released with it. Started throwing ideas together today, a lot of advice needed/wanted. It kind of the vague structure of the track pressed into a minute. Not happy with the drums, but any general advice would be good. What I'm kind of looking for is a big long build-up, and then a huge drop when the unedited vocals come in. Not happening for me yet though.

    Stream:

    http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/7019633/file.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    Alright dudes. Me new moniker. A few releases over the next few months.

    http://soundcloud.com/bawdcaster


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    jtsuited wrote: »
    Alright dudes. Me new moniker. A few releases over the next few months.

    http://soundcloud.com/bawdcaster

    Awesome!! Love the new alias, was wondering why you havent been uploading any new tracks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    SteveDon wrote: »
    Awesome!! Love the new alias, was wondering why you havent been uploading any new tracks!

    yeah what with being a semi legitimate artist and whatnot I've had to keep everything that's gonna be released pretty much out of sight of everyone!

    Cheers man, glad you enjoy. Here's to a future of rewinds, bo selecta's and all those other things us house heads can't even begin to understand.....'bo'.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    jtsuited wrote: »
    Alright dudes. Me new moniker. A few releases over the next few months.

    http://soundcloud.com/bawdcaster

    Just a question about the tracks. I've never mixed a track in my life. The long drumless intros - is that meant to mix when it's play or is it dropped out?

    Interesting vocals on those recordings - Some nice sounds on there too.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    krd wrote: »
    Just a question about the tracks. I've never mixed a track in my life. The long drumless intros - is that meant to mix when it's play or is it dropped out?

    Well for those kind of tunes there are at least some markers so they're easy to mix. Fairly common in that type of music.
    The only stuff you'd put just straight kicks in at the start of is house and techno.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Stab*City wrote: »
    Thanks i think..

    When you say noobish, in what way?

    It's kind of Noobish to repeat the same melody over again with little variations - usually a melodic break is good - where the melody changes or there's something completely different. There's also not much variation in the drum pattern - even tiny variations here and there can make a huge different - some are as simple as dropping a kick for a bar or even a beat. And you haven't done any fills. You don't need to. Very slight variations can go along way.

    I listened to it a good few times, after a few listens I could hear more in there. There's an interesting melody in the Arp parts. I don't know how you could accentuate the melody - maybe making certain parts louder. It's also a good idea if you're using arps, to slightly change some of the notes across it, so it doesn't repeat everything absolutely.

    Then again, I listen to it a few times and it's fine as it is.

    So, I don't know, you could leave it as it is.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    New peak time tech house track

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-lay-back

    Hope you enjoy!

    That's actually really good - it woke me up, I was falling asleep.

    The explosion sound is pretty good. The noise sweeps are really good too
    The production is really good. Though I think the piano riff goes on a bit towards the end without changing much - just listening to it - it might sound good if you started to lose notes from it as it moves on - maybe even throw in a few.

    Thanks for all the notes on my track. Thanks for the advice. I have to figure out better ways of making tracks - I do not have this thing down to a fine art - I'll figure something out.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    New peak time tech house track

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-lay-back

    Hope you enjoy!

    Just listening to your track again. There's some really nice subtle bits I didn't pick up the first time around. I lack subtly - something I should learn. Really like that tape reverb or whatever it is you have on the main organ.

    You were good before but you definitely sound like you're getting better.

    Thanks again for the advice on my track. I knew about some of the problems in there but some of the advice really opened my eyes. It's the first time I tried wobble bass and it's a little pathetic how it turned out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    SteveDon wrote: »
    Awesome!! Love the new alias, was wondering why you havent been uploading any new tracks!

    Because he had to dream it all up again, just like U2. Now he sits around his house wearing fly wraparound shades and goose steps in front of his computer monitors…


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    I've been asked to remix a track from an indie band's upcoming EP, to be released with it. Started throwing ideas together today, a lot of advice needed/wanted. It kind of the vague structure of the track pressed into a minute. Not happy with the drums, but any general advice would be good. What I'm kind of looking for is a big long build-up, and then a huge drop when the unedited vocals come in. Not happening for me yet though.

    Stream:

    http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/7019633/file.html

    Its kind of hard to give any advice at the moment because it's so unstructured. The drums aren't working like you said, the vocal sounds unconnected to the music at the moment. The acid line is really nice and should be great for the build up but a think overall it needs to be a bit more propulsive. Maybe use LCD Soundsystem's 'Yeah' or 'Losing My Edge' as reference points for that kind of acidy indie dance.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    Stab*City wrote: »
    Something ive been working on hope ye like it.. Feedback please good or bad all welcome..

    http://soundcloud.com/carlitobriganti/carlito-briganti-regular-expressions

    Really liked that. Reminds a bit of Albion 'Air' - what a tune. Got that nice dreamy vibe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    I've been asked to remix a track from an indie band's upcoming EP, to be released with it. Started throwing ideas together today, a lot of advice needed/wanted. It kind of the vague structure of the track pressed into a minute. Not happy with the drums, but any general advice would be good. What I'm kind of looking for is a big long build-up, and then a huge drop when the unedited vocals come in. Not happening for me yet though.

    Stream:

    http://www8.zippyshare.com/v/7019633/file.html

    I like the guitar riff. You could probably lose the electric piano.

    The vocal hit - you could probably use it to better effect if you didn't loop it so much. If you just used it sparingly as fill.

    If you're going for the Norman Cook Everybody loves a 303 - listen to it and rip off some of his ideas. He does a lot with sample manipulation.

