If you don't vote today people!

TheInquisitor

Don't bother complaining about anything that goes wrong in the future. There's a friend of the family who always complains about the government so i always ask did she vote, which shuts her up because she never does. Vote or shut up complaining about things!

Orion

I agree completely. If you don't vote you lose the right to complain about the outcome.

Zuiderzee

in Galway station, heading back to Connemara to vote - travelled from Rotterdam in Holland to do this....

Please vote, and as Eddie Vedder from Pearl Jam said - if you dont - let them put that on your f-ing headstone

Raiser

Please vote - you may be too tired after work and start making up sh|t excuses not to - but be assured that the small-minded, closed-minded, religious-fundamental-nutjobs, Fianna Fail Failures and other undesirables will have been at the Polling Station since the crack of dawn to make their idiotic and stilted choices become your daily reality and misfortune !!!!!

- Democracy is too important a thing to just be left to the electorate

MysticalSoul

Just back from my polling station, and only 30% turnout :eek:. I would have thought it would have much higher, for a change.

TheInquisitor

Its meant to have been slighty higher than the 59 % last time. At that i say SLIGHTLY! Oh well thats 40% anyway that cant complain. They'll be bored ****less!

MysticalSoul

MysticalSoul wrote: »

Just back from my polling station, and only 30% turnout :eek:. I would have thought it would have much higher, for a change.

bout 275 of 750 had voted at around half 7 when I went in.


edit: In whitehall.

cooker3

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Don't bother complaining about anything that goes wrong in the future. There's a friend of the family who always complains about the government so i always ask did she vote, which shuts her up because she never does. Vote or shut up complaining about things!

No

P. Breathnach

Macros42 wrote: »

I agree completely. If you don't vote you lose the right to complain about the outcome.

No, you don't. But I think that people should give less weight to your complaints.

[What about people who voted the wrong way?]

TheInquisitor

P. Breathnach wrote: »

No, you don't. But I think that people should give less weight to your complaints.

[What about people who voted the wrong way?]

Everyone makes mistakes!

phantom_lord

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Vote or shut up complaining about things!

if my only choice is between inept gob****e a, and inept gob****e b, and i decide to abstain i still think i'm quite entitled to complain. there's no one that i feel deserves my vote.

Taxipete29

People who complain about no decent candidates rarely take enough interest in the political process. If they got involved maybe they could take part in the candidate selection process.

Nobody listens to people who only talk about problems without presenting any solutions.

DeVore

I'm not clear how the right to vote and the right to freedom of expression are linked....

DeV.

ronkmonster

TheInquisitor wrote: »

Don't bother complaining about anything that goes wrong in the future. There's a friend of the family who always complains about the government so i always ask did she vote, which shuts her up because she never does. Vote or shut up complaining about things!

right. cause my concerns don't matter cause i didn't want to make a 4 hour round trip to vote to punish FF. i have no interest in local elections.

Taxipete29

DeVore wrote: »

I'm not clear how the right to vote and the right to freedom of expression are linked....

DeV.

The right to vote is a freedom of expression and a pretty important one. It offers individuals a say in how the country is run.

I have no problem with people who dont wish to vote, its their choice and democracy wouldnt work if we forced people to vote.

We are all afforded the right to complain if we wish, but it achieves nothing if you dont back it up with actions.

jhegarty

Lets try it a different way.

If you don't vote you are free to complain , but I am free not to listen to you.

TheInquisitor

ronkmonster wrote: »

right. cause my concerns don't matter cause i didn't want to make a 4 hour round trip to vote to punish FF. i have no interest in local elections.

I drove 9 hours from the south of england(dorchester specifically) to be here for the vote. There was a person further up in the thread that came from Rotterdam. Your 4 hours is pitiless!

ronkmonster

not much of an action if it's just a vote to punish the government.
maybe a FF candidate in a council was the best choice but people voted against him/her because of the central government incompetencies.

phantom_lord

jhegarty wrote: »

If you don't vote you are free to complain , but I am free not to listen to you.

why?

ronkmonster

ronkmonster wrote: »

i have no interest in local elections.

