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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Nah Dumble and Phic I think you guys did it wrong.

    It was just a surds mistake...


    If it had been

    2routex^2 you would have been right...

    but it was (2routex)^2

    Which due to the wonder of BEMDAS, is different.

    Oh right its pretty easy to prove

    Sure your answers need to work with pythag and 30^2 + 15^2 =/= 45^2


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    I went in today not knowing what to expect, because I dropped down quite suddenly near the end of the year.Had no OL notes to go over...

    I hadn't a clue about a lot of it, but I gave it all a go and it went suspiciously alright...


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Lucet


    I think it was a lovely paper! I need to get at least B3 to get into the course I want. If the paper two will be as nice as this I will get it easily :).
    I did questions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and started Q6, but I was short on time. I was stuck on some questions like Q2 B part iii :( .


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Lucet wrote: »
    I think it was a lovely paper! I need to get at least B3 to get into the course I want. If the paper two will be as nice as this I will get it easily :).
    I did questions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and started Q6, but I was short on time. I was stuck on some questions like Q2 B part iii :( .


    It was tricky. What you did was took the original value and divided by 100 to get 1%. Then divided the difference by that to get percentage per annum


  • Registered Users Posts: 132 ✭✭Bongomc


    For the Q.3 part C i got : the area of a triangle : (half base by height) with a base of (square root 45) and the height (square root (45 divded by 2)) so that gave me 11.25cm so there was 2 of them so 22.5cm squared.

    Probably wrong but i'm not too bothered coz the rest of the paper was grand.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Lucet


    errlloyd wrote: »
    It was tricky. What you did was took the original value and divided by 100 to get 1%. Then divided the difference by that to get percentage per annum

    Quee? What are you talking about? I'm talking about 27x X 3^x = 1/729 . Or did you mixed up something? :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Nah Dumble and Phic I think you guys did it wrong.

    It was just a surds mistake...


    If it had been

    2routex^2 you would have been right...

    but it was (2routex)^2

    Which due to the wonder of BEMDAS, is different.

    Oh right its pretty easy to prove

    Sure your answers need to work with pythag and 30^2 + 15^2 =/= 45^2

    Um ok? Someone tried to explain this to me earlier, didn't understand then either! meh doesn't matter I'm not using maths for points anyway, only had to pass.


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭MissRealist


    All you do is change the sign. In this case it was a plus, not a minus. Numbers stay the same, only the sign.

    Nuh-uh. That's a formula. You square the two numbers given in the question (Leaving out the i) then add them together and get the square root of that. Answer was 5 if I remember correctly.

    Can anybody tell me how you multiply square roots? Completely blanked on that...:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Lucet wrote: »
    Quee? What are you talking about? I'm talking about 27x X 3^x = 1/729 . Or did you mixed up something? :)


    Oh sorry.

    This is indices. Ok so the rules are pretty clear, when multiplying indices ad the powers and do it. So for example, 2^3 x 2^2 = 2^5 = 32

    So we had 3^3 x 3^x = 1/729...

    We knew 3^6 was 729...

    Which means 3^-6 was 1/729

    Which means we needed to to take 3 from that power to get the power required for the question..

    Hence 3^-9


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,612 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Nuh-uh. That's a formula. You square the two numbers given in the question (Leaving out the i) then add them together and get the square root of that. Answer was 5 if I remember correctly.

    Can anybody tell me how you multiply square roots? Completely blanked on that...:confused:


    Add the powers !!

    Remember for square roots (route not sure lol) the power is 1/2


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  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭MissRealist


    Lucet wrote: »
    I think it was a lovely paper! I need to get at least B3 to get into the course I want. If the paper two will be as nice as this I will get it easily :).
    I did questions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and started Q6, but I was short on time. I was stuck on some questions like Q2 B part iii :( .

    B(iii) was a pain in the butt! You needed to change the 27 to 3^3 and the 729 to 3^6 and then play with the indecies


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭MissRealist


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Add the powers !!

    Remember for square roots (route not sure lol) the power is 1/2

    Thanks! I think I actually got it right!! lol!!

