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WSOP 2009 thread [Spoilers only in here please]
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Lads you really are that bitter he knocked P.I. out? he had 3 bad hands to note, maybe he was trying to make a play when he didnt need to, maybe he thought he'd have to mix it up to throw his opponents off course...failed miserably.He said it himself if it came down to playing poker he wouldnt have a chance so fair play to him giving it a shot... but hey...I dont see you at the F.T.
78% of those polled thought Ivey'd win...says it all really. :rolleyes:0 -
Lads you really are that bitter he knocked P.I. out? he had 3 bad hands to note, maybe he was trying to make a play when he didnt need to, maybe he thought he'd have to mix it up to throw his opponents off course...failed miserably.He said it himself if it came down to playing poker he wouldnt have a chance so fair play to him giving it a shot... but hey...I dont see you at the F.T.
78% of those polled thought Ivey'd win...says it all really. :rolleyes:
Do you expect us not to comment on the lack of quality he has shown? By all accounts he got his stack before the FT by being a card rack, and he has played very weirdly getting into horrible spots a lot at the FT. No one is villifying him for the call that knocked Ivey out.
What sort of place would any poker forum be if people just said fair play, well done without commenting on the hands?0 -
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I watched a good bit of this - or listened..whatever. Comparing Moons play to cada's is ridiculous. Was asleep for the hand aginst Schulman JJ so dont know how the action went down. The 22 v QQ was v Saout blind v blind and i thought reasonably standard as they were both playing fairly aggro - shame they didn't get hu tbh. The AK v 88 hand he called a shove with AK 3 handed.
for sure he won 2 key pots when miles behind, a flip v ivey and a flip v saout to get hu. But moon did things that were beyond dumb at times
Wasn't comparing Moons play v Cada, was simply stating that Cada had his fair share (and more) of luck.
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Wasn't comparing Moons play v Cada, was simply stating that Cada had his fair share (and more) of luck.
In fairness everyone was ul at that table except the two that got hu and i suppose aikenhead who never really got going. I think Ivey,Schaffel,Begleiter,Buchman,Saout and Schulman all lost big pots when they were big fav0 -
whats your point. U defend moon then two posts later you come on bashing his play.:pac: I dont see you at the FT either
There's obviously a reason why I aint there...
Never entered :pac:maybe he was trying to make a play when he didnt need to, maybe he thought he'd have to mix it up to throw his opponents off course...failed miserably.
Not exactly a full on defend there is it.. :rolleyes:
I'll admit I misread the text on the A4 hand so my bad. Thanks for the verification. He didnt see to mind spashing chips left right and center...unlike Phil, so for action he was great.. thought Buchman would win it myself, had a great chip stack and seemed fairly solid. ye Moon outdrew him to knock him out but hand played itself. Let me guess...you lost a few loots backing Ivey...:p0 -
lol guess again. Even i'm aware that 5-1 on a guy with 5% of chips in play is not a clever bet. So i'll ask again what is the all that 78% of people polled thought ivey would win says? You seemed to use that to sum up your post or something
I'm not certain of the hand v begleiter but I think it was another huge 3b ship for about 40bbs v an utg raise. Hand did not play itself
edit : sorry you are on about the hand v buchmann when moon raised and snap called a shove with KJs. I dont think that one played itself either0 -
It some justification for the Moon haters, Ivey winning would have been brilliant for poker and the main event, it didnt happen unfortunately but dont begrudge the man that bust him.lol guess again. Even i'm aware that 5-1 on a guy with 5% of chips in play is not a clever bet. So i'll ask again what is the all that 78% of people polled thought ivey would win says? You seemed to use that to sum up your post or somethingI'm not certain of the hand v begleiter but I think it was another huge 3b ship for about 40bbs v an utg raise. Hand did not play itself
edit : sorry you are on about the hand v buchmann when moon raised and snap called a shove with KJs. I dont think that one played itself either
No im lost, im talking about the Moon Ivey AQ vs AK
Are you on about Moon AQ vs Begleiter QQ?
As much as I hate that call...and AQ for that matter, you maybe have to consider Moon state of mind, was he card dead for a while or just riding the wave good boards that got him to the FT. Didnt like that play tbh.0 -
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. thought Buchman would win it myself, had a great chip stack and seemed fairly solid. ye Moon outdrew him to knock him out but hand played itself... are you not on about Moon busting Buchman here?
I don't know where your're getting that I'm a moon hater or am angry with him for busting ivey. Hand was super standard - identical pretty much to eastgate busting Chino reem last year.
I think nearly every other hand he played was terrible but the ivey hand was standard. As for his state of mind etc i did allude to that a few posts back when i mentioned about them playing for 18hrs+ but you seem to have ignored that and picked up instead that I hate him for busting ivey because I lost money on ivey getting eliminated.0 -
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are you not on about Moon busting Buchman here?
I don't know where your're getting that I'm a moon hater or am angry with him for busting ivey. Hand was super standard - identical pretty much to eastgate busting Chino reem last year.
I think nearly every other hand he played was terrible but the ivey hand was standard. As for his state of mind etc i did allude to that a few posts back when i mentioned about them playing for 18hrs+ but you seem to have ignored that and picked up instead that I hate him for busting ivey because I lost money on ivey getting eliminated.
Sorry never read that. My 1st comment was a general statement and not directed at anyone. No I was referring to the AQ AK Ivey bust hand that played itself, not the AQ QQ or the Buchman KJ bust, although in that one im sure Moon felt that he had a good chance busting a serious threat with a marginal call there. Sorry the wording is confusing..it's late..:(0 -
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