TheInquisitor wrote: »

I drove 9 hours from the south of england(dorchester specifically) to be here for the vote. There was a person further up in the thread that came from Rotterdam. Your 4 hours is pitiless!

(assuming)why vote for local elections (or even dail elections) if you don't live here?

shall i just blame the people who voted today when nothing improves rather than the government since i have no say

TheInquisitor

ronkmonster wrote: »

(assuming)why vote for local elections (or even dail elections) if you don't live here?

shall i just blame the people who voted today when nothing improves rather than the government since i have no say

I never said i wasn't living here. I was over in england working and came home early to vote.

Sure your parents voted with you in mind. Blame them

ronkmonster

TheInquisitor wrote: »

I never said i wasn't living here. I was over in england working and came home early to vote.

Sure your parents voted with you in mind. Blame them

hence the assuming in previous post.

my parents vote for their own agenda. not mine.

my main reason for not voting is because i didn't know the candidates since i don't live there anymore - and i don't vote for parties.

Rb

Personally have no interest in talking about politics (international, national or local) with someone who hasn't been arsed researching those running properly or being too lazy to get out and go to the polls.

If you're unhappy with how things are in your local area, or the country or how we're represented in the EU and are given a chance to change it, and decide not to, then you should keep your mouth shut afterwards, simple as.

Funnily enough if we decided to bring in a system whereby those who continually pass on their votes are no longer entitled to one, I bet they'd be out in their hoardes at the polls.

Low turnouts are quite typical of us Irish though, all talk and no action and that is why our country is where it is today.

TheInquisitor

ronkmonster wrote: »

hence the assuming in previous post.

my parents vote for their own agenda. not mine.

my main reason for not voting is because i didn't know the candidates since i don't live there anymore - and i don't vote for parties.

Ha change your residency, you'd swear you had mountains to climb to be able to vote. You have no excuse

phantom_lord

Rb wrote: »

If you're unhappy with how things are in your local area, or the country or how we're represented in the EU and are given a chance to change it.

my point was that i haven't been given that chance.

amacachi

Everyone should vote, even people who don't know anything about politics and are just voting randomly. That's proper democracy.

TheInquisitor

phantom_lord wrote: »

my point was that i haven't been given that chance.

If your not happy with the current selection of canditates but want your voice heard then run yourself. There's always another option.

heyjude

ronkmonster wrote: »

not much of an action if it's just a vote to punish the government.
maybe a FF candidate in a council was the best choice but people voted against him/her because of the central government incompetencies.

Fair enough, but I'm pretty sure that at the last local elections, every Fianna Fail candidate in the country was crowing about the success that Fianna Fail had brought to the country, the Celtic Tiger etc and seeking to take advantage of this success to gather votes at a local level. So if it was okay then for local Fianna Fail politicians to claim credit for national economic success they attribute to the Fianna Fail led government during the boom, then surely when a Fianna Fail led government leads us into the worst economic mess since the 1930's, it is reasonable enough for the voter to punish these self same representatives of the main party in government. It stands to reason that if you claim credit for the boom, you'll get blamed for the bust.

HAPPYGIRL

phantom_lord wrote: »

if my only choice is between inept gob****e a, and inept gob****e b, and i decide to abstain i still think i'm quite entitled to complain. there's no one that i feel deserves my vote.

No you are not entitled to complain. What you should do in those circumstances is get informed, examine their policies and priorities and decide who is the lesser gob****e. Then vote for them and keep the bigger gob****e out hopefully.

ninty9er

TheInquisitor wrote: »

I drove 9 hours from the south of england(dorchester specifically) to be here for the vote. There was a person further up in the thread that came from Rotterdam. Your 4 hours is pitiless!

I think you meant pitiful Bobby and if the people here got the text about your voting intentions that I got you would't be a popular person.

Whoever said the FF vote would be out in force and making an effort wasn't far wrong;)

TheInquisitor

ninty9er wrote: »

I think you meant pitiful Bobby and if the people here got the text about your voting intentions that I got you would't be a popular person.

Whoever said the FF vote would be out in force and making an effort wasn't far wrong;)

Ninty9er i doubt you were very popular over the last week knocking on peoples doors!! I'm a closet one...you openly wear the t-shirt!