    Go crazy - make something 20 minutes long with lots of chop ups - reverses - risers - weird kick runs - don't forget your cymbals. Do a KLF and throw in samples of horses and sleigh bells (Christmas is coming) - then cut it down to 4 minutes. If it's for indie dance you can get away with anything - even a 32 bar dubstep break.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Its kind of hard to give any advice at the moment because it's so unstructured. The drums aren't working like you said, the vocal sounds unconnected to the music at the moment. The acid line is really nice and should be great for the build up but a think overall it needs to be a bit more propulsive. Maybe use LCD Soundsystem's 'Yeah' or 'Losing My Edge' as reference points for that kind of acidy indie dance.

    Yeah, the structure is kind of a rough guide of what it'll be, every section will probably be 4 times as long or so.

    The acid line that comes in before the break? Thanks, that's one of the only things I'm happy with. I think after the drop it needs a lead line like that, should I just keep it in after the drop or have a new more driving line?

    I'll have a listen to them, chers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    On a bit of a creative spree recently

    Heres one i did today

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-silverfox-demo-mix

    enjoy!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    On a bit of a creative spree recently

    Heres one i did today

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-silverfox-demo-mix

    enjoy!

    The man is on fire.

    That's a really great track. How about letin' your friends here have a few downloads - just for a few days - no one has to know.

    It's a really good track - if you're on a buzz at the minute make as many as you can - the inspiration may desert you . I love the jazz tom solo. There's also great grooves and melodies in there that could be brought out stronger if you got a chance to release it, and had the impetus to put in the extra work. You're getting closer to having that irresistible killer dancing groove - the one where when they put the record on, people just have to dance - they can not help themselves.

    Just make more tracks for the minute. They're definitely getting much better with each go. Keep going the way you are, and people would be crazy not to release this stuff.


  • Registered Users Posts: 97 ✭✭cloudydsound


    here's a track from a while back, don't think i've put it up here

    http://soundcloud.com/cloudysound/bluez

    kind of a chill out zoned out jobby


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    New track from today and last night, kind of euphoric nu-disco, although I had to tone down the euphoric because it was a bit cheesy. I think it's somewhere near finished, so any advice would be appreciated :)

    http://www42.zippyshare.com/v/72412370/file.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    New track from today and last night, kind of euphoric nu-disco
    er, it sounds like slowed down proggy trance to me. Decent chord progression. Needs more definite melody rather than meandering noodlings.

    Really don't know if that tempo works for the style, or if that style works with that tempo.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    jtsuited wrote: »
    er, it sounds like slowed down proggy trance to me. Decent chord progression. Needs more definite melody rather than meandering noodlings.

    Really don't know if that tempo works for the style, or if that style works with that tempo.

    This is the kind of style I was going for.

    Maybe italo-disco is a more accurate description than nu-disco.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,401 ✭✭✭jtsuited


    This is the kind of style I was going for.

    Maybe italo-disco is a more accurate description than nu-disco.

    dude. I can see that you were aiming for that but it's come out miles away from that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    Another Tech housey track hat i got done today with my mate Rob,

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-rob-mcnamara-wrong-exit-demo-mix

    hope this inspiration doesnt end soon!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    I thought I would combine Minimal with break beats. I didn't put any bass or stabs in and used a distorted kick. It's not polished but I like it.

    http://soundcloud.com/the-noobian-prince/the-noobian-prince-bassless-accusation-140-bpm-minimal-breaks


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Rockshamrover


    krd wrote: »
    I thought I would combine Minimal with break beats. I didn't put any bass or stabs in and used a distorted kick. It's not polished but I like it.

    http://soundcloud.com/the-noobian-prince/the-noobian-prince-bassless-accusation-140-bpm-minimal-breaks

    I really like this track KRD. Really cool.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    Another Tech housey track hat i got done today with my mate Rob,

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-rob-mcnamara-wrong-exit-demo-mix

    hope this inspiration doesnt end soon!

    That's a really great track.

    you have a lot of really great ideas going on there.

    Keep banging them out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 749 ✭✭✭SteveDon


    Been a productive week! 4 tracks done in 4 days, hopefuly get another one tomorrow aswell.

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-factory-blues-demo-mix


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    SteveDon wrote: »
    Been a productive week! 4 tracks done in 4 days, hopefuly get another one tomorrow aswell.

    http://soundcloud.com/steve-donaldson/stephen-donaldson-factory-blues-demo-mix

    An astonishing work rate. You're really getting a serious portfolio of stuff there.

    Keeping going until you run out of ideas.

    Here's some ideas you could try. Try some strings and messing around with thin pads - there's some ideas I have about thin pads that I haven't tried yet. A thin pad you're not meant to notice it's there, but you can play with the tone and the filtering to make it suddenly appear and do things. Also - things like disco strings - disco string flourish can be really great (I have no idea how to do them - there's a track I started last year I'd like to finish when I know how to do the strings a few bits.)

    Keep experiment with variations - I'm learning a lot by watching what you do with stuff.

    Thanks for your comments on my track. I did the track very quickly and my production skills aren't anywhere near yours. I'm still working out the nitty gritty of production. My pieces are still largely workbooks in technique - not really 'here's the track'. And I haven't mastered that much technique yet - I've started a psytrance project - it'll sound like crap but once I get things pinned down I'll get better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,577 ✭✭✭Android 666


    Okay lads, here are some tunes I've been working on over the last while. I've been trying to stick to one kind of style so I've set up a new soundcloud page. It would be great to get some feedback. Cheers.

    http://soundcloud.com/four-bear


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 Theprodigy11


    heres one im working on .. not finished but u get the idea

    http://soundcloud.com/cassidyjarred/working


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  • Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭synesthesia


    Cool beat - time for a bassline :)


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