Bishop and/or Walcott - key quotes for use in any answer

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GA361

''And this old Lady writes and again I believe,I believe it all,
and for no man's death I grieve''
-A.L.F.B Walcott

''Your father was an honest,dutiful,faithful and usefell person''
-A.L.F.B

''She sits there smiling that cancer kills everything but Love''
T.Y.W

Bishop
"ESSO-SO-SO-SO" SO WHAT!

"Somebody Loves us all"

Walcott
"Filament"

"Spiders Web"

"Ooos' at / the changing shapes of love”

kevogy

some poet longly i think


fcuk the pope

Yeah I think that was in Wounds....

it is...

heres the full quote.

“Going over the top with ‘**** the Pope!’, ‘No surrender!’: a boy about to die, screaming ‘Give ‘em one for the Shankill!’”

Gi joe!

bishop-'i felt i have always lived my life like the sandpiper'-searching for something

longley-'i would like to be remembered as a sexengenerian(sp) love poet'

even though most of your poetry is about war nd your father:)

-Kenny-

Walcott.

In the theme of endings:

Poem: Endings
Quote: 'We are left with a silence that surrounds Beathovans head'

Poem: For Adrian
Quote: 'I have now entered a wisdom'
'I am not young now, nor old'
'I am wiser, I share the secret that is only a silence'

Poem: The Young Wife
Quote: 'That cancer kils everything but love'

In the theme of Identity:

Poem: From Omeros
Quote: 'The bird whose wings wrote Afolabe'
'White slaves to a black king'

Poem: The Sailor Sings Back To Casuarinas
Quote: 'I Have Dutch, N*gger and Englist in me, And either im nobody or am a nation' (The star is incase people think im racist)
'Those cypresses....are not real cypresses but Casuarinas'
'We live like our names'

sock puppet

Gi joe! wrote: »

bishop-'i felt i have always lived my life like the sandpiper'-searching for something

longley-'i would like to be remembered as a sexengenerian(sp) love poet'

even though most of your poetry is about war nd your father:)

I wrote "most of someone's poetry is...." in an essay and my teacher picked up on it and said we only studied a small selection. Just a warning if you were planning on saying it in an exam. Dunno if the examiner would care.

Claypigeon

-Kenny- wrote: »

Walcott.

In the theme of endings:

Poem: Endings
Quote: 'We are left with a silence that surrounds Beathovans head'

Poem: For Adrian
Quote: 'I have now entered a wisdom'
'I am not young now, nor old'
'I am wiser, I share the secret that is only a silence'

Poem: The Young Wife
Quote: 'That cancer kils everything but love'

In the theme of Identity:

Poem: From Omeros
Quote: 'The bird whose wings wrote Afolabe'
'White slaves to a black king'

Poem: The Sailor Sings Back To Casuarinas
Quote: 'I Have Dutch, N*gger and Englist in me, And either im nobody or am a nation' (The star is incase people think im racist)
'Those cypresses....are not real cypresses but Casuarinas'
'We live like our names'

Great post!

-Kenny-

Claypigeon wrote: »

Great post!

Took me fecking ages

jefreywithonef

Who is more happy, when, with heart's content
Fatigued he sinks into some pleasant lair
Of wavy grass and reads a debonair
And gentle tale of love and languishment?

ya-ba-da-ba-doo

Walcott.
"the strenght of one frail hand"
"my body once cupped yours"
"when a line on a page is loved, and its hard to turn."
"the days run through the light's fingers like dust or a child's in a sandpit."

Finical

Bishop from The Fish ''Like medals with their ribbons/frayed and wavering''

piggies

Walcott.

1. Religion/Faith

A Letter From Brooklyn
- the strength of one frail hand in a dim room
- restores my sacred duty to the word
- i believe it all and for no man's death i grieve

St. Lucia's First Communion
- walcott sees them as victims of an institutionalised religion
- thousands of innocents arranged on church steps
- stiff plaits (controlled image)
- before it came on like their blinded saints
- ending of poem has positive religious perspective as Walcott imagines
the children moving 'heavenward' beyone the 'evil' and 'prejudice'

2. Colonialism/Caribben Heritage

The Sailor Sings Back To The Casuarinas
- the pain of history words contain
- if we live like the name out masters please, by careful mimicry we might
become men.

The rest of my quotes are all wound into my essay so it'd take me hours to put them up! hope this helps, walcott's fairly easy!

Claypigeon

piggies wrote: »

Walcott.

1. Religion/Faith

A Letter From Brooklyn
- the strength of one frail hand in a dim room
- restores my sacred duty to the word
- i believe it all and for no man's death i grieve

St. Lucia's First Communion
- walcott sees them as victims of an institutionalised religion
- thousands of innocents arranged on church steps
- stiff plaits (controlled image)
- before it came on like their blinded saints
- ending of poem has positive religious perspective as Walcott imagines
the children moving 'heavenward' beyone the 'evil' and 'prejudice'

2. Colonialism/Caribben Heritage

The Sailor Sings Back To The Casuarinas
- the pain of history words contain
- if we live like the name out masters please, by careful mimicry we might
become men.

The rest of my quotes are all wound into my essay so it'd take me hours to put them up! hope this helps, walcott's fairly easy!

Good stuff, lots of key points and reminders for ideas for answers in there too, thanks very much, well presented

carefulnow99

i asked on another thread so sorry to repost but im seriously stuck i need help and im doin ordianry english

ok so i pretty much kinda missed alot of english durin da year but i know the poems but i cant learn all the notes off for them all tonight
can anyone please help me with shortening my work load?
was there any hints given?
we studied the crucible only for the single text so thats gaurenteed to come up right??

so please any hints you can give me or help in general would be greatly appriciated

OxfordComma

Ok... I think I learnt way too many quotes!!