    Sheer luck. Remembered something about halves and changed the that. You've just made me a whole pile happier! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 423 ✭✭MrPirate


    That paper was awesomely easy! Except Q.4. I came from honours last year and when they covered it in my pass class they were "going over it" so I never got into it.. :/
    But anyway, got it all done really bar Q. 4! I drew the examiner a smiley elephant near the end too. ^^


  • Registered Users Posts: 175 ✭✭Lucet


    B(iii) was a pain in the butt! You needed to change the 27 to 3^3 and the 729 to 3^6 and then play with the indecies

    It was a huge pain in the butt I'd tell :D. I was thinking of indices, but that 1/729 just messed me up. Well, I hope I'll get at least attempt mark in that question :rolleyes:. On Sunday I'll do several past papers, because I suck at equations of a line/circle and Q11 is horrible for me. Maybe I'll try vectors instead :cool:.


  • Registered Users Posts: 342 ✭✭phic


    errlloyd wrote: »
    Oh sorry.

    This is indices. Ok so the rules are pretty clear, when multiplying indices ad the powers and do it. So for example, 2^3 x 2^2 = 2^5 = 32

    So we had 3^3 x 3^x = 1/729...

    We knew 3^6 was 729...

    Which means 3^-6 was 1/729

    Which means we needed to to take 3 from that power to get the power required for the question..

    Hence 3^-9

    3^-9 isn't the answer though, you had to solve for x...


  • Registered Users Posts: 282 ✭✭manutd4life


    i found it easy.although some of them gave me problems


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Homicidal_jesus


    i found it easy.although some of them gave me problems

    ya same 4 me first 4 questions where fine and did fairly good in other 4 had plenty of time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007


    Soooooo easy!!! I had all the q's answered in an hour!!!:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Claypigeon


    Got the Parts A and B of 6 questions done quite well and the odd C from each, and attempted the remaining two in case. Although I did quite poorly in those two. Should be fine. Not that worried about maths as it isn't needed for my course.
    phic wrote: »
    3^-9 isn't the answer though, you had to solve for x...

    Whaaa?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 mosis11


    heyguys sorry for the inconvienience but would someone tell me if i passec paper 1 if i put the qs i got right up??
    Q1....b (i) b (ii) b(iii) c(i)
    Q4...a b(i) b(ii) c(i)
    Q5...a b(i) b(ii)
    q7...a b(I) b(II)
    q8...a

    paper 1 not strong 4 me but hoping for 20o + points on paper 2
    so wat u think thanks good luck in the exams
    oh and i was close with other qs so attempt marks aswell


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  • Registered Users Posts: 484 ✭✭happydayz182


    for the indices if you just worke out on you calculator that it was -9 what do you get??


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Yeah I got -9 for the X in indices too :D I checked it in the original solution and it worked :P

    I thought the paper was fantastic :D Yay pass maths! :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 553 ✭✭✭Futurism


    I thought that writing x = -9 was full marks?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭ThatWouldBeNice


    for the indices if you just worke out on you calculator that it was -9 what do you get??

    Should just get full marks, that's what I did - it didn't say ''without the use of a calco" or anything. :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭ThatWouldBeNice


    Mr.S wrote: »
    It does say "all workings must be shown" though, or something along thoes lines.

    God, I forgot about that :confused: I maybe showed a bit of working out, hope it'll do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 c_92


    By the way, anyone tell me what it means why it says solve |z| in complex numbers?

    Find the modulus of it. square root of a squared plus b squared


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Claypigeon


    Ah I get what people mean.

    The answer is not 3^-9.

    The answer is x = -9.

    Because it was asked in the form find x so that x = blah blah and x was the number that was 3^x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 kevwall


    well i thought it was handy enough, thought art c ii, on q1 was a bitch, never saw it before!
    :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Claypigeon


    kevwall wrote: »
    well i thought it was handy enough, thought art c ii, on q1 was a bitch, never saw it before!
    :eek:

    What type was that now? I can't remember it myself? Refresh me!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Isaac702


    Well I dropped down to ordinary about a month back in the interest of my other subjects. I can say it was a good idea.

    The paper was easy enough although some things took me a minute of reading over them. I would be surprised if I didn't get an A1 on this paper.


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