Here's how many I have from Summer Elegies alone:

Cynthia, the things we did as the unhooked halter slithered from sunburnt shoulders!

Trembling I unfixed it and two white quarter moons unpeeled there like a frisket, and burnt for afternoons.

We made one shape in the water

Gurgled astonished "ooh"s

Time lent us the whole island, now heat and image fade like foam lace, like the tan on a striped shoulder blade

From each sunstruck day I peeled the papery tissue of my dead flesh away

A halcyon day. No sail. The sky like a cigarette paper smoothed by a red thumbnail and creased to a small square.

The snake hangs its old question on almond or apple tree:
I had her breast to rest on, the rest is History.



And there's four other poems too, and I've studied Bishop and Keats too!

piggies

no problem! hope him or longley comes up! Keats......meh i could write an answer but dont like him!

if you're doing Walcott and using the two themes of religion and heritage, the poem Pentecost can be used as a link between the two..

- the name of the poem has religious connotations and there are
references to the 'holy ghost' in the poem itself.
- Walcott portrays his dislike of the city, bound in 'rootless concrete'
- He imagines his soul finding itself in 'slow scriptures of sand' on a beach
in the Caribbean.
- In Pentecost Walcott merges the two themes of his spirituality and his
Carribbean heritage.

ImJohn

"entered into a wisdom, not a silence"

"things do not explode/, they fail they fade"

"the sunlight fades from the flesh/ as the foam drains quick in the sand"

"Look, and you will see that the furniture is fading/ that a wardrobe is as unsubstantial as a sunset"

"/gurgeled astonished Ooos"

"changing shapes of love"

"the beach chairs are full/ but the beach is empty"

"her unhooked halter slithered/ from sunburnt shoulders"

"a coffee mug warming his palms/ as my body once cupped yours"

"loves lightening flash/ has no thunderous end"

Walcott owns, he better come up.

Claypigeon

ImJohn wrote: »

"entered into a wisdom, not a silence"

"things do not explode/, they fail they fade"

"the sunlight fades from the flesh/ as the foam drains quick in the sand"

"Look, and you will see that the furniture is fading/ that a wardrobe is as unsubstantial as a sunset"

"/gurgeled astonished Ooos"

"changing shapes of love"

"the beach chairs are full/ but the beach is empty"

"her unhooked halter slithered/ from sunburnt shoulders"

"a coffee mug warming his palms/ as my body once cupped yours"

"loves lightening flash/ has no thunderous end"

Walcott owns, he better come up.

Valuable bits there, cheers

carefulnow99

i do ordinary level

but we didnt do keats am i in bother??
or am i safe with learning walcott, bishop,longly and montague??

and is it safe in saying that since mahon and rich came up last year in prescribed poetry that they wont come up this year??
# please reply

Claypigeon

carefulnow99 wrote: »

i do ordinary level

but we didnt do keats am i in bother??
or am i safe with learning walcott, bishop,longly and montague??

and is it safe in saying that since mahon and rich came up last year in prescribed poetry that they wont come up this year??
# please reply

If you even looked momentarily at the layout of your paper you'd know 4 poets come up, studying 4 means you'll get SOMETHING... How your problem fits into a thread looking for Bishop and Walcott advice doesn't strike me as clear

imfreein09

is chanching just bishop for 2mo dodge? a big risk?

ImJohn

Do walcott, montague you'll be safe.

carefulnow99

i am sorry for posting on this page but i needed help and i posted on other thread but got no reply
i have looked at the paper and i do know 4 poets come up but the course i do is prescribed poetry section 2 so going by last years poets choosen form section 2 they were mahon and rich so i was just wondering

oncce again i am sorry for posting here
b.t.w best a luck in the morning

imfreein09

as well as bishop? see cant member mont did him with dif teacher last yr n our teach this yr did long,, but i dont know walcot at all.. of im fcuked!!!!!!!!!!1

poisonated

Here are some.It is a little practice


the fish:
"his brown skin hung in strips like ancient wallpaper"

"infested with tiny white sea lice"

"until everything was rainbow rainbow rainbow and I let the fish go"

filling station:
"esso-so-so-so"

"oh but it is dirty"

"this little filling station"

"a dirty dog,quite comfy"


the prodigal

"the sty was plastered halfway up with glass smooth dung"

"but evenings the first star came to warn"

"he felt the bats uncertain staggering flight"

"the pigs stuck out their little feet and snored"


first death in Nova Scotia

"a stuffed loon shot and stuffed by uncle Arthur,Arthurs father"

"Arthurs coffin was a little frosted cake"

"they invited Arthur to be the smallest page at court"

---

wounds:
"I touched his hand his thin head I touched"

"I am dying for king and country slowly"

"a shivering boy who wandered in... to the children to a bewildered wife I think sorry missus was what he said"

"going over the top with **** the pope"

wreaths:
"he was preparing an Ulster fry for breakfast when someone walked into the kitchen and shot him"

"a bullet entered his mouth and pierced his skull"

"the books he had read,the music he could play"

"later his widow took a hammer and chisel and removed the black keys from his piano"

"serving even the death dealers"

last requests:
"I though you blew a kiss before you died"

"bony fingers that waved to and fro"

"I who braught peppermints and grapes only couldnt reach you through the oxygen tent"

woodbines

leartes:
"it pleased them both to stare at each others beauty as lovers might"

"I get down on my knees and do what must be done and kiss Achilles hand the killer of